Did anyone else bet Houston/Baltimore at 5 Dimes?

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  • yisman
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-01-08
    • 75682

    #1
    Did anyone else bet Houston/Baltimore at 5 Dimes?
    Apparently they never fixed the Houston pitcher from Bedard (despite adjusting the line to account for the change) and voided all my wagers.
    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
    [/quote]

    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
  • stevenash
    Moderator
    • 01-17-11
    • 65565

    #2
    ^
    Interesting, Tony will not, if never win any congeniality awards soon, but he would't stoop that low, Tony is not like that.
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    • yisman
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-01-08
      • 75682

      #3
      after the game went over the 8.5 (Houston scored 9), 5 Dimes graded all the wagers canceled
      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
      [/quote]

      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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      • blackeyeshamus
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-19-11
        • 6632

        #4
        Holy fxxk.
        You're right.
        My HOU RL cancelled, bc Bedard was listed, apparently.
        HOU -1@+170 pending, however, with Oberholtzer listed.
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        • yisman
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-01-08
          • 75682

          #5
          I placed bets on the total at 7:05 PM Eastern, right before first pitch (along with bets at around 4 PM)

          those got voided too. They listed the wrong pitchers.

          The change happened at about 2 PM Eastern, and they adjusted their lines along with every other book.

          07/31/13 06:54:09pm +230 -250
          07/31/13 05:43:36pm +225 -245
          07/31/13 05:19:05pm +235 -255
          07/31/13 05:18:59pm +240 -260
          07/31/13 02:56:17pm +248 -270
          07/31/13 02:51:45pm +250 -275
          07/31/13 02:32:50pm +255 -280
          07/31/13 02:10:14pm
          07/31/13 02:09:26pm
          07/31/13 02:09:25pm
          07/31/13 10:12:35am +198 -218
          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
          [/quote]

          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #6
            Awful. Just awful. It's not like Bedard was a last-minute scratch.

            5Dimes
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #7
              Originally posted by yisman
              I placed bets on the total at 7:05 PM Eastern, right before first pitch (along with bets at around 4 PM)

              those got voided too. They listed the wrong pitchers.

              The change happened at about 2 PM Eastern, and they adjusted their lines along with every other book.

              07/31/13 06:54:09pm +230 -250
              07/31/13 05:43:36pm +225 -245
              07/31/13 05:19:05pm +235 -255
              07/31/13 05:18:59pm +240 -260
              07/31/13 02:56:17pm +248 -270
              07/31/13 02:51:45pm +250 -275
              07/31/13 02:32:50pm +255 -280
              07/31/13 02:10:14pm
              07/31/13 02:09:26pm
              07/31/13 02:09:25pm
              07/31/13 10:12:35am +198 -218
              You're not going to get anywhere, but I'd call them on that. Immediately.
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              • yisman
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-01-08
                • 75682

                #8
                OK, I think I can guess at what happened.

                They changed it for the regular betting (so the -1 RL would be with the correct pitchers), but failed to change the listing of the pitcher for reduced juice bets.

                So if you bet the reduced total or reduced RL, your bet got voided.
                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                [/quote]

                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                • yisman
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-01-08
                  • 75682

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  You're not going to get anywhere, but I'd call them on that. Immediately.
                  I did. I've been on hold with customer service for like 45 minutes, on and off.

                  CS had no idea what I was talking about and wanted to know why my bet shouldn't have been voided. lol.

                  Adam: Just a moment, please.


                  Then a 40 minute wait and:

                  Adam: Other pitcher started on that bet http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?p...meType=%27R%27
                  Adam: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?p...meType=%27R%27
                  me: but I placed bets right before game time

                  me: the change happened at 2 PM Eastern

                  me: and 5 Dimes even took their lines down and re-adjusted them after the change

                  Adam: Brett Oberholtzer started on that game and you have other pitchers listed
                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                  [/quote]

                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                  • No coincidences
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-18-10
                    • 76300

                    #10
                    Originally posted by yisman
                    I did. I've been on hold with customer service for like 45 minutes, on and off.

