serbia might end up losing because of him being lazy and not playing nalbandian. that was an easy match for him....now they could be done 2-0
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Being lazy? He won the us open on Monday had to go on the today show etc, and finally flew into Belgrade on Thursday.Comment -
Truth!Originally posted by gators0708Comment -
they will be favored in doubles, Djoko will play Sunday v JMDP, Tipsy just has to beat Nalbandian or Monaco. Serbia is fineComment -
No, Djokovic is not an idiot.
Djokovic made the smart move.[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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Looking for odds tomorrow on Serbia to advance still. Should be large and give you a good money making opp. They should win doubles and then Djokovic will play if they win doubles. It was pretty much a given that he was not going to play today. They've done this with him in the past. Of course I think they were hoping to win one today still, so they have a tough, but not impossible road.
I give Djokovic a pass here. Rafa played and rolled on similar rest from the US Open, but Rafa played a lot less tennis than Djokovic this season plus Djokovic has his sights on the end of the year Championships still and winning that.Comment -
what does it cost djokovic to play 3 sets against nalbandian? doing press tour while not resting is not playing tennis....he could have played and WOULD have played if they didnt have another top 30 player on their team. They should have known that troicki is in bad form and its a risk. Why not let djokovic take the easy match now and rest later WHEN they clinch?Comment -
But what if he has no legs, he comes out and gets beat today ... then you have him unrested trying to help you avoid elimination again. I said it before the rubbers began today, this is how Serbia usually plays it with Djokovic. They rest him early and use him late in hero mode when they need it. Will it always work? Probably not.Comment -
djokovic could beat nalbandian playing 50% .... lets be real here djokovic played 2 "demanding" matches the whole "U.S open". With 3 days since his last match he could have easily played today like nadal. I guess it comes down to how much you want to win davis cupComment -
You're pretty hard on Djokovic. Let's not forget he tweaked his back in the final against Rafa. Rest was the smart move. He's not going to jeopardize the rest of his ATP season to try and push it on Day 1 of Davis Cup. And let's be honest, if Serbia can't win one of the first three with or without Djokovic - they probably aren't going to survive any how.Comment -
Djokovic is a billiardiaire.
He takes a lot of products.
One of the most ......
Money is the king.
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wat if he played and injured himself ?
if hes not ready then hes not readyComment -
EP actually you are incorrect. if djokovic plays all they need is the doubles and they dont have to pray a banged up tipsarevic can beat nalbandian. how much effort does it take for him to beat nalbandian at home on a hard court? not much.Comment -
Originally posted by reformed
OPINIONS - You know what that is Reformed?Comment -
We can argue hypotheticals all day brother. No one knows what form Djokovic would have been in yesterday. Maybe he steamrolls Nalbandian and it's 1-1. Maybe he gets crushed and they're still down 0-2. Nalbandian may not have been in great form lately, but he's a really solid Davis Cup player. IMO, I think it was a smart move to hold him with his back apparently not 100%. I just don't get your criticism of him for not playing. What's the use of playing at less than 100% if it could not only hurt him in the long run, but hurt his country's chances? This wasn't a simple "fatigue" issue ... this was fatigue from the Open + injury.Originally posted by reformed
Serbia knows they have the best doubles specialist in Zimonjic and felt comfortable that they could at least not be down & out after the first three rubbers. Now Djokovic has two extra days of rest and will be counted on to knockout Del Potro. That should be a great match.Comment -
tipsy still needs to beat nalbandian which might not even happen....my issue is why djokovic was scheduled to play if he was injured?Comment -
They always have a list of the players who the countries have said will play the singles ties and that is how they make the first two rubbers. It's #1 vs. #2 from each country.
If they don't put Djokovic on the list to start with [I think I am right on this] - then he could not be used at all during the competition. So they have to do what they can to protect injured/fatigued players and this is a common practice once these Davis Cup matches start getting played as the season goes on. Have them listed, but then they get puled from a match to get extra rest.Comment -
nalbandian is a slight favorite against tipsy...according to the books. djokovic may not even get a chanceComment -
Djokovic wld be first up, Tipsy/Nalbandian wld be the 5th rubberOriginally posted by reformedComment -
Doesn't matter what Djoker does here, Nalbandian will win his match. One of the greats in Davis Cup.Comment -
under normal condition serbia wins this tie easily....nalbandian would not have a snowballs chance in hell against a fully healthy djokovic at home.Comment -
Really hope djok gets up so that the 5th match has meaning, im backing fat dave to win it for the argies.Comment -
Well that pretty much puts the idiot debate to bed - djok retires injured after losing first set tie-break to delpo.
Well done to the Argies but they will get rolled in the final against Spain, in Spain and on clay.Comment -
Yep.Comment -
if he is indeed injured, it just proves my point even more that he should have taken the easy match against nalbandian and got a win.Comment -
Reformed you seem to be an obvious Djokovic hater here. No problems, to each his own, but the guy was obviously hampered with the back injury suffered against Nadal. It didn't matter who he played, he was going to struggle from all accounts. When you're less than 100%, there is no such thing as an easy match.Comment -
no, I like djokovic but I dont see how he can play nadal in the 4th set but he cant play nalbandian. Do you agree its almost a certainty he would have beat nalbandian?Comment -
It is because injuries like that actually get worse after you sit. It is similar to twisted ankles. The ankle is always stiffer and more painful the day after the injury. Djokovic was warm against Nadal and that is probably what allowed him to continue playing well against Rafa.Comment -
How could he have beaten Nalbandian when he couldn't make it through two sets today?
Jive hit the nail on the head about the injury.Comment -
How do you come even close to that conclusion when you now know that the man has a serious injury? Very likely he would've retired against Nalbandian as opposed to have beaten him. Why? Because he's injured!!Originally posted by reformed
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nalbandian is easy 3 set work.... that tie break set with del potro would have been 6-3 6-3 with nalbandian.Comment -
Because Nadal also got injured in that 4th set, and was barely running at the end.Originally posted by reformed
It was rather fortunate for Djokovic, because after having the back treatment he couldn't serve - first serves were all <100mph.Comment -
Ok i take back everything I said about djokovic...it looks like even the 1.5 sets he played with del potro re-injured whatever he had and now he is out a month.Comment -
Completely off topic but I didn't know until the other day that the winners also spend a big chunk of the next day at the bank (whichever one sponsors each Slam) sorting out their winnings on top of all of their media stuff. That whole cheque presentation is bullshit. Not sure why I've always in 30+ years assumed that the envelope contained a cashable cheque but it doesn't. Kind of disappointed when I found that out for some reason.Originally posted by gators0708
And I'm glad you came to your senses reformed. Djoko's a lot of things but he's definitely not lazy and he's not an idiot.
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