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  • noober
    SBR MVP
    • 10-23-09
    • 2012

    #1
    French Open WTA Analysis
    The French Open is coming very soon so I am doing an analysis on the women. I know the draw is still not out and that’s something that will affect the outright prices but it doesn’t hurt to do some preparation in advance. Knowing which players are currently overvalued or undervalued will definitely help your picks once the draw is out.

    Overvalued Players

    Dinara Safina – Ever since the injury, she is a completely different player. She currently has no believe in her own capabilities and lost ton of matches to low ranked players. In addition, she is mentally very weak and prone to breakdowns. Since the Australian Open she has played only four matches – a win over Szavay, and losses to Peer, Dulgheru and … Zakopalova – a player ranked 78 in the world with little potential to go any higher. I was able to watch two of those matches and was stunned by the amount of unforced errors Dinara was making. If you are to place a bet on her to win the French, the best place would be Betfair at odds of 36.15 (5% commission included). However, I would not recommend it because I doubt there will be any hedge opportunities with her. Depending on the draw, third round loss seems most likely.

    Aravane Rezai –She played amazing last week and was able to defeat top players, such as Jankovic, Henin, and Venus Williams, but she is extremely inconsistent. She hits the ball very hard, and if she has an off day she may lose to an average player. And in a tournament which lasts two weeks, this is very likely to happen. Her best performance, before winning Madrid, was the title in Bali at the end of last year. Since then, she had inconsistent results including losses to inferior players – Petra Martic, Angelique Kerber, two losses to Malek, and two losses to Petkovic. Currently, the best place to bet on her would be on Pinnacle at odds of 21.45. But I wouldn’t be surprised if she loses before the round of 16, as there are some good counterpunchers whose game fit well against Rezai’s.

    Justine Henin – I think she is the most likely winner of the French Open, but given the current odds of 3.25 (Pinnacle) she is extremely overvalued. Since her recent comeback, she has lost twice as a huge favorite – 1.03 to Dulko and 1.12 to Rezai. All of her other losses were to top players, but it’s important to note that she has played a lot of three setters. It is very likely that she will lose the first set in one of her matches at the French Open in which case you can get her to win the match (not the whole tournament) at odds around 3.25. So my advice will be to stay away from her at that price, even though she will most likely win it.

    Undervalued Players

    Martinez-Sanchez – Currently, the odds for her to win it all are highest at Pinnacle – 41. The price definitely provides some value, but I wouldn’t take her before the draw is out. The reason for that is her specific game, which matches very well to some styles, while it doesn’t cope very well with others. Martinez-Sanchez is probably the only player (along with Sam Stosur) who likes to rush the net and rely heavily on drop shots. She tries to break her opponent’s game and that works very well against the youngsters, who usually rely on groudstrokes. Martinez-Sanchez has done very well against Wozniacki, Azarenka, and other mindless ball bashers .However, I wouldn’t be happy to see Martinez-Sanchez facing some of the experienced players, such as the Williams’s sisters or Samanta Stosur. They are able to neutralize her lefty serve very effectively – one of her best weapons.

    Yanina Wickmayer –a future top 3 player in my opinion. She has all the weapons to achieve that goal and will win many Grand Slams in the future, given she stays healthy. She is equally good on both sides (maybe her backhand is slightly better), moves very well, has powerful serve, and most importantly – competes extremely well. I can see her winning against all of the current top players, with the exception of Justine Henin. Being from Belgium, Henin was her idol as a child and it’s not easy playing your idols. Yet, she has pushed Henin on couple occasions, including a three setter at the Australian Open. Wickmayer may not win it all, but with a good draw I see her getting to the semifinals, which will provide very good hedge opportunities. You can get her at 36.7 (Pinnacle).

