Since Dwight lies--here it is, in his own words

[dante1]

Please note that our good friend Dwight says "this is what I wrote," not anything but that. He did not give credit to the original author he passed it off as his own by those above words.

Dwight you also lie and I will periodically embarrass the crap out of you by reminding everybody as often as I can of your treachery and lies.

He then reinforces that this is his property at the end of his post when he says
I wasn't being nasty... using the word "I" again.

They fvckin steal and lie and then deny it.






Originally Posted by DwightShrute


Shafted

this is what I wrote

Republicans believe that each person is responsible for his or her own place in society. Government should enable each person the ability to secure the benefits of society for themselves, their families and for those who are unable to care for themselves

Democrats believe it is the responsibility of government to care for all individuals, even if it means giving up some individual rights and/or subordinating enterprise and initiative.

Republicans believe free enterprise has brought economic growth and innovations that have made this country great. Government should help stimulate a business environment where people are free to use their talents

Democrats believe that the economy is too complicated for individuals to navigate alone. They believe that business decisions should be guided by government officials and in the best interest of labor unions


I wasn't being nasty to democrats but instead name calling and pointing out the I spelled too with only one o was the only reply. That was all he could come up with. Maybe he or you for that matter, have brains. Maybe you are just too lazy to use them? Most likely, it's just poor people skills and too much MSNBC.

See, debates are just that. Debates. He said only 50% of it was correct. All I did was ask , where am i wrong?

I don't expect you to understand.


No Dwight, that isn't what you wrote. That my ignorant, uneducated lazy friend is what you plagarized word for word from the California Republican Party. So besides being a stupid pawn of the Republicans you are a thief and a liar. You are exactly what I expect from a Republican, a dishonest, hypocritical, lazy, fake unable to pen his own thoughts and very willing to steal intellectual material.

Time after time the Republicans, you included eventually show their true colors. I had a feeling you were a lazy bastard and unwilling to do some real research. And you my stupid friend proved it. What can you possibly say about this, how can you defend yourself? The tiny bit of respect I had for you is completely shot.

Hey Shafted how about this shit? He totally swiped this material from his asshole friends without mentioning it and in this post that I quoted he types "this is what I wrote."

No Dwight, that is what you stole. And to make matters worse you had no clue that
I, a teacher and professor might catch it. You are truly a pathetic soul.

I will no longer respond to a thief.
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but in how they are held: instead of being viewed dogmatically,
they are held tentatively, with a consciousness that new evidence
may at any moment lead to their abandonment.
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[DwightShrute]

you are sad

[dante1]

you are sad

This is your defense, OMG.

I will never let your forget my friend, never.

[andywend]

When Dwight said "this is what I wrote" it was in response to Shafted's incorrect intrepretation of a prior post.

In no way did Dwight ever take credit for being the author of those words and even if he did, WHO CARES?

The only thing conservatives like Dwight ask of democrats like yourself is to STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES. Unfortunately, YOUR KIND can NOT financially take care of yourselves without our assistance.

Dante1, you are a PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING and I feel real sorry for the students who had to endure listening to a piece of HUMAN GARBAGE like yourself.

You refer to yourself as a "teacher/professor" and then try to convince others that this title makes you smarter than everyone else even though nothing could be further from the truth. The fact remains you were NOT able to make it in the real world and its a shame you were fortunate enough to find an institution foolish enough to hire you to teach others.

One can only imagine how much DAMAGE you inflicted on the students in your classroom.

Like all left-wing lunatics, DANTE1 WREAKS OF FAILURE!!!

[Cappy]

Andy, Dwight's kind of an idiot, why did you ally with people like that?

I guess because you're both conservative means you're going to agree on a lot of issues, but it doesn't mean you have to defend him.

[slacker00]

you are sad

"The Schrutes produce very thirsty babies."

[BigdaddyQH]

Dante, why don't you tell everyone in here just exactly what you teach, and where you teach it. You are just another pathetic Liberal who isw looking for a place to hide. Liberal policies are failures. People like yourself should be eliminated from the gene pool. Now tell everyone where you teach. I will destroy you in here, along with all other Liberals. You are a disgrase to your profession.

[DwightShrute]

Andy, Dwight's kind of an idiot, why did you ally with people like that?

I guess because you're both conservative means you're going to agree on a lot of issues, but it doesn't mean you have to defend him.

Cappy, you ally yourself with the likes of Dante1 so what does that make you? please don't answer, it was a rhetorical question.


Thanks for backing me up Andy, you're a solid guy with the gift of reason and common sense.

