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wondering since every big fav that wins easily covers it regardless if they are only up 1 late or down in the game.. just look at mariners angels oakland cardinals every day same thing wonder how buried books are from the -1.5 RL gift value
Cappinpicks
SBR Posting Legend
03-11-10
14986
#2
JJgold says he dont trust -1.5 yet it always wins.. LOL talk about bad luck if he lost with it
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Nitronett
SBR High Roller
06-11-14
116
#3
You're starting to think...
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Cappinpicks
SBR Posting Legend
03-11-10
14986
#4
Originally posted by Nitronett
You're starting to think...
I guess its just a sucker bet to new morons that haven't bet before? kinda of weird
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Nitronett
SBR High Roller
06-11-14
116
#5
Originally posted by Cappinpicks
I guess its just a sucker bet to new morons that haven't bet before? kinda of weird
I post my picks on here and I take many run lines. Just depends on value. Check me out . New to this site 17-9 record. Hit a lot of RL/dog bets
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Cappinpicks
SBR Posting Legend
03-11-10
14986
#6
Originally posted by Nitronett
I post my picks on here and I take many run lines. Just depends on value. Check me out . New to this site 17-9 record. Hit a lot of RL/dog bets
yea but -1.5 RL right? i mean +1.5 is a waste of money x2 since juice
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brodie
SBR MVP
11-25-13
2212
#7
well if they're gonna win by 1 then they should win by 2 right??? i was on cards 1.5 last night and my boy matty adams hit the 2run walkoff for the win
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posey
SBR MVP
05-23-14
1112
#8
Originally posted by brodie
well if they're gonna win by 1 then they should win by 2 right??? i was on cards 1.5 last night and my boy matty adams hit the 2run walkoff for the win
2014:
- 1336 games
- RL covered: 1124
- RL not covered: 210
- 210/1336 games with 1 run differential = 16%
2013:
- 2430 games
- RL covered: 1992
- RL not covered: 430
- 430/2430 games with 1 run differential = 18%
2012:
- 2430 games
- RL covered: 2055
- RL not covered: 368
- 368/2430 games with 1 run differential = 15%
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Cappinpicks
SBR Posting Legend
03-11-10
14986
#9
Originally posted by posey
2014:
- 1336 games
- RL covered: 1124
- RL not covered: 210
- 210/1336 games with 1 run differential = 16%
2013:
- 2430 games
- RL covered: 1992
- RL not covered: 430
- 430/2430 games with 1 run differential = 18%
2012:
- 2430 games
- RL covered: 2055
- RL not covered: 368
- 368/2430 games with 1 run differential = 15%
wow that seems high for this yr, maybe that factors in dogs -1.5?
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posey
SBR MVP
05-23-14
1112
#10
May be so, I'll post a few more results in a few minutes. I did only some basic queries.
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Nitronett
SBR High Roller
06-11-14
116
#11
Never do +1.5 I think it's one of the dumbest bets in mlb..
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posey
SBR MVP
05-23-14
1112
#12
I agree. I don't like this type of bet either.
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asdf21
SBR High Roller
06-21-14
173
#13
Posey, you seem to have access to a huge database. These numbers are interesting. I understand the OP's thoughts, the tradeoff in terms of juice seems to be not worth it. But mind you, there's a huge difference between winning or losing a bet. Sounds simple, but that's all there is to it. Same reason why it kills you on the long run if you lose half a point on a total bet because you didn't catch the early lines.
I'd love to know the difference on my total bankroll if I took the +1.5 for every -1.5 played so far. Maybe someone who's keeping track of his bets posts his results here.
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BigDofBA
SBR Posting Legend
09-30-09
19313
#14
Originally posted by Nitronett
Never do +1.5 I think it's one of the dumbest bets in mlb..
I think it depends on the juice.
I wouldn't take +1.5 at -160 but if it was like -110 or even money and I thought the team had a chance to win straight up I might take it.
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Cappinpicks
SBR Posting Legend
03-11-10
14986
#15
yea i might get it at -110 but seems so easy for angels/whoever to blow them out in 1 inning
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posey
SBR MVP
05-23-14
1112
#16
I don't know why the numbers are a little bit screwed, but that's what killersports gave me. Maybe it's because in some games both teams are at equal odds. Forget the numbers from above, use those!
2012:
- 977 wins by dogs
- 311 wins by dogs by 1 run (.318)
- 667 wins by dogs by at least 2 runs (.682)
- 1375 wins by favs
- 360 wins by favs by 1 run (.262)
- 1015 wins by favs by at least 2 runs (.738)
2013:
- 983 wins by dogs
- 304 wins by dogs by 1 run (.309)
- 679 wins by dogs by at least 2 runs (.691)
- 1368 wins by favs
- 419 wins by favs by 1 run (.306)
- 949 wins by favs by at least 2 runs (.694)
2014:
- 566 wins by dogs
- 178 wins by dogs by 1 run (.314)
- 388 wins by dogs by at least 2 runs (.686)
- 704 wins by favs
- 200 wins by favs by 1 run (.284)
- 504 wins by favs by at least 2 runs (.716)
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EXhoosier10
SBR MVP
07-06-09
3122
#17
Originally posted by posey
I don't know why the numbers are a little bit screwed, but that's what killersports gave me. Maybe it's because in some games both teams are at equal odds. Forget the numbers from above, use those!
2012:
- 977 wins by dogs
- 311 wins by dogs by 1 run (.318)
- 667 wins by dogs by at least 2 runs (.682)
- 1375 wins by favs
- 360 wins by favs by 1 run (.262)
- 1015 wins by favs by at least 2 runs (.738)
2013:
- 983 wins by dogs
- 304 wins by dogs by 1 run (.309)
- 679 wins by dogs by at least 2 runs (.691)
- 1368 wins by favs
- 419 wins by favs by 1 run (.306)
- 949 wins by favs by at least 2 runs (.694)
2014:
- 566 wins by dogs
- 178 wins by dogs by 1 run (.314)
- 388 wins by dogs by at least 2 runs (.686)
- 704 wins by favs
- 200 wins by favs by 1 run (.284)
- 504 wins by favs by at least 2 runs (.716)
so 2012, dogs taken on the +1.5 RL won 977 + 360 = 1337 times. There were 977 + 1375 = 2352 games for a win percent of 56.8%
in 2013, that is 983+419 / (983+1368) = 59.6%
in 2014 that is (566 + 200) / (566+704) = 60.3%
equating those to american odds, thats -131, -148, and -152.
for reference, today's +1.5 RL's average out to -155.
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BarstoolProphet
SBR MVP
06-05-14
1151
#18
Originally posted by posey
2014:
- 1336 games
- RL covered: 1124
- RL not covered: 210
- 210/1336 games with 1 run differential = 16%
2013:
- 2430 games
- RL covered: 1992
- RL not covered: 430
- 430/2430 games with 1 run differential = 18%
2012:
- 2430 games
- RL covered: 2055
- RL not covered: 368
- 368/2430 games with 1 run differential = 15%
If you do not mind , could you break this further to home and away stats. tia
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posey
SBR MVP
05-23-14
1112
#19
Yeah, gonna do it tomorrow or the day after tomorrow Not enough time left today. Sorry.
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Cappinpicks
SBR Posting Legend
03-11-10
14986
#20
pretty crazy to think it hits over 10% as far as helping you win.. either way the juice is retarded