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  • reformed
    SBR MVP
    • 11-18-10
    • 1384

    #1
    djokovic is an idiot
    serbia might end up losing because of him being lazy and not playing nalbandian. that was an easy match for him....now they could be done 2-0
  • gators0708
    SBR MVP
    • 10-07-10
    • 2318

    #2
    Being lazy? He won the us open on Monday had to go on the today show etc, and finally flew into Belgrade on Thursday.
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    • SRBI
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-20-09
      • 8393

      #3
      Originally posted by gators0708
      Being lazy? He won the us open on Monday had to go on the today show etc, and finally flew into Belgrade on Thursday.
      Truth!
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      • Jrod124
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-31-09
        • 5622

        #4
        they will be favored in doubles, Djoko will play Sunday v JMDP, Tipsy just has to beat Nalbandian or Monaco. Serbia is fine
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        • yisman
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-01-08
          • 75682

          #5
          No, Djokovic is not an idiot.

          Djokovic made the smart move.
          [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
          [/quote]

          [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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          • EaglesPhan36
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 71662

            #6
            Looking for odds tomorrow on Serbia to advance still. Should be large and give you a good money making opp. They should win doubles and then Djokovic will play if they win doubles. It was pretty much a given that he was not going to play today. They've done this with him in the past. Of course I think they were hoping to win one today still, so they have a tough, but not impossible road.

            I give Djokovic a pass here. Rafa played and rolled on similar rest from the US Open, but Rafa played a lot less tennis than Djokovic this season plus Djokovic has his sights on the end of the year Championships still and winning that.
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            • reformed
              SBR MVP
              • 11-18-10
              • 1384

              #7
              what does it cost djokovic to play 3 sets against nalbandian? doing press tour while not resting is not playing tennis....he could have played and WOULD have played if they didnt have another top 30 player on their team. They should have known that troicki is in bad form and its a risk. Why not let djokovic take the easy match now and rest later WHEN they clinch?
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #8
                But what if he has no legs, he comes out and gets beat today ... then you have him unrested trying to help you avoid elimination again. I said it before the rubbers began today, this is how Serbia usually plays it with Djokovic. They rest him early and use him late in hero mode when they need it. Will it always work? Probably not.
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                • reformed
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-18-10
                  • 1384

                  #9
                  djokovic could beat nalbandian playing 50% .... lets be real here djokovic played 2 "demanding" matches the whole "U.S open". With 3 days since his last match he could have easily played today like nadal. I guess it comes down to how much you want to win davis cup
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #10
                    You're pretty hard on Djokovic. Let's not forget he tweaked his back in the final against Rafa. Rest was the smart move. He's not going to jeopardize the rest of his ATP season to try and push it on Day 1 of Davis Cup. And let's be honest, if Serbia can't win one of the first three with or without Djokovic - they probably aren't going to survive any how.
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                    • babar1000
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 08-08-11
                      • 174

                      #11
                      Djokovic is a billiardiaire.
                      He takes a lot of products.
                      One of the most ......
                      Money is the king.
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                      • jsmithj88
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-27-08
                        • 3591

                        #12
                        wat if he played and injured himself ?
                        if hes not ready then hes not ready
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                        • reformed
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-18-10
                          • 1384

                          #13
                          EP actually you are incorrect. if djokovic plays all they need is the doubles and they dont have to pray a banged up tipsarevic can beat nalbandian. how much effort does it take for him to beat nalbandian at home on a hard court? not much.
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                          • kingsr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-23-10
                            • 1983

                            #14
                            Originally posted by reformed
                            EP actually you are incorrect. if djokovic plays all they need is the doubles and they dont have to pray a banged up tipsarevic can beat nalbandian. how much effort does it take for him to beat nalbandian at home on a hard court? not much.

                            OPINIONS - You know what that is Reformed?
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                            • EaglesPhan36
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 71662

                              #15
                              Originally posted by reformed
                              EP actually you are incorrect. if djokovic plays all they need is the doubles and they dont have to pray a banged up tipsarevic can beat nalbandian. how much effort does it take for him to beat nalbandian at home on a hard court? not much.
                              We can argue hypotheticals all day brother. No one knows what form Djokovic would have been in yesterday. Maybe he steamrolls Nalbandian and it's 1-1. Maybe he gets crushed and they're still down 0-2. Nalbandian may not have been in great form lately, but he's a really solid Davis Cup player. IMO, I think it was a smart move to hold him with his back apparently not 100%. I just don't get your criticism of him for not playing. What's the use of playing at less than 100% if it could not only hurt him in the long run, but hurt his country's chances? This wasn't a simple "fatigue" issue ... this was fatigue from the Open + injury.

                              Serbia knows they have the best doubles specialist in Zimonjic and felt comfortable that they could at least not be down & out after the first three rubbers. Now Djokovic has two extra days of rest and will be counted on to knockout Del Potro. That should be a great match.
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                              • reformed
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-18-10
                                • 1384

                                #16
                                tipsy still needs to beat nalbandian which might not even happen....my issue is why djokovic was scheduled to play if he was injured?
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                                • EaglesPhan36
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-06-06
                                  • 71662

                                  #17
                                  They always have a list of the players who the countries have said will play the singles ties and that is how they make the first two rubbers. It's #1 vs. #2 from each country.

