Adam wainwright only -111 vs dodgers ???
yes he is facing beckett who has opened everyones eyes this year. but we are talking about the most consistent pitcher in baseball who just gets better every year. he beat the streaking phillys in his last start vs a red hot hamels who had gone 20 innings without giving up a run going into that game. ALL OVER THIS ONE.
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Dodgers team total under
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Game must be in LA...Comment -
Versus josh beckett.... Ha what givesComment -
i just bought the hook u7 is the best play on the board tonight hell on my books that dont let me buy hooks i played the 6.5Comment -
waaaaa?
Rotoworld:
Shelby Miller | Starting Pitcher
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Cardinals manager Mike Matheny said after Tuesday's game that Shelby Miller (back) is expected to be ready for his next scheduled start.
Miller exited Tuesday's contest in the third inning with back spasms, but it was a precautionary move. The young right-hander will take a 3.75 ERA into Sunday's start against Clayton Kershaw and the Dodgers.Jun 25 - 1:06 AM
Source: Jim Hayes on Twitter
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Yeah mag he missed one start recently but pitched against Philly on 21st gave up 1 run on 6 hits thru 8 innings and fanned 8! He had some minor nagging elbow issue apparently but is ok now. Need to look at this one a bit closer but would lean Under here probably. I hate backing the Cards their spotty offense never shows up when I do lol.Comment -
Wow. How are Dodgers favored here?
Beckett is overrated.
I am not even sure about the Under...not the best one out there today I don't feel. I mean, both teams hit better vs righties and Beckett is good for at least 3 runs. Wind slightly out. If Under 7 is like -125, I might take it.
I locked in Cards last night at -116 and still think it's a great price.
What gives??Comment -
Two pitchers in the top 5 ERA.in all of MLB: Wain. #2 @ 2.08, Beck. #5 @ 2.28.Comment -
Beckett ' s bulk of opponents not good hitting teams. Cincy the best hitting team he's faced. Cards got their bats going lately and usually give Waino some run support.
Beckett ' s ERA vs Cards over 4.50
Stats - wise best play is 1st Inning no score, but will be juicey.Comment -
You asked a question and I answered it. Despite who you like or dislike the numbers don't lie. There are always mitigating factors in stats, but I assume that is were they get their line, plus LA is home. BOL in your wager, too early in the day to make calls, look @ Col. game, already down to 8.5. TT's aren't out yet etc.Comment -
No I tend to agree with Rollindo here Mag. While Beckett is no slouch you have to take quality of opposition into account to some degree at least. KC Chiefs were a prime example last year when their defense looked amazing and everyone was calling them the best thru 1st half of the year. I kept telling everyone just wait they are good not great and only shining vs terrible backup Qb's. Last 6/7 games of the year they got torched when the big boys showed up! Don't think that applies so much to the Cards here tho who are average at best and even terrible at the plate on many nights. I'm seeing a 2-1 or 3-2 type gm here either way. BolComment -
You're right man.
Did you play that Under in Philly I gave yesterday?Comment -
No I was actually on Philly ml never saw your play. Had a great day for most part aside from those damn Phil's:/Comment -
On paper it seems like a pitchers duel, but this year those "pitchers" "duels" have turned into or sided games. And with the lack of hitting dodgers provide at home , wainwright pick is a joke .Comment -
Going to take a stab at No Score 1st...The numbers are screaming at me.Comment -
When I posted, I had read the MLB.com preview for the game and they had him as injured but did not list severity or how long. Good to see hes not gonna miss next start.waaaaa?
Rotoworld:
Shelby Miller | Starting Pitcher
LATEST NEWS
Cardinals manager Mike Matheny said after Tuesday's game that Shelby Miller (back) is expected to be ready for his next scheduled start.
Miller exited Tuesday's contest in the third inning with back spasms, but it was a precautionary move. The young right-hander will take a 3.75 ERA into Sunday's start against Clayton Kershaw and the Dodgers.Jun 25 - 1:06 AM
Source: Jim Hayes on Twitter
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Wainwright sucks at Dodger StadiumComment -
Lower -120 should be an automatic FADE, yes.
6-12 (-1.06, 33.3%) avg line: -102.1 / -107.9 on / against: -$625 / +$553 ROI: -32.5% / +27.9% 7-11 (-0.89, 38.9%) avg line: -125.8 / 110.2 on / against: -$898 / +$719 ROI: -32.2% / +30.8% 12-6-0 (1.78, 66.7%) avg total: 7.2 over / under: +$535 / -$730 ROI: +27.0% / -36.9% Comment -
dodger just came back from KC and not much time for anything and boom, wainwright in their face. I think line is right. waino opened -117 yesterday so sharp $$$ are on dodgers. if waino, take the F5 imoComment -
That chart doesn't prove anything . It's good chart with a lot of info. But it doesn't prove anything. Who was the opposing pitcher that day? How was the opposing teams faring during that span offensively? Beckett is a above avg pitcher. Wainwright has been the best pitcher in baseball this year. And most importantly when he pitches the team wins. Proven by his 10 wins.Comment -
You come up with crap, I counter it with 18 facts (games) and you say it does prove nothing? Man. These are facts. Since 2011 the Cards are 6-12 with Waino starting and a line of -120 or lower. It's a fact. End of debate.Comment -
Crap is his era 2.08 and his 10-3 record right? Crap is that this year it's his best start of his career Lol
So prove your facts to shut me up by telling me at least one pitcher he faced. Cause Beckett is way past his prime. Please don't tell me is elite.Comment -
I've never seen this data either, what site is it from? Generally I pay a lot more attention to pitching performance data eg BAA FIP ERA WHIP BABIP and all your usual splits rather than how a team fared on ML RL or OU with a given pitcher on the mound. Data like the above doesn't account for who the opposing team and pitcher was, or how Wainwright performed by key performance metrics. It's interesting though ~~Comment -
@DGB:
It's from killersports.com. You can set up queries there for different events and get the results for ML, RL and totals and the ROI for it. Data from above accounts for much more than you think. If you set up very deep queries you can easily make profit. Look into the SQDL thread if you don't believe me.
And of course the query from above is very short and unspecific. But Mr. Amadeo claimed that Waino -150 or lower is an automatic. Which is very unspecific, too.
But the past has shown, that Waino at -120 or lower is an automatic fade. And the Dodgers proved it again. If Waino would be an automatic at those odds the Cards wouldn't be 6-13 in those games.
@Rollin:
If you need help with killersports or whatever feel free to message me.
@Amadeo:
Who won? Oh the Dodgers 0-1.
Look for yourself lol.Comment -
Nice call ^ . I got to give it to you . But if I had to the chance to do it agen , id pick the cardinals agen lol. I will look pay attention to the stats that site provides.Comment -
I understand your reasoning and I didn't want to offend you, so sorry for that. It's early here in Germany and I don't want to go to work right now, I would rather sleep so I got a little angry. Sorry.
As I said there are a ton of surprising trends out there which one would never think of. THe killersports.com database is very powerful and you can query for a ton of stats, too (ERA, WHIP, H, BB, K, whatever).Comment