                    CS had no idea what I was talking about and wanted to know why my bet shouldn't have been voided. lol.

                    Adam: Just a moment, please.


                    Then a 40 minute wait and:

                    Adam: Other pitcher started on that bet http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?p...meType=%27R%27
                    Adam: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?p...meType=%27R%27
                    me: but I placed bets right before game time

                    me: the change happened at 2 PM Eastern

                    me: and 5 Dimes even took their lines down and re-adjusted them after the change

                    Adam: Brett Oberholtzer started on that game and you have other pitchers listed
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                    • yisman
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-01-08
                      • 75682

                      #11
                      I wish the chats were time stamped so I could show you how long his moment was. Apparently, "just a moment" has no limit. They could keep you there for hours.
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • yisman
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-01-08
                        • 75682

                        #12
                        the guy doesn't even speak English.

                        Adam: Sir it was your decision to you place the wager with or with out the wanted pitcher listed.
                        Adam: But the rules are clear. And you Should know what the rules are since you play with us since 2010
                        [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                        [/quote]

                        [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                        • Crystos
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 05-19-13
                          • 418

                          #13
                          Wow...that's dirty
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                          • yisman
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-01-08
                            • 75682

                            #14
                            I just wanted them to admit their error and after 105 minutes, they finally did.

                            Yes, I'm stubborn.

                            Percy: I understand . Is our mistake . We graded all the totals, spreads and Listed Moneylines no action .

                            Percy: We lost almost all the action for that game for that mistake
                            me: thank you, that is all I wanted to heart
                            me: *hear
                            me: good night

                            I'll post the full conversation later. Classic stuff, trying to get something across to CS reps.
                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                            [/quote]

                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #15
                              Conversation began at around 8:15 Eastern and ended at 10 PM Eastern