Ditto Bigdaddy

[DwightShrute]

"The Schrutes produce very thirsty babies."

I train my major blood vessels to retract into my body on command. Also, I can retract my penis up into itself.

[andywend]

Andy, Dwight's kind of an idiot, why did you ally with people like that? I guess because you're both conservative means you're going to agree on a lot of issues, but it doesn't mean you have to defend him.

Cappy, the idiot in this thread is clearly Dante1. If you go back and re-read the applicable thread, Dwight posted "here's what I wrote" in respone to a misintrepretation by Shafted69 and copied and pasted the platform written by the California republican party. Dante decided to go on a tirade about Dwight plagarizing and stealing and I thought Dwight showed tremendous restraint in his responses.

I can't stand people like Dante who think they are so much smarter than everyone else.

EVERYONE has the right to believe what they want and that includes you Cappy. I have no problem with you hating Bush (though I most certainly disagree with you) but show some class in your criticisms of him. I will always try and do the same when it comes to my criticisms of Obama.

[Andy117]

The only thing conservatives like Dwight ask of democrats like yourself is to STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES. Unfortunately, YOUR KIND can NOT financially take care of yourselves without our assistance.

I'd love it if conservatives really would stick to that. Problem is they have no problem getting involved in your life if you like or want to do certain things they don't approve of such as gay marriage or legalization of drugs.

[andywend]

Andy, its important to remember that NOT all republican politicians are conservatives just like not all democratic politicians are stone cold liberals.

Ron Paul is one of the only true conservative republicans left and I believe he supports gay marriage and the legalization of drugs.

The drug issue is kind of tricky. Do you believe Heroin along with needles should be sold "over the counter" at every corner drug store? Where do you draw the line on what should be legal and what shouldn't be?

As far as gay marriage, I strongly oppose it even though I feel the government has no right to tell 2 consenting adults what they can and can't do. If gay marriage is legalized, it will lead to a far greater increase of people CHOOSING to be gay. If you take all the politically correct bullshit out of the equation and think the issue through with common sense, its easy to understand why this would happen.

Since the beginning of time, the definition of marriage has been between a man and a woman and it should stay that way.

[Andy117]

As far as gay marriage, I strongly oppose it even though I feel the government has no right to tell 2 consenting adults what they can and can't do. If gay marriage is legalized, it will lead to a far greater increase of people CHOOSING to be gay. If you take all the politically correct bullshit out of the equation and think the issue through with common sense, its easy to understand why this would happen.

Since the beginning of time, the definition of marriage has been between a man and a woman and it should stay that way.

Honestly why would anyone CHOOSE to be a gay? It's still a discriminated against lifestyle and probably always will be. No one chooses to be gay.

[andywend]

Andy, EVERYBODY chooses to be gay and there is absolutely no medical evidence to the contrary.

I would be very interested in reading about true medical evidence that supports your claim if you can find any.

With that being said, people have every right to make that choice and the government has no right to interfere by telling 2 consenting adults what they can and can't do.

Marriage is defined to be between a man and a woman. In order to change this, the federal government would have to step in and REDEFINE the meaning of marriage.

The same rules apply and the federal government should not step in and intervene by changing the definition of marriage.

[Indecent]

Andy, EVERYBODY chooses to be gay and there is absolutely no medical evidence to the contrary.

I would be very interested in reading about true medical evidence that supports your claim if you can find any.

Ditto on your claim. I'd love to see medical evidence that people choose to be gay.

[DwightShrute]

I'm a lesbian

[andywend]

Ditto on your claim. I'd love to see medical evidence that people choose to be gay.

Indecent, when a man or woman decides to have a relationship with a member of the same sex as opposed to a member of the opposite sex, they are making a choice by definition.

Clearly, you believe that people are born gay and homosexuality is somehow passed on by genetics. Therefore, it is up to you to provide medical evidence to back up this claim.

You can't provide this evidence because no credible medical evidence exists that people are born gay. Its this flawed kind of thinking that led to all the ridiculous medical procedures back in the 50's, 60's and 70's to rid the body of the "homosexual" gene.

[Andy117]

Andy, EVERYBODY chooses to be gay and there is absolutely no medical evidence to the contrary.

I would be very interested in reading about true medical evidence that supports your claim if you can find any.
.

I don't have any evidence to support that, but you also don't have evidence to refute it either. Just ask yourself, why throughout history would any purposely choose a extremely unpopular and discriminated against lifestyle on their own. Just doesn't make sense.

