Guys What Is Play Tonight?? Giants @ Dallas

[deadstare]

ROMOOOO

[GoBlue77]

Its just insane that when LB and JJ choose the same team, they always lose.

Also throwing on the 3rd down was idiotic. THats 40 more seconds you give them.

if you throw on 3rd down you HAVE to go for it on 4th down. how can they beat that dumb not to get the touchdown LOL

[d2bets]

Also, earlier in the drive they kept snapping it with lots of time on clock. They had no business leaving the Cowboys all that time. It's like they wanted to lose.

[Seattle Slew]

Manning screwed up by not taking the sack, but the call was awful. He could have blindsided and fumbled. You don't even drop back there. Just pound the ball up the middle.

[mikewlgm]

Cris collinsworth sounds like he's j*akcing off in the booth to Romo....thats why I usually don't watch sunday night football 50% of the time its dallas and they always cream themselves on Tony Romo

[ttwarrior1]

whats wrong with the forum, no posts about cowboys or giants, or romo, or the bad playcalling of giants, wtf

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eli....

[d2bets]

if you throw on 3rd down you HAVE to go for it on 4th down. how can they beat that dumb not to get the touchdown LOL

That I wouldn't do. It's a ton easier to get TD than FG. The mistake is that you have to make sure the clock runs down there.

[TwoWays]

So they let romo throw and march down field in easy fashion. That's always been the case. Did something change over his time here that makes Dallas think otherwise

[opie1988]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

Romo makes it look too easy.

Giants

[Seattle Slew]

Once they passed, you had to go on 4th. No way you give Romo that much time with decent field position.

if you throw on 3rd down you HAVE to go for it on 4th down. how can they beat that dumb not to get the touchdown LOL

[Plaza23]

I'm not sure why Coughlin decided to throw the ball with 1:28 left on the 1 yard line when the Cowboys had no timeouts. But as a Cowboy ML bettor, I'd like to thank him.

Unbelievable comeback.

Giants were +3 on turnovers
Still lost

[jtoler]

I think you have to blame the O.C. first and foremost, even if Eli didn't scramble still a chance of throw and incomplete, just run, u either score or waste 40 seconds, how hard of a decision is that.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

If the Giants secure the first down and decline the offsides, does not that allow the playclock to tick away?

[teaserpleaser]

Brutal ....right after that int return I took dallas -150 large then the int on the next play

Not going to lie I was pretty pissed about this but it worked out

[jtoler]

The old NFL prevent defense, seems to never work with a buck thirty left.

[Ra77er]

I'm not sure it wasn't the right thing to just throw it away like Eli did....the playcall was risky to say the least.

[Plaza23]

Even if it's to trick then once Manning sees there is no throw, then just slide down. Even if they lose 10 yards it's still an easy FG.

Thats a good point. Throwing it away was the worst decision he could have made. Also, he could have risked an INT by throwing it like he did. Just beyond stupid playcalling.

Honestly the Giants passing on the 1 was dumber than the Seahawks doing it in the Super Bowl.

[Fred The Hammer]

Eli has 2 rings but I guarantee Peyton would've known the situation and changed to a run or took the sack and ran the clock. Inexecusable loss for NY tonite. This game was over

[stealthyburrito]

No matter how much time was on the clock the giants still needed to D up and they let them break off 15-20 yd pass plays through some soft ass prevent

[GoBlue77]

That I wouldn't do. It's a ton easier to get TD than FG. The mistake is that you have to make sure the clock runs down there.

no thats wrong.

either you are bleeding clock to get your field goal or

you punch it in and seal the game.

WHEN THEY DECIDED TO PASS ON 3RD DOWN, the field goal was taken out of the equation and it was touchdown or nothing. my gawd are people this dumb

[Ra77er]

No because taking a sack is not automatic 3 points still. Every yard matters, these kickers are unreliable from college on up these days. I'm pretty sure Vinateri missed (easy) ones today and the guy from Yaksonville as well.

[mikefan1034]

Had em all the way 3 grand rich thanks
Lakerboy never in doubt

[BXbomber11]

What's amazing is the giants ended the game with all three timeouts considering their defense was non existent the last two drives.

