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  • Goat Milk
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-24-10
    • 25850

    #1
    Liking Tipsy to Beat Ferrer
    Tipsarevic with a lot more power on this surface. I think he'll force Ferrer into defensive mode for most of the match. I think Tipsy will be a lot more aggressive and if he's efficient it'll pay off.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
  • MeatWad
    SBR MVP
    • 01-18-12
    • 1572

    #2
    Interesting match, Tipsarevic does have a slight power advantage, more aces and mph on serves. But both are groundstrokers and neither is overpowering or rely on power tennis to win matches.

    Not sure if this match is bettable, but I think Ferrer has a significant edge. His style makes him very underrated. He is unexploitable, supremely conditioned and is a master at sequencing groundstroke rallies to a position where he has an advantage, generally relying on his forehand to finish the point.

    He has played the big 4 frequently and better than anyone, many of his loses this year are to these elite players 7 out of 11 loses to the Big 4 this year. Once he gets past the first round of a tournament he either loses to the big 4 or wins the championchip as he has 5 titles this year.

    He has a better record overall record and on hardcourts than Tip this year. While Ferrer never wows you, I expect him to grind out another win here. In meaningful matches his form has been too good recently, unless you name is Murray, Nadal, Djoker, or Federrer he seldom loses. About the only blemish recently was his loss to Kei Nishi.... at the Olympics and the best of 5 set format suits his conditioning perfectly. He is better rested for this one as well.

    He is cleanly the 5th best player in the world, has beaten and played tougher opponents than Tips this year, he pushed Murray hard in the semi's at Wimbledon. He is soo consistent in these big events and soo hard to beat unless you have the vicious power and angled ground strokes of the big 4.

    I will probably pass unless I can find Ferrer closer to -200. I may wake up and bet this one though. Just too hard not to recognize how well Ferrer plays. I cannot see what Tips would do to beat him. Basically ferrer either tanks a tounrney in the first round(rare) or goes until he meets one of the elites and always plays a game match. His record against non top 4 players in major tournaments is ridiculously good, while Tips has alot more less quality losses blemishing his record. Tips lost to Gasquet I believe in straights at the Australian hard courts, who Ferrer has handled relatively easy a couple of times this year including his last match. Not much recent history between these two, think ferrer is 2-1 overall 1-0 on hard, but they haven't met in years.
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    • shimeon40
      SBR MVP
      • 03-15-12
      • 2319

      #3
      Tipsarevics big chance to go deep into this tourney..i'm going the tip rat.
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      • bsutphi
        SBR High Roller
        • 08-12-10
        • 183

        #4
        Ferrer finished his match early on Tuesday and Tips finished his match late yesterday. Do you think this will have any effect on the outcome? Tennis players love routine, and this may throw Tips off. Also, he may come out a bit sluggish considering he had less than 24 hours rest between matches.
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        • gators0708
          SBR MVP
          • 10-07-10
          • 2318

          #5
          On Tipsy as well, such a great opportunity for him.
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          • matt1216
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-27-11
            • 14683

            #6
            Originally posted by MeatWad
            Interesting match, Tipsarevic does have a slight power advantage, more aces and mph on serves. But both are groundstrokers and neither is overpowering or rely on power tennis to win matches.

            Not sure if this match is bettable, but I think Ferrer has a significant edge. His style makes him very underrated. He is unexploitable, supremely conditioned and is a master at sequencing groundstroke rallies to a position where he has an advantage, generally relying on his forehand to finish the point.

            He has played the big 4 frequently and better than anyone, many of his loses this year are to these elite players 7 out of 11 loses to the Big 4 this year. Once he gets past the first round of a tournament he either loses to the big 4 or wins the championchip as he has 5 titles this year.

            He has a better record overall record and on hardcourts than Tip this year. While Ferrer never wows you, I expect him to grind out another win here. In meaningful matches his form has been too good recently, unless you name is Murray, Nadal, Djoker, or Federrer he seldom loses. About the only blemish recently was his loss to Kei Nishi.... at the Olympics and the best of 5 set format suits his conditioning perfectly. He is better rested for this one as well.

            He is cleanly the 5th best player in the world, has beaten and played tougher opponents than Tips this year, he pushed Murray hard in the semi's at Wimbledon. He is soo consistent in these big events and soo hard to beat unless you have the vicious power and angled ground strokes of the big 4.

            I will probably pass unless I can find Ferrer closer to -200. I may wake up and bet this one though. Just too hard not to recognize how well Ferrer plays. I cannot see what Tips would do to beat him. Basically ferrer either tanks a tounrney in the first round(rare) or goes until he meets one of the elites and always plays a game match. His record against non top 4 players in major tournaments is ridiculously good, while Tips has alot more less quality losses blemishing his record. Tips lost to Gasquet I believe in straights at the Australian hard courts, who Ferrer has handled relatively easy a couple of times this year including his last match. Not much recent history between these two, think ferrer is 2-1 overall 1-0 on hard, but they haven't met in years.

