Bye Bye Na Li

EaglesPhan36 · 08-30-11, 04:01 PM

Halep is a good up & comer, but expected Na Li to turn it on in a Slam like she's done before. Still, it's WTA so she isn't done until the final game, but not looking good down a break already in the 2nd.

yisman · 08-30-11, 04:03 PM

Kvitova and Na Li were both expected to make the quarters.

Li isn't done yet, though. She could easily win this.

EaglesPhan36 · 08-30-11, 04:04 PM

I don't know that Kvitova was expected to make the quarters. She's been horrible since Wimbledon. By draw, she had a shot to win a few matches, but I didn't think she'd be around for the 2nd week. Li I certainly expected to, not over yet either ... she may rally.

EaglesPhan36 · 08-30-11, 04:09 PM

High quality breakfest.

MUHerd37 · 08-30-11, 04:11 PM

She got the break back just to get broken again.

yisman · 08-30-11, 04:12 PM

First two days have been pretty light on upsets, actually.

Big upsets would be Troicki and Kvitova.

A few moderate upsets like Nishikori and Craybas.

yisman · 08-30-11, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

I don't know that Kvitova was expected to make the quarters.

She was. I don't have the odds in front of me anymore, but she was favored. If not quarters, at least 4th round.

Her first three rounds should've been a breeze.

After that would've been the first real challenge, with a potential matchup with Radwanska or Wickmayer.

EaglesPhan36 · 08-30-11, 04:28 PM

I think breeze is relative when a player is struggling as we're seeing. If they're struggling, no one is easy. Kvitova did have two winnable matches. I had her going out 3rd round I think to Safarova.

Li is gona bust my bracket. Nice 20 pt. donation I made to the contest in that case.

Aeiou1x2 · 08-30-11, 04:28 PM

Wow Hope Na Li retired.

gregm · 08-30-11, 04:30 PM

Li Nas forehand has just completely broken down. She may end up with something around 40 unforced errors when this is through. I dont see her coming back unless halep just has trouble closing out the match.

yisman · 08-30-11, 04:30 PM

Both of my brackets are not looking too good.

EP, when I say expected, I'm referring to the market, which can be viewed by looking at odds.

When you win Wimbledon, a few bad matches doesn't erase your status as a top threat (again, market perception).

Since Wimbledon, she beat Medina Garrigues, lost to Petkovic, beat Scheepers, lost to Petkovic.

Petkovic is an elite player, so that's hardly awful play to lose to her. Kvitova didn't have any matches against clearly inferior competition that she lost.

Also, Kvitova made the 4th round in 2009 and the 3rd round in 2010, both as a much lower seed (27 in 2010, unseeded in 2009).

Tom Jane · 08-30-11, 04:49 PM

ewwww, and the break for the Romanian kid to serve for the match; and I though Li Na was catching on.

EaglesPhan36 · 08-30-11, 04:50 PM

Kvitova was absolutely awful in those two matches vs. Petkovic, someone she had dominated early in the year. For me at least, it was an alarm to watch out that she wasn't quite right. In any case, her Australian Open run looks more like an anamoly than the norm for her on outdoor hard courts. Her last year on this surface is pretty poor outside of that run.

Aeiou1x2 · 08-30-11, 04:57 PM

Thx Li Na for costing me 1.8k

Tom Jane · 08-30-11, 04:57 PM

Insane. Glad I shied away from Li Na in any parlays. Now there's no current Aussie, French, or Wimbledon champ in the draw. WTA players never seize to amaze.

MUHerd37 · 08-30-11, 04:58 PM

What an embarrassing loss. This year Li makes it to 2 grand slam finals and wins one. Then you lose in the first round to Halep? 54 unforced errors to 19 for Halep. I have no idea why you don't just concentrate on getting the ball in when you struggle like that. Take something off it and don't try to drill the line. Stupid.

allabout the $$$ · 08-30-11, 04:59 PM

what were the odds on na li?

yisman · 08-30-11, 05:02 PM

The point is that Petkovic is a top player and you can't say someone is playing awful just because they lost to Petkovic.

Really, Kvitova has had a pretty damn good year.

Final at Eastbourne, 4R French Open, won Wimbledon, won Madrid, won Paris (beating Clijsters in the final), quarters at Australian Open.

She's beaten the following players this year:

Sharapova
Azarenka
Clijsters
Wickmayer x3
Radwanska
Hantuchova x2
Li Na
Zvonareva
Cibulkova x3
Stosur
Pennetta
Pavlyuchenkova
Petkovic

yisman · 08-30-11, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by allabout the $$$

what were the odds on na li?

About -1000, depending on the book.

Tom Jane · 08-30-11, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Aeiou1x2

Thx Li Na for costing me 1.8k

Sorry, bud, always a rough go, the WTA.

gregm · 08-30-11, 05:51 PM

The next one on deck is Hantuchova, she looks bad as Kvitova or Li Na. Li Na looked so bad on the forehand and unforced errors she almost looked like she was tanking the match. Hantuchova is just a trainwreck

yisman · 09-02-11, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

I think breeze is relative when a player is struggling as we're seeing. If they're struggling, no one is easy. Kvitova did have two winnable matches. I had her going out 3rd round I think to Safarova.

Safarova won one game today.