    Alona Bondarenko – if her game is on, she can do a lot of damage and beat all of the top players. Unfortunately, it’s not rare for her to have bad days and lose against much worse players. She started the year very well, winning the title in Hobart and crushing Jankovic 6-2 6-3 in the third round of the Australian Open. After that, there was a series of average results, but last week in Madrid she had an easy win over Wozniacki, proving that she can beat the top players. You can bet her to win it all at 159 (Pinnacle), which is not bad as I think she is more likely to win it than Rezai. If you want to bet up to $4 on her you can do it at 265 at Betfair
    Last edited by noober; 05-18-10, 07:20 PM.
  • JNic
    SBR MVP
    • 01-03-10
    • 4272

    #2
    great writeup. i love wickmayer, hope she gets far!
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    • beefcake
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-26-09
      • 14029

      #3
      Thanks for mentioning A.Bondarenko,I got ribbed earlier by someone for even suggesting her as a up and comer.
      Great write up!
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      • iceminers26
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-13-08
        • 15600

        #4
        Nice write up Noobs

        I still haven't placed any futures yet but will probably be on these 5 players but not sure on unit sizes yet. I plan on hedging these throughout but think these 5 have some value:

        Azarenka +2862
        Zheng +12,771
        Li +7408
        MJMS +4088
        Suarez Navarro +12,771
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        • Fthenorm
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-20-07
          • 712

          #5
          no way in hell Zheng ever wins the French, even at a million to one...definite value on the rest!
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          • seanjohn007
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-28-08
            • 189

            #6
            i dont think hes looking for hte winner of even the best value. most of the time in big tournaments you look for a big underdog thatll make it through the first couple rounds, leaving you opportunities to hedge and gaurantee money
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            • Ace_of_Spades
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-14-09
              • 13518

              #7
              Stosur is vastly underrated. She's priced at 16. She could get into the finals, and or semis.
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              • shantymoon
                SBR High Roller
                • 04-11-10
                • 189

                #8
                i'm taking stosur outrights
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                • beefcake
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-26-09
                  • 14029

                  #9
                  Youre girl carla hey ice? Great opps to hedge with all those chicks...!
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                  • jayc88
                    Restricted User
                    • 12-30-07
                    • 6785

                    #10




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                    • noober
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-23-09
                      • 2012

                      #11
                      Originally posted by iceminers26
                      Nice write up Noobs

                      I still haven't placed any futures yet but will probably be on these 5 players but not sure on unit sizes yet. I plan on hedging these throughout but think these 5 have some value:

                      Azarenka +2862
                      Zheng +12,771
                      Li +7408
                      MJMS +4088
                      Suarez Navarro +12,771
                      Agree on all except Zheng. Depending on the draw, I will be surprised to see her past 3rd round.
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                      • beefcake
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-26-09
                        • 14029

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jayc88




                        Hot dam,thats a kick ass body!!!
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                        • noober
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-23-09
                          • 2012

                          #13
                          Originally posted by beefcake
                          Hot dam,thats a kick ass body!!!
                          +EV for sure
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                          • iceminers26
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-13-08
                            • 15600

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Fthenorm
                            no way in hell Zheng ever wins the French, even at a million to one...definite value on the rest!
                            When I play futures I look for hedging opportunities as I stated with the post, I'm not expecting her to win it but at such a high price, I feel I will be able to hedge her out for a profit. I also expect Li or Zheng to make a run but not 100 percent sure which one does, so played both futures.
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                            • iceminers26
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 10-13-08
                              • 15600

                              #15
                              Originally posted by seanjohn007
                              i dont think hes looking for hte winner of even the best value. most of the time in big tournaments you look for a big underdog thatll make it through the first couple rounds, leaving you opportunities to hedge and gaurantee money
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                              • iceminers26
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-13-08
                                • 15600

                                #16
                                Originally posted by beefcake
                                Youre girl carla hey ice? Great opps to hedge with all those chicks...!
                                She has been a big disappointment and never grew into the player they thought she would but at those odds and on her favorite surface, figured it was worth a shot and can hedge it out.
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                                • beefcake
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 14029

                                  #17
                                  ice ,where did you find these prices?
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                                  • iceminers26
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-13-08
                                    • 15600

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by beefcake
                                    ice ,where did you find these prices?
                                    Pinnacle

                                    I use the future prices at Pinny and go through my 1 local but those odds I posted above are from Pinnacle at about 1 AM ET this morning.
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                                    • beefcake
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-26-09
                                      • 14029

                                      #19
                                      I need to move to canada to get pinnys prices ,guess im stuck with 5 dimes on this..

                                      What the hell got into Vania King by the way,I thought clay was not her surface,