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  • Bread
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #1
    Bread's World Baseball Classic Futures
    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


    It seems like it’s been forever since I was able to watch some baseball. The 2009 World Baseball Classic is now upon us, much to the delight of yours truly. In the wee hours of Thursday morning, the event will kick off when China plays Japan. From there, the games will keep on coming, as 16 countries battle it out.

    The teams are split up into four pools, with the top two placers moving on to the second round. The first two rounds are double-elimination, which will always breathe second life into your wagers. TheGreek currently has odds on out on the team to win each pool, as well as the overall winner. Below are the listed odds, as well as some thoughts.

    POOL A – From Tokyo
    China +5000
    Chinese Taipei +500
    Japan -350
    Korea +200

    Japan is a heavy favorite to win here, as they feature several recognizable MLB stars. Dice-K Matsuzaka, Iwamura, Fukudome and Ichiro will all be playing in front of a home crowd in Tokyo. This reminds me that attending a baseball game in Tokyo is on my list of things to do. I have a cousin who did this, and she told me that during at-bats, they would pump uncensored rap through the loudspeaker. She said it was so loud, that the bass would shake the walls. The best part is that all the Asian fans would be rapping along word for word, including every F-bomb. This sounds just surreal enough that I have to see it in person!

    I have to party with these people


    The Japanese are the defending champs, as they beat Cuba in the 2006 finale. They will certainly advance, but I’m making a play on Chinese Taipei to win this pool. A couple of players to keep an eye on here are outfielder Che-Hsuan Lin and second baseman/outfielder Chih-Hsien Chiang. Both players are in the Red Sox farm system, and Lin especially has been making some noise in Greenville and at the Olympics in Beijing. Sure, Japan looks like safe money there, but I’m playing safe in Pools C and D. I’m taking some risks here, and definitely in Pool B as well.



    POOL B – From Mexico City


    Australia +2000


    Cuba -500


    Mexico +200


    South Africa +5000



    Last Classic’s runner-up, Cuba, is the biggest favorite to win their respective pool. They are returning many players from that team. One player who is not returning is White Sox infielder Alexi Ramirez. He had quite a performance in ’06, and hasn’t looked back since he joined Chicago. Regardless, this Cuban team remains strong. I like them to make a repeat appearance in the final game, but once again, I’m going to put some money on a big longshot to win this pool.



    Supports the DH rule






    The hometown Mexican team could be a nice play here. Their key player is Joakim Soria. The Kansas City pitcher has become my favorite closer in baseball. Several other major leaguers make this team intriguing, but like I said, I’m going with a big dog here.



    No, not South Africa. That would be just silly. This isn’t cricket. My play is Australia at +2000. I know, this isn’t rugby either, but I’m taking a shot with the Aussies. Two thirds of the team are in MLB’s circuit, and maybe, just maybe, they can improve on their last appearance here when they went winless. That would make Bread happy.



    POOL C – From Toronto


    Canada +1000


    Italy +10,000


    USA -250


    Venezuela +350



    OK enough funny business, as the bid for underdogs ends now. Italy is +10,000 which is funny because that’s also the number of combined vowels in the team’s last names. That wasn’t that funny, but watching the Italians play will be. Don’t waste a single lira on them.



    The Canadian team boasts MLB hitters Russell Martin, Justin Morneau, Joey Votto, Jason Bay, Matt Stairs and Mark Teahen. That’s a pretty formidable line-up that could pose some problems. Their best hope is to advance by taking second place. The USA is going to exact some revenge on Canada for giving us Celine Dion, and it’s not going to be pretty.


    You will pay dearly, Canada


    The US team reads like a who’s who of MLB stars: Roy Oswalt, Jake Peavy, JJ Putz, Derek Jeter, Chipper Jones, Dustin Pedroia, Jimmy Rollins, Curtis Granderson, Ryan Braun and David Wright stand out in particular. They should win this group and win it easily.



    I gave a bit of a look at Venezuela at +350 until I realized that their five standout players (Felix Hernandez, Jose Lopez, Miguel Cabrera, Carlos Guillen and Magglio Ordonez) were all on the two most disappointing teams in the Majors last year (Mariners and Tigers). That’s not the kind of shame that you can bounce back from too quickly.



    POOL D – From San Juan


    Dominican Republic -300


    Netherlands +10,000


    Panama +175


    Puerto Rico +350



    I like the Netherlands because they give me an excuse to make jokes about Joran van der Sloot and Natalee Holloway, not because they are a baseball powerhouse. No thanks.



