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  • face
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-31-11
    • 14740

    #1
    list of tennis players that are untrustworthy/hard to put money on
    Please help. trying to learn this sport. it is extremely hard. a lot of flaky tennis players, i cannot keep track of them all.

    so far:
    baghdatis
    youznhy
    harrison
    monfils?


    Please list the players who are untrustworthy of your cash even if they are up against an inferior player. thanks
  • Diesel79
    SBR MVP
    • 11-27-08
    • 1001

    #2
    Hanescu
    Dolgopolov
    Gulbis
    Tipsarevic
    Florian Mayer
    Verdasco
    Davydenko
    Dimitrov
    Petzschner
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    • Mirar Baseball
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      • 04-05-10
      • 1263

      #3
      some players are adequate when priced as underdogs, and useless when favorites

      those should be on this list, to help bettors avoid getting stuck in bad situations
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      • sharlataans
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        • 08-13-10
        • 1927

        #4
        Good thread.

        I say at least 15% of top 150 tennis players are involved on betting their own games.
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        • noober
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          • 10-23-09
          • 2012

          #5
          Zakopalova useless as a fav. Can beat anyone and can lose to anyone.
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          • HeeeHAWWWW
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            • 06-13-08
            • 5487

            #6
            Not sure this sort of list is any use. All players are unreliable, in that they lose as favourites.

            If somebody is inconsistent, or has wild swings in form, that's useful information.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65557

              #7
              Williams sisters.

              How many times do they cry 'injury' and WD when they are losing in a match?
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              • Tsonga
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                • 10-12-09
                • 2349

                #8
                Monfils is high on my list. Gulbis, davydenko, youzhny, petz, dolgopolov, and all of women's tennis.
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                • koscheckbaby
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                  • 04-05-10
                  • 1314

                  #9
                  It seems like Berdych is capable of losing to anyone any given day, so he's dangerous for parlays and matches you assume he'll win easily
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                  • beefcake
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                    • 11-26-09
                    • 14029

                    #10
                    Azarenka...
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                    • HeeeHAWWWW
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                      • 06-13-08
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by koscheckbaby
                      It seems like Berdych is capable of losing to anyone any given day, so he's dangerous for parlays and matches you assume he'll win easily
                      Last three years he's 88-25 under 1.50 (-200), returning -2.6% at pinnacle. That's pretty much the juice, so his results are what the market expects. As a heavy fav, under 1.20, he's 36-4 and +0.5%, so quite reliable.

                      As a dog, he's 18-34, returning a nice +7%

                      If you're finding him unreliable, you're just overrating him :-)
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                      • tevari
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                        • 02-02-07
                        • 4959

                        #12
                        Wawrinka
                        Berdych
                        Fognini
                        Dolgopolov
                        Dimitrov
                        Davydenko
                        Oudin (i had to put her in, she's an automatic fade)
                        Sharapova
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                        • koscheckbaby
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                          • 04-05-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                          Last three years he's 88-25 under 1.50 (-200), returning -2.6% at pinnacle. That's pretty much the juice, so his results are what the market expects. As a heavy fav, under 1.20, he's 36-4 and +0.5%, so quite reliable.

                          As a dog, he's 18-34, returning a nice +7%

                          If you're finding him unreliable, you're just overrating him :-)
                          Thanks for the stats. I must have bad luck when I back him as a fav. He lost to Robert, Llodra at US Open, and Guccione when I bet on him
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                          • face
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                            • 01-31-11
                            • 14740

                            #14
                            wawbrinka = very unpredictable
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                            • Gaskan
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                              • 01-31-11
                              • 765

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW

                              Last three years he's 88-25 under 1.50 (-200), returning -2.6% at pinnacle. That's pretty much the juice, so his results are what the market expects. As a heavy fav, under 1.20, he's 36-4 and +0.5%, so quite reliable.