[andywend]

I don't have any evidence to support that, but you also don't have evidence to refute it either.

Andy, your admission that you can't find any medical evidence to support that people are born gay pretty much proves my point.

Over the past 20 years or so, homosexuality has become much more accepted than ever before with a large increase in the number of people openly expressing their preference for the same sex via gay pride parades, gay/lesbian groups, etc.

This increased acceptance has also brought about large increases in the number of people practicing homosexuality.

If gay marriage is legalized, it will encourage millions of people to explore their own sexuality and it will lead to many more people becoming gay. In the future, I wouldn't be surprised if gay/lesbian groups demand that sex education classes in high school include discussions about how its perfectly normal and acceptable to be gay.

I don't believe its healthy for the country to see a surge in the number of people practicing homosexuality and legalizing gay marriage will cause exactly that.

[Indecent]

Indecent, when a man or woman decides to have a relationship with a member of the same sex as opposed to a member of the opposite sex, they are making a choice by definition.

What if the individual in question never enters into a relationship? You can still be gay without ever acting on it physically. Do you think people choose who they are attracted to? Do they choose who they fall in love with?

I'm really curious to hear you expand on this a little bit. Do you believe that people who have been gay (and acting on it physically) for their entire life can suddenly decide to be straight? Can people consciously decide what makes them aroused? Can straight male who is only attracted to blond white women suddenly decide he is attracted to only brunettes now? How much of a choice do people have?

As a (bad) example, think about your favorite color. For the sake of this, let's say your favorite color is green. Can you force yourself to change your favor color to brown? Why or why not?

Clearly, you believe that people are born gay and homosexuality is somehow passed on by genetics. Therefore, it is up to you to provide medical evidence to back up this claim.

Where's the requirement for you to prove that it's a choice? You hold other people to high standards but not yourself? That makes sense...

Besides, I haven't made such a claim, you are putting words in my mouth. With that said, I certainly have no need to provide medical evidence of anything, especially what you speculate my opinion to be. Less speculation, more substance please.

When you make a claim (you have), the burden of proof is on you. Good luck with that.....

[Andy117]

Andy, your admission that you can't find any medical evidence to support that people are born gay pretty much proves my point.

No it doesn't. It could mean that they haven't found the genetic marker for homosexuality yet.

[Indecent]

Over the past 20 years or so, homosexuality has become much more accepted than ever before with a large increase in the number of people openly expressing their preference for the same sex via gay pride parades, gay/lesbian groups, etc.

This increased acceptance has also brought about large increases in the number of people practicing homosexuality.

Could the fact that the world has never been more accepting of homosexuals be the reason more people are coming out? It seems that it's not more people choosing to be gay, but more people choosing not to hide who they are.

If gay marriage is legalized, it will encourage millions of people to explore their own sexuality and it will lead to many more people becoming gay. In the future, I wouldn't be surprised if gay/lesbian groups demand that sex education classes in high school include discussions about how its perfectly normal and acceptable to be gay.

So the reason otherwise "straight" people don't participate in homosexual acts is because they know they won't be able to get married? How are they encouraged, because it's no longer illegal? Or the fact that it's legal means it's accepted?

I don't believe its healthy for the country to see a surge in the number of people practicing homosexuality and legalizing gay marriage will cause exactly that.

Any proof of this at all? Of course not, you're above burden of proof. Everyone else needs to prove you wrong. That seems fair....

[BigdaddyQH]

I think the whole question of Gay Marriages is rediculous. In California, same sex partners have the exact same rights as traditional partners. IMO, gays are just looking to try and force their beliefs on the general public. They hve as much right to do that as heterosexuals have of forcing gays back into the closet. The term "marriage" has long had religious implications. To me, if a gay couple are guaranteed the same rights as traditional married couples, they should stop demanding that the term "marriage" be used to define their relationship. It is a meaningless argument, and just serves to polarize gays in the eyes of most heterosexuals.

There are certain things that laws can not change. If a person is a racist, there is no law or statute that forbids this. If a person is anti gay, that is the persons right. If a person chooses not to associate or hire gays' that is his right. Sure there are anti-discrimination laws, but those are so easy to get around that the laws are basically useless. Just look at the Rooney law in the NFL. If I am a small business, and want to hire an employee to help me, no one is going to force me to hire a gay, a woman, a minority, or anyone else for that matter. Anti-discrimination laws are basically unenforceable.

[Indecent]

In California, same sex partners have the exact same rights as traditional partners.

That's one state.

To me, if a gay couple are guaranteed the same rights as traditional married couples, they should stop demanding that the term "marriage" be used to define their relationship.