            Your right on alot of points. I do think Tipsy has come a long ways since Aussy open tho. Ferrerdidnt look great against Hewitt. When Ferrer played Gasquet last match, Ferrer could have easily lost the fist 2 sets. Tough match to bet. Ferrer could be extra motivated that Federer is now gone.
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            • benrama
              SBR MVP
              • 01-19-11
              • 1499

              #7
              Tipsy always disappoints about this stage of a major tourney - look at Aus Open. All he's beaten here at the US are a bunch of scrubs, I expect he'll probably take a set maybe push it to five but its ferrer or nothing in this match IMO.
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              • Demonata
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 07-12-11
                • 25829

                #8
                Originally posted by bsutphi
                Ferrer finished his match early on Tuesday and Tips finished his match late yesterday. Do you think this will have any effect on the outcome? Tennis players love routine, and this may throw Tips off. Also, he may come out a bit sluggish considering he had less than 24 hours rest between matches.
                Not with how easy he dominated Kohl. He beat him in 3 sets.
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                • zoo youk
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-23-11
                  • 10701

                  #9
                  took Tips +2.5 sets -250
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #10
                    Said it somewhere else, Tipsarevic needs to get cheap points off-serve or he's dead meat. I am interested to see if Tipsarevic is more motivated a lot today because of him retiring last year against Djokovic at this stage in a match he had a legit shot to win at before retiring with a knee or hamstring injury. In that one he beat Djokovic in a breaker, lost a 2nd set breaker and then the injury took its toll as he got bageled and was on his way to eating another bagel perhaps in the 4th. That match was interesting because Tipsarevic claims he retired to avoid more wear on the injury because Davis Cup play was coming up soon after. He proved he could go toe to toe with the best at the biggest stage in that one - whether the injury thing was legit or part Serb on Serb lovin' ... who knows ... I don't think he's going to get blown off court and I have a future riding with him to win this quarter, so I am pulling for him. I still think though that if his 1st serve isn't getting in enough and winning or setting up easy points, Ferrer will eat him up over the course of a best of five.

                    Obviously a big deal for both guys as they both never know how many shots they will get at making a semifinal. Ferrer is consistently getting more of those opps - but he's not a young player nor is Tipsarevic, so it's a large, large pride match for both IMO. I hope it lives up to the hype that the two player's games should bring to the match.
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                    • Snowball
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                      • 11-15-09
                      • 30057

                      #11
                      Ferrer -5 (-105)
                      I trust him a lot more.
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                      • Linngari
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 03-28-12
                        • 213

                        #12
                        Ferrer ML has been pounded with my book but the line is still at -4.5. Can't decide which way to go now
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                        • MrGambler
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-04-10
                          • 973

                          #13
                          Tipsi will win!
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                          • shimeon40
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-15-12
                            • 2319

                            #14
                            Tip rat!
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                            • zoo youk
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-23-11
                              • 10701

                              #15
                              god damnit up 2-0 now 2-2
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                              • MrGambler
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-04-10
                                • 973

                                #16
                                wow. Ferrer is coming like a train now...glad I livebet and hedge with 1 set to Ferrer!
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                                • shimeon40
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-15-12
                                  • 2319

                                  #17
                                  This is why he's a tip rat..mentally inept.
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                                  • shimeon40
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-15-12
                                    • 2319

                                    #18
                                    Hopefully tip rat retires..he's not up to it.
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                                    • MagicDiceFlow
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-15-12
                                      • 4585

                                      #19
                                      Ferrer dissecting Tipsy now. This first set is done. If Ferrer wins the second set, he'll close it out in straights. This next set will decide Tipsy's fate.
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                                      • zoo youk
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-23-11
                                        • 10701

                                        #20
                                        Ferrer is struggling and hes still killing him
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                                        • MrGambler
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-04-10
                                          • 973

                                          #21
                                          This match is over. Concragts to the ones taking liveplay Ferrer 1.80 x money
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                                          • shimeon40
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-15-12
                                            • 2319

                                            #22
                                            yeah..too true mrgambler..those that got on ferrer at 2-0 down
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                                            • zoo youk
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-23-11
                                              • 10701

                                              #23
                                              Tip showed signs of life in that last game with the back hand but Ferrer is gonna be just too much.

                                              took him to win 2nd set.
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                                              • PharaohUB
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-23-07
                                                • 4865

                                                #24
                                                it's not over. It's not looking good, but it's not over. Tipsy needs to come out strong in 2nd set.
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                                                • zoo youk
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-23-11
                                                  • 10701

                                                  #25
                                                  omg i cant believe he just wont that point that gotta be so deflating to Tip.

                                                  Ferrer = brick wall
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                                                  • MoneylineExpress
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-18-11
                                                    • 1439

                                                    #26
                                                    Wow Tips is panicking.
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                                                    • iifold
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-25-10
                                                      • 11111

                                                      #27
                                                      Tip playing like a man now at least...
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                                                      • PharaohUB
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-23-07
                                                        • 4865

                                                        #28
                                                        Ferrer should be scared, Tipsy is on a mission.
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                                                        • MoneylineExpress
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-18-11
                                                          • 1439

                                                          #29
                                                          Ferrer is serving out of his mind. Where did this come from
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                                                          • MoneylineExpress
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-18-11
                                                            • 1439

                                                            #30
                                                            Got to like Ferrer in this tiebreak. Hope I'm wrong.
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                                                            • gators0708
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-07-10
                                                              • 2318

                                                              #31
                                                              tipsy just cant get anything by him not looking good... He's playing to impatient.
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                                                              • Mikail
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-19-09
                                                                • 21689

                                                                #32
                                                                C'mon Tipsy. Need this tiebreak. One time!
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                                                                • shimeon40
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-15-12
                                                                  • 2319

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Go Tip Rat!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                  • PharaohUB
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-23-07
                                                                    • 4865

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Tipsy had reason to have beef there. This is a good match.
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                                                                    • iifold
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-25-10
                                                                      • 11111

                                                                      #35
                                                                      great tennis...
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