[Plaza23]

Its Mannings fault....He opted to throw it away instead of taking a sack which wouldve ran 40 secs off the clock

Plus, the Giants just made Eli the 4th highest paid QB in the league (from ages 35-38). They are going nowhere for the next 4 years.

[Seattle Slew]

No, the clock stops on all penalties. Dallas caught a break. If they weren't offsides, they would have burned the second TO there.

If the Giants secure the first down and decline the offsides, does not that allow the playclock to tick away?

[GoBlue77]

No because taking a sack is not automatic 3 points still. Every yard matters, these kickers are unreliable from college on up these days. I'm pretty sure Vinateri missed (easy) ones today and the guy from Yaksonville as well.

guess you missed last years Super Bowl. interceptions, turnovers happen...if you are calling a pass, you intend to throw. if you intend to throw you obviously DONT care about clock management considering incompletions. damn i should be a coach, even fools on here don't understand

[Fred The Hammer]

One of Romo's picks (maybe both...can't remember) were just juggled passes to a receiver. I'm no Cowboys fan and I doubt Romo ever wins a SB but he led the NFL in passer rating last yr and did his best to get them a W in Lambeau last year in the playoffs and he was pretty damn clutch tonite!!

[jtoler]

No, the clock stops on all penalties. Dallas caught a break. If they weren't offsides, they would have burned the second TO there.

I don't think it does.

[alamo]

Why did the clock stop when Dallas commited a personal foul to allow the first down. The Giants had just run a play that was short and the clock was ticking. When the Dallas lad hit flowers that stopped the clock. This is a flaw In the rule and will encourage more personal fouls as a way of stopping clock.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

If the game clock is stopped after a down in which there was a foul by either team, following enforcement or declination of a penalty, the game clock will start as if the foul had not occurred, except that the clock will start on the snap if:

1. the foul occurs after the two-minute warning of the first half
2. the foul occurs inside the last five minutes of the second half

[EdwardHaney]

No, the clock stops on all penalties. Dallas caught a break. If they weren't offsides, they would have burned the second TO there.

I'm not sure...Did the refs get this wrong or am I getting it wrong? Either this is a horrible rule, or I am wrong...Look...the Giants completed a 16-yard pass to Beckham for a first down, and declined the penalty on the play. The game clock should have winded on the whistle, in my opinion, unless Dallas took a timeout (which they didn't). I'm kinda shocked nobody is making a big deal out of this. It changed the outcome of the game. I didn't bet on this game, I'm just confused.

[jtoler]

If the game clock is stopped after a down in which there was a foul by either team, following enforcement or declination of a penalty, the game clock will start as if the foul had not occurred, except that the clock will start on the snap if:

1. the foul occurs after the two-minute warning of the first half
2. the foul occurs inside the last five minutes of the second half

Yes, doesn't always stop, I'm still confused on the running out of bounds though, sometimes it stops, sometimes it doesn't.

[alamo]

I'm not sure...Did the refs get this wrong or am I getting it wrong? Either this is a horrible rule, or I am wrong...Look...the Giants completed a 16-yard pass to Beckham for a first down, and declined the penalty on the play. The game clock should have winded on the whistle, in my opinion, unless Dallas took a timeout (which they didn't). I'm kinda shocked nobody is making a big deal out of this. It changed the outcome of the game. I didn't bet on this game, I'm just confused.

Yes I agree with you. The Giants declined the offsides so the clock should've ran. Instead they stopped the clock. The clock seemed to be stopping on every play on the Giants drive for one thing or another.

[Ra77er]

guess you missed last years Super Bowl. interceptions, turnovers happen...if you are calling a pass, you intend to throw. if you intend to throw you obviously DONT care about clock management considering incompletions. damn i should be a coach, even fools on here don't understand

Teams have done a better job to take that away these days...obviously running there is the best option but everyone knows that. Going for the jugular on the road with a playcall is not "always" a terrible result. Peoples brains are wired to remember the bad beats.

Having said that I would've ran Marshawn in the SB and today along with this spot if I were the coach but I can see the value of trying to get an easy pitch and catch to the TE, FB leaking out in the flats to seal the deal. Dallas was ready for it and defended it well and Manning should've taken the sack to keep the clock rolling but the second best option to keep points on the table is to throw it away there.