If they aren't guaranteed the same rights (they aren't everywhere), then to you it's ok to demand the term marriage be used? Sounds good.

Regardless, it's not about the word, it's the rights.

[andywend]

It could mean that they haven't found the genetic marker for homosexuality yet.

If they ever do find a genetic marker for homosexuality, then it would certainly be fair to say that people are born gay. However, until that day comes and absent any other reliable medical evidence to the contrary, homosexuality can only be defined as a personal CHOICE that people make.

Even if they did find some sort of "genetic marker" for homosexuality, then what do you do with the homosexuals who dont have it? In their case, wouldn't it be fair to say they made a personal choice to be gay?

Indecent, there are many people who spend a large majority of their lives happily straight and then decide later in life that they are homosexual. I'm sure there are many women out there that had long-term abusive relationships with a man and decided they are through with that and only want to date other women. Wouldn't you agree these women are making a choice to be gay?

How about a man who was involved in several straight relationships with women who cheated on him and then decides he no longer wants to date women and gets involved in a relationship with another man? Once again, isn't it fair to say this hypothetical individual made a personal choice to be gay?

The truth of the matter is all this talk about people being born gay is done to make homosexuality more acceptable to the general public.

[Andy117]

If they ever do find a genetic marker for homosexuality, then it would certainly be fair to say that people are born gay. However, until that day comes and absent any other reliable medical evidence to the contrary, homosexuality can only be defined as a personal CHOICE that people make.

Even if they did find some sort of "genetic marker" for homosexuality, then what do you do with the homosexuals who dont have it? In their case, wouldn't it be fair to say they made a personal choice to be gay?

Indecent, there are many people who spend a large majority of their lives happily straight and then decide later in life that they are homosexual. I'm sure there are many women out there that had long-term abusive relationships with a man and decided they are through with that and only want to date other women. Wouldn't you agree these women are making a choice to be gay?

How about a man who was involved in several straight relationships with women who cheated on him and then decides he no longer wants to date women and gets involved in a relationship with another man? Once again, isn't it fair to say this hypothetical individual made a personal choice to be gay?

The truth of the matter is all this talk about people being born gay is done to make homosexuality more acceptable to the general public.

And if it is "choice" so what? It doesn't affect you does it?

[EHoneyman]

long live ike

LONG LIVE IKE!!!

[andywend]

And if it is "choice" so what? It doesn't affect you does it?

Andy, I have 2 small children who I believe will be negatively affected if gay marriage is legalized.

If and when the time comes where either of my children see 2 fully grown men kissing each other on the mouth, what am I supposed to tell them:

They were born that way?

While I know its a double standard, I can understand why women might decide they have had it with the opposite sex as men commit the vast majority of adultery, are responsible for most cases of domestic violence, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, etc.

However, the thought of 2 men going at it makes me absolutely sick. If this makes me homophobic, then so be it.

[Indecent]

Andy, I have 2 small children who I believe will be negatively affected if gay marriage is legalized.

If and when the time comes where either of my children see 2 fully grown men kissing each other on the mouth, what am I supposed to tell them:

They were born that way?

I've been waiting for someone to say this...

In the illustrious words of Louis C.K: "I don't know, it's your shitty kid you ****ing tell him. Why is that anyone else's problem? Two guys are in love but they can't get married because you don't want to talk to your ugly child for five minutes? Who cares about your shitty kid. He's probably a faggot anyway"

Perhaps a little harsh, but also completely true (well, except for the last part). The rest of the world has to suffer because you can't talk to your children? Seems fair.

However, the thought of 2 men going at it makes me absolutely sick. If this makes me homophobic, then so be it.

A hypocrite, maybe, but doesn't make you homophobic. It makes you straight. But whether it makes you sick should have nothing to do with allowing people the same rights that you have.

[Indecent]

If they ever do find a genetic marker for homosexuality, then it would certainly be fair to say that people are born gay. However, until that day comes and absent any other reliable medical evidence to the contrary, homosexuality can only be defined as a personal CHOICE that people make.

There's the wonderful logic in play again. No one can prove X, so Y must be true is not how it works. Why can't Y be wrong too? Oh, that's right, it's your side, so it has to be right.

You obviously can't prove your side (far-fetched hypothetical situations aside), but are absolutely certain that the absence of proof for the other side proves yours. Following your logic: However, until that day comes and absent any other reliable evidence to the contrary, homosexuality can only be defined as a genetic trait. See, I can jump to unfounded conclusions too.