    The Never-lands






    I see the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico advancing here. Panama could have some trouble keeping up. The Dominican team is more stacked than even the Americans, and I’ll be playing them to win the D Pool.



    The Dominicans have some of the game’s top players in A-Rod, Jose Reyes, Hanley Ramirez and Big Papi. Throw in some household names like Alou, Pedro, Olivo, Beltre, Cano, Tejada and Jose Guillen, and it looks like a winner to me. I won’t be stopping there either. Here are the odds to win it all:



    Final – From Los Angeles


    Australia +25,000


    Canada +10,000


    China +20,000


    Chinese Taipei +5,000


    Cuba +800


    Dominican Republic +200


    Italy +8,000


    Japan +400


    Korea +1500


    Mexico +2000


    Netherlands +17,500


    Panama +3000


    Puerto Rico +1500


    South Africa +25,000


    USA +240


    Venezuela +1200



    It’s almost time for Final Four talk, so let me get warmed up here. I have USA, Dominican Republic, Cuba and Japan in my Classic Final Four. Meeting in the finals, I’m going with the Dominicans against the Cubans. My pick to win it all is the Dominican team. There is news that a hip injury could force A-Rod from the WBC. That won’t change my play, and will make them even more fun to root for.



    It would be nice if I could get better odds than just +200, but I see it as a pretty decent shot to double up your money. Now if only I could get Danny Almonte on the Dominican team. I wonder if he would he be listed in the program as being 45 years old?


    What birth certificate?
  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #2
    Oh man, if I'd stopped to think about this, I'd have played Japan in the WBC opener this morning. Terry Collins wrote the book on 'mismanaging' a baseball team.

    Japan has begun the defense of its title with a 4-0 win over China in the opening game of the World Baseball Classic.

    China is managed by former major league manager Terry Collins, who also has managerial experience in Japan with the Orix Buffaloes.
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    • Bread
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-16-08
      • 23726

      #3
      I wanted China to win, to assist my Chinese Taipei bet!! Japanese team strong.
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      • wtf
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-22-08
        • 12983

        #4
        u write sooooo gooood

        pick soooo bad
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        • Bread
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-16-08
          • 23726

          #5
          wtf you numbnut...I'm a winner. Yea dog!
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          • The HOFF
            SBR MVP
            • 07-02-08
            • 4847

            #6
            Hearing all the horns and chanting during the China/Japan game made me want to watch Mr. Baseball with Tom Selleck.
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            • Crayzee
              SBR MVP
              • 10-27-06
              • 4945

              #7
              korea -2-1/2 run -125 /- 380ml over taipei friday 430am

              netherlands -7 run -125 over dominican repub saturday 1100 am

              on bet jam right now

              -7 runs!?!!?!!!?

              am i missing/ misreading something??

              they must have the teams reversed by mistake??
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              • Bread
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-16-08
                • 23726

                #8
                That's definitely reversed. No doubt about it.
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                • wtf
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-22-08
                  • 12983

                  #9
                  baseborn swine!
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                  • bmw530i
                    Restricted User
                    • 04-19-08
                    • 4058

                    #10
                    I am not following the classic, but the writing is great as well as Celine's hip action. Bread you and Willie should write a novel together. Just make sure MMA Robyn gets the foreword page.
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                    • Crayzee
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 4945

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bread
                      That's definitely reversed. No doubt about it.
                      so i guess that wouldnt hold up if you made a bet on it now?
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                      • Bread
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-16-08
                        • 23726

                        #12
                        It just sounds really wrong. Who knows? Give it a shot. Dominicans +7 vs The Never-lands! hhahahaha.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Solid Info Bread
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                          • Bread
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-16-08
                            • 23726

                            #14
                            Chinese Taipei a big dog tomorrow vs Korea at +310. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              These games are tough to cape because not much info on foreign teams. I will watch a little and maybe bet some later in tourney.
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                              • Bread
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-16-08
                                • 23726

                                #16
                                Just put some $$$ on Chinese Taipei at +300.

                                JJ play the game with me. You know you're up at 4:30 AM anyways, old man!
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                                • smarmy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-03-08
                                  • 1863

                                  #17
                                  4:30 this morning?
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                                  • Bread
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-16-08
                                    • 23726

                                    #18
                                    Yes ghost #74. 4:30 AM. Don't be gay.
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