                              Please wait for a site operator to respond.
                              You are now chatting with 'Adam'
                              Adam: Welcome to our online Customer Service! How may I assist you today?
                              me: password is ****
                              me: some wagers I made were misgraded
                              me: example: [ticket]
                              Adam: why should it be corrected ?
                              Adam: ***** is your account ID by the way?
                              me: yes. I placed the wager right before the game
                              me: all the books had the line at 8.5
                              Adam: and?
                              me: and what, it was a bet on tonight's game
                              me: were all wagers on tonight's astros game canceled?
                              Adam: [ticket] isn't in your account within the last 7 days. When did you place the wager?
                              me: I placed several wagers here's another [ticket]
                              Adam: Just a moment, please.
                              Adam: Other pitcher started on that bet http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?p...meType=%27R%27
                              Adam: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?p...meType=%27R%27
                              me: but I placed bets right before game time
                              me: the change happened at 2 PM Eastern
                              me: and 5 Dimes even took their lines down and re-adjusted them after the change
                              Adam: Brett Oberholtzer started on that game and you have other pitchers listed
                              me: I don't get to choose what pitchers are listed. I placed bets at 5 Dimes, they list the pitchers
                              me: I bet right before the game started
                              me: Cancelled 7/31/13 7:05pm Reduced Baseball 967 Houston Astros/Baltimore Orioles Over 8½ -110*
                              me: so if the wrong pitcher was listed it was not my fault. You can see the 7:05 PM stamp and the game began about a minute later
                              Adam: Sir it was your decision to you place the wager with or with out the wanted pitcher listed.
                              Adam: But the rules are clear. And you Should know what the rules are since you play with us since 2010
                              Adam: Let me know if there is any other wager you want us to review
                              me: no I bet reduced baseball I could not choose listed or not listed
                              me: on reduced baseball the only way you can bet is listed
                              me: and the book evidently listed the wrong pitchers, this is not my fault
                              Adam: Let me transfer you Sir
                              Please wait while I transfer the chat to 'Percy'.
                              You are now chatting with 'Percy'
                              Percy: Good Evenining!
                              me: hello
                              Percy: I was following your chat with Adam.
                              Percy: Let me tell you that your bet was graded properly
                              Percy: It was no action as you had listed Bedard and he didn't started the game
                              me: can you tell me why the wrong pitchers were listed on a bet at gametime?
                              me: Adam seems to think I selected Bedard, I did not
                              me: I went to reduced baseball and bet the over on the game
                              me: the book chooses what is listed, and listed is the only way it is allowed to bet on baseball totals
                              Percy: Bedard was listed yesterday to start until there was a pitching change .
                              me: yes, there was a change at 2 PM Eastern today
                              me: please look at when my bet was placed
                              Percy: yes , the change was made this afternoon
                              Percy: all totals are listed and that's why your play is no action
                              Percy: That's final
                              Percy: Is there anything else I can assist you with?
                              me: sir I don't think you understand
                              me: I am asking why Bedard was listed at the book at gametime
                              me: when the change was made at 2 PM
                              Percy: The game started at 7 pm ET
                              me: and?
                              Percy: we change it as soon as we find out a different pitcher was starting
                              Percy: your play in no action
                              me: yes but the pitching change happened at 2 PM and you adjusted your lines accordingly
                              Percy: that's all
                              Percy: correct \
                              Percy: Yours is no action
                              me: I just want to know why the pitcher was not changed
                              me: when my bet was placed five hours after the change was announced
                              Percy: We will never change a pitcher from your bet . We can change the line but never your bet . If you had a different listed pitcher is No Action .
                              me: percy, I placed my bet 5 hours after the pitching change. What I am telling you is that I could not choose which pitchers to list
                              Percy: Please take a time to read the baseball rules
                              Percy: http://www.5dimes.eu/sb_rules.html#baseball
                              me: the only option in baseball betting is to bet with listed pitchers
                              me: and you list the pitchers, not me
                              me: so I just am trying to understand why the wrong pitchers were listed
                              Percy: Is very simple . Did your listed pitchers started the game ? yes or no ?
                              Percy: yes , then you have action
                              Percy: no , then your bet is cancel
                              me: No one had action then
                              me: you had the wrong pitcher listed, that is not a bettor error. That is a book error
                              me: so yes I know why it was voided
                              me: but I don't know why the book had the wrong information
                              Percy: Only if someone had both starting pitchers . Or who took the Moneyline Action
                              me: at game time
                              me: What I am trying to explain to you is that I did not choose which pitchers to list, that is not an option made available. The book lists the pitchers and you have to bet it that way
                              me: so I assume a lot of bets were voided tonight on that game
                              Percy: that's correct
                              me: I just was explaining I did not make an error. Whoever was responsible for adjusting the pitchers did not adjust them. If I could type in manually which pitchers I wanted to list, I would have
                              me: but yes I know that my bet has to be voiced
                              me: I just wanted it acknowledged that it is not my error. I placed my bet with what the book had listed
                              Percy: I never said you made any error. I understand your point but your play is graded correctly . All bets that had listing Bedard were graded no action
                              me: you didn't say it but Adam did
                              me: this is a quote Adam: Sir it was your decision to you place the wager with or with out the wanted pitcher listed.
                              me: so he was saying I chose the wrong pitcher to list when there is no such option to select other pitchers
                              Percy: Totals are always listed anyways
                              me: yes
                              Percy: I apologize for the inconvenience but the line was listed with the wrong pitcher . For this reason All bets that had listing Bedard were graded no action. It's nothing against you is just the rules .
                              me: yes that is fine I just wanted to point out that it was a book error on the listing and that I did not choose the wrong pitcher, I just did what anyone else did betting the total
                              Percy: I understand . Is our mistake . We graded all the totals, spreads and Listed Moneylines no action .
                              Percy: We lost almost all the action for that game for that mistake
                              me: thank you, that is all I wanted to heart
                              me: *hear
                              me: good night
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • brumbies
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-21-09
                                • 1489

                                #16
                                if only adam had transferred the chat to tony. would have been a classic.

                                105 mins? wow you must have a lot of patience! i wouldn't waste a single second on chat because i know they won't 'un-void' it.
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                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 19734

                                  #17
                                  they are being shady lately.

                                  they tried to pull on quick one on me two days ago.

                                  always check the pitchers and always check your tickets folks...

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