                                  If they don't put Djokovic on the list to start with [I think I am right on this] - then he could not be used at all during the competition. So they have to do what they can to protect injured/fatigued players and this is a common practice once these Davis Cup matches start getting played as the season goes on. Have them listed, but then they get puled from a match to get extra rest.
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                                  • reformed
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-18-10
                                    • 1384

                                    #18
                                    nalbandian is a slight favorite against tipsy...according to the books. djokovic may not even get a chance
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                                    • Jrod124
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-31-09
                                      • 5622

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by reformed
                                      nalbandian is a slight favorite against tipsy...according to the books. djokovic may not even get a chance
                                      Djokovic wld be first up, Tipsy/Nalbandian wld be the 5th rubber
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                                      • jdrb
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 08-19-10
                                        • 102

                                        #20
                                        Doesn't matter what Djoker does here, Nalbandian will win his match. One of the greats in Davis Cup.
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                                        • reformed
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-18-10
                                          • 1384

                                          #21
                                          under normal condition serbia wins this tie easily....nalbandian would not have a snowballs chance in hell against a fully healthy djokovic at home.
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                                          • brandoc
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 11-18-10
                                            • 386

                                            #22
                                            Really hope djok gets up so that the 5th match has meaning, im backing fat dave to win it for the argies.
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                                            • brandoc
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-18-10
                                              • 386

                                              #23
                                              Well that pretty much puts the idiot debate to bed - djok retires injured after losing first set tie-break to delpo.

                                              Well done to the Argies but they will get rolled in the final against Spain, in Spain and on clay.
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                                              • EaglesPhan36
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-06-06
                                                • 71662

                                                #24
                                                Yep.
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                                                • reformed
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                                                  • 11-18-10
                                                  • 1384

                                                  #25
                                                  if he is indeed injured, it just proves my point even more that he should have taken the easy match against nalbandian and got a win.
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                                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 71662

                                                    #26
                                                    Reformed you seem to be an obvious Djokovic hater here. No problems, to each his own, but the guy was obviously hampered with the back injury suffered against Nadal. It didn't matter who he played, he was going to struggle from all accounts. When you're less than 100%, there is no such thing as an easy match.
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                                                    • reformed
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-18-10
                                                      • 1384

                                                      #27
                                                      no, I like djokovic but I dont see how he can play nadal in the 4th set but he cant play nalbandian. Do you agree its almost a certainty he would have beat nalbandian?
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                                                      • Jive
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-10-10
                                                        • 1405

                                                        #28
                                                        It is because injuries like that actually get worse after you sit. It is similar to twisted ankles. The ankle is always stiffer and more painful the day after the injury. Djokovic was warm against Nadal and that is probably what allowed him to continue playing well against Rafa.
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                                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 12-06-06
                                                          • 71662

                                                          #29
                                                          How could he have beaten Nalbandian when he couldn't make it through two sets today?


                                                          Jive hit the nail on the head about the injury.
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                                                          • brandoc
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 11-18-10
                                                            • 386

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by reformed
                                                            no, I like djokovic but I dont see how he can play nadal in the 4th set but he cant play nalbandian. Do you agree its almost a certainty he would have beat nalbandian?
                                                            How do you come even close to that conclusion when you now know that the man has a serious injury? Very likely he would've retired against Nalbandian as opposed to have beaten him. Why? Because he's injured!!
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                                                            • reformed
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-18-10
                                                              • 1384

                                                              #31
                                                              nalbandian is easy 3 set work.... that tie break set with del potro would have been 6-3 6-3 with nalbandian.
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                                                              • HeeeHAWWWW
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 06-13-08
                                                                • 5487

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by reformed
                                                                no, I like djokovic but I dont see how he can play nadal in the 4th set but he cant play nalbandian.
                                                                Because Nadal also got injured in that 4th set, and was barely running at the end.

                                                                It was rather fortunate for Djokovic, because after having the back treatment he couldn't serve - first serves were all <100mph.
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                                                                • reformed
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-18-10
                                                                  • 1384

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Ok i take back everything I said about djokovic...it looks like even the 1.5 sets he played with del potro re-injured whatever he had and now he is out a month.
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                                                                  • shari91
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 02-23-10
                                                                    • 32661

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by gators0708
                                                                    Being lazy? He won the us open on Monday had to go on the today show etc, and finally flew into Belgrade on Thursday.
                                                                    Completely off topic but I didn't know until the other day that the winners also spend a big chunk of the next day at the bank (whichever one sponsors each Slam) sorting out their winnings on top of all of their media stuff. That whole cheque presentation is bullshit. Not sure why I've always in 30+ years assumed that the envelope contained a cashable cheque but it doesn't. Kind of disappointed when I found that out for some reason.

                                                                    And I'm glad you came to your senses reformed. Djoko's a lot of things but he's definitely not lazy and he's not an idiot.
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