                              As a dog, he's 18-34, returning a nice +7%

                              If you're finding him unreliable, you're just overrating him :-)

                              Where'd you grab these stats? Very useful!!!
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                              • beefcake
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                                • 11-26-09
                                • 14029

                                #16
                                Yeah HeeeHaw where did you grab these from?..Points from me if you give out this info
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                                • Pew Pew
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                                  • 12-21-10
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                                  #17
                                  Surprised no one mentioned Melzer... Most overrated ranked player ever...
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                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                    • 06-13-08
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                                    #18
                                    Those stats came from tennisinsight. I also have the same with 8 years worth in an excel file of mine, but that's not as easy to use.
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                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by koscheckbaby
                                      Thanks for the stats. I must have bad luck when I back him as a fav. He lost to Robert, Llodra at US Open, and Guccione when I bet on him
                                      To be fair, that Robert result was an unbelievable stinker :-) It's not even like Robert is any good on clay either, and from 2 sets up......
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                                      • Wulfman14
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                                        • 08-24-10
                                        • 8869

                                        #20
                                        cannot believe no one has mentioned that idiot jeremy chardy yet . biggest flake on the atp tour
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                                        • reverdy
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                                          • 12-08-10
                                          • 9

                                          #21
                                          gilles simon his ups and downs in game are making his game very unpredictable
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                                          • tankman777
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                                            • 04-03-10
                                            • 330

                                            #22
                                            add marion bartoli to it as well
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                                            • face
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                                              • 01-31-11
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                                              #23
                                              istomin suspected of some b.s.
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                                              • sapidoc
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                                                • 03-25-10
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sharlataans
                                                Good thread. I say at least 15% of top 150 tennis players are involved on betting their own games.
                                                Any of the top 150 tennis players probably couldn't get enough action down at a book to make a difference in how much money they have and would rather just win.

                                                Not to mention doing it to risk how far they have gotten in life and put it all in jeopardy.
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                                                • EaglesPhan36
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                                                  • 12-06-06
                                                  • 71662

                                                  #25
                                                  Chardy
                                                  Istomin
                                                  Dolgopolov

                                                  Betting on their matches on money lines or totals is useless except maybe for Slams when you can at least presume there is some semblanceof desire to play ... although even that is debatable with these fukks.
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                                                  • sharlataans
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                                                    • 08-13-10
                                                    • 1927

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by sapidoc
                                                    Any of the top 150 tennis players probably couldn't get enough action down at a book to make a difference in how much money they have and would rather just win.

                                                    Not to mention doing it to risk how far they have gotten in life and put it all in jeopardy.
                                                    You probably accidentally copy pasted texts that tennis officials love to feed us to assure the game is clean. It is just a matter of time we will see more cases. It is more simple to fix tennis and disguise it than other sports.

                                                    Look at what level they do it in soccer, where it is much harder to fix games:

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                                                    But I am not going to argue.
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                                                    • ghn999
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                                                      • 01-24-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Great lists of choke!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                      • YorkHunt
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                                                        • 12-11-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        All women
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                                                        • horja1
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                                                          • 01-13-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tankman777
                                                          add marion bartoli to it as well
                                                          No way ... this year she did better than anyone espected ...

                                                          Azarenka and Ana Ivanovic on the other hand ...
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                                                          • donkson
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                                                            • 03-12-11
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                                                            #30
                                                            Jankovic
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                                                            • EaglesPhan36
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                                                              • 12-06-06
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                                                              #31
                                                              Cilic at heavy favorite prices, also pretty poor to back this season for the most part.
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                                                              • horja1
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                                                                • 01-13-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                                                Cilic at heavy favorite prices, also pretty poor to back this season for the most part.
                                                                he just lost second set to Bastian Knittel - ATP rank 187 (playing against him in Hamburg)
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                                                                • beefcake
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                                                                  • 11-26-09
                                                                  • 14029

                                                                  #33
                                                                  You heard it here first, Cilic is going down to Kamke, that line is going to drop like a MOFO when it opens, get it early!
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                                                                  • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                                                    • 06-13-08
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Kamke lives and trains in Hamburg, and the court seems very suited to his game. Well worth looking at.
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                                                                    • beefcake
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                                                                      • 11-26-09
                                                                      • 14029

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by beefcake
                                                                      You heard it here first, Cilic is going down to Kamke, that line is going to drop like a MOFO when it opens, get it early!
                                                                      Thanks for the points!
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