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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    Retirement question (100 points for best answer)
    If a favorite of -500 or higher loses, how often was it from retirement?
  • tevari
    SBR MVP
    • 02-02-07
    • 4959

    #2
    You see it more often on the wta tour. A few are notorious for it - azarenka, ivanovic, and bartoli to name a few. In more general terms i would say not often on favs of -500 or more. Tbis could work in your adv or disadvantage depending on where you play.
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    • tevari
      SBR MVP
      • 02-02-07
      • 4959

      #3
      Ps im on my 7th beer at a bar. Forgive anny grammatical or spelling errorss
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65569

        #4
        Originally posted by Justin7
        If a favorite of -500 or higher loses, how often was it from retirement?
        Williams sisters have pulled up lame a few times when losing at -500 or more.
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        • Pride
          SBR MVP
          • 04-12-10
          • 4238

          #5
          tennis gonna tennis
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          • birdmanweezy
            SBR MVP
            • 04-18-10
            • 4635

            #6
            the answer is grow your ego somewhere else
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            • beefcake
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-26-09
              • 14029

              #7
              I bet you dollars to donuts that the most retirements as -500 dog or more are by...you guessed it....Victoria Azarenka. She would quit on anything I wager. To answer your question there have been 82 retirements on the ATP tour this year, and 10 times the fav has been -500 or better(1.2 in decimal odds). 8.2%..Latest is Kei Nishikori at the US Open..

              Let me know if you want the ladies numbers..
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              • noober
                SBR MVP
                • 10-23-09
                • 2012

                #8
                What period do you need the answer for? It's easily obtainable for each of the last 5 years.
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                • Pat McCrotch
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-08-11
                  • 814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Justin7
                  If a favorite of -500 or higher loses, how often was it from retirement?

                  85% of the time
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                  • noober
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 2012

                    #10
                    Since u didn't specify years I am giving u the answer for 2011:

                    ATP: 8/79 = 10.1%

                    WTA: 3/75 = 4%
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #11
                      Both of you gave good information.

                      Now to put it together... How many times have these big favorites retired, compared to how many matches they have lost?

                      So if there are 10 favs, -500 or greater in ATP that retired, how many matches have -500 or greater favs lost?
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                      • noober
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-23-09
                        • 2012

                        #12
                        I think I gave you the answer. In 2011, -500 or greater ATP favs have lost a total of 79 games. 8 of those were because of retirement.
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                        • Justin7
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 07-31-06
                          • 8577

                          #13
                          Originally posted by noober
                          I think I gave you the answer. In 2011, -500 or greater ATP favs have lost a total of 79 games. 8 of those were because of retirement.
                          Apparently, I am having trouble reading. I'm a bit exhausted though.

                          If you take the last 5 years, what are your results?
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                          • noober
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-23-09
                            • 2012

                            #14
                            Will give you the results in 10 minutes.
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                            • noober
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-23-09
                              • 2012

                              #15
                              Here it is:

                              2010: 8/99
                              2009: 5/100
                              2008: 8/101
                              2007: 10/109


                              So including the current year it will be 39/488 = 7.99%
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                              • Wulfman14
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 08-24-10
                                • 8869

                                #16
                                Originally posted by noober
                                Here it is:

                                2010: 8/99
                                2009: 5/100
                                2008: 8/101
                                2007: 10/109


                                So including the current year it will be 39/488 = 7.99%
                                just curious where did you get this info from ? tennis insight ?
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                                • kisado
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 09-09-08
                                  • 519

                                  #17
                                  AzaRETIREnka
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                                  • noober
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-23-09
                                    • 2012

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Wulfman14
                                    just curious where did you get this info from ? tennis insight ?
                                    I have a database with all matches played and the odds for the last 5 years and you can extract that info from there.
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