[Andy117]

Andy, I have 2 small children who I believe will be negatively affected if gay marriage is legalized.

If and when the time comes where either of my children see 2 fully grown men kissing each other on the mouth, what am I supposed to tell them:

They were born that way?

While I know its a double standard, I can understand why women might decide they have had it with the opposite sex as men commit the vast majority of adultery, are responsible for most cases of domestic violence, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, etc.

However, the thought of 2 men going at it makes me absolutely sick. If this makes me homophobic, then so be it.

I have 2 kids also, if they see 2 men kissing (and they will you can't hide it forever) and they ask me about it, I'll explain it to them. What are you gonna do if one of your kids turns out gay? Disown them?

[dante1]

Dante, why don't you tell everyone in here just exactly what you teach, and where you teach it. You are just another pathetic Liberal who isw looking for a place to hide. Liberal policies are failures. People like yourself should be eliminated from the gene pool. Now tell everyone where you teach. I will destroy you in here, along with all other Liberals. You are a disgrase to your profession.

You should check your spelling, or did you? lol

[BigdaddyQH]

You should check your spelling, or did you? lol

Answer the question phony. Where do you spew your Liberal venom? Obviously you are a coward, a liar, or both. So tell us, you phony Liberal B**ch.

[dante1]

If they ever do find a genetic marker for homosexuality, then it would certainly be fair to say that people are born gay. However, until that day comes and absent any other reliable medical evidence to the contrary, homosexuality can only be defined as a personal CHOICE that people make.

Even if they did find some sort of "genetic marker" for homosexuality, then what do you do with the homosexuals who dont have it? In their case, wouldn't it be fair to say they made a personal choice to be gay?

Indecent, there are many people who spend a large majority of their lives happily straight and then decide later in life that they are homosexual. I'm sure there are many women out there that had long-term abusive relationships with a man and decided they are through with that and only want to date other women. Wouldn't you agree these women are making a choice to be gay?

How about a man who was involved in several straight relationships with women who cheated on him and then decides he no longer wants to date women and gets involved in a relationship with another man? Once again, isn't it fair to say this hypothetical individual made a personal choice to be gay?

The truth of the matter is all this talk about people being born gay is done to make homosexuality more acceptable to the general public.

Science has just about proven that it is a genetic trait your moron. Check out the science before you make an ass out of yourself.

I find I can stomach fiscal conservatives, but the social conservatives that is another story. These people actually believe they have the moral high ground and walk with God. What a joke. These are the same assholes that fought against every social advancement since the mid 17th century. They were wrong then they are wrong now and they will always be wrong.

In fact it is almost ludicrous and useless to argue with them because they will be soon irrelevant. It is just a matter of time until the social arguments of today will be decided on the liberal side and accepted by a huge majority of the populace. We still have a small portion of bigots in this country but they are irrelevant and a small minority. But, in 1860 the majority of people were prejudice, even the soldiers fighting for the North thought little of the black community. This is just one example how the tide of politics always shifts liberal in the long run. Always, when it involves social issues. During the Industrial
Revolution child labor was common place and children were killed in great numbers. The conservatives fought against reform in this area. Today everyone accepts child labor laws, well almost everyone. Progressive action always wins out. What is considered liberal today will be main stream tomorrow. If you don't know that and understand that you don't know American history and American politics.

[BigdaddyQH]

Andy, I have 2 small children who I believe will be negatively affected if gay marriage is legalized.

If and when the time comes where either of my children see 2 fully grown men kissing each other on the mouth, what am I supposed to tell them:

They were born that way?

While I know its a double standard, I can understand why women might decide they have had it with the opposite sex as men commit the vast majority of adultery, are responsible for most cases of domestic violence, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, etc.

However, the thought of 2 men going at it makes me absolutely sick. If this makes me homophobic, then so be it.

You tell them the truth. You tell them that those two men are social outcasts. You tell them that there is no medical proof that they were born this way. You tell them that they may have chosed this type of lifestyle. You tell them that they are much more suseptable to AIDS, a death sentence, than straight men. You tell them that people who have to demonstrate this feeling towards each other in public only care about themselves, and are incapable of coping with society. You tell them that these two have a right to behave like they are, but society as a whole also has a right to condem their behavior. You tell them that it is illegal to discriminate against them, but it is not illegal to believe that their sexual preference and actions are disgusting. You tell them that people like that are often frowned upon by society as a whole, and people who choose to demonstrate their affections in public are much more like to bring harm upon themselves than people who show their affections in private. That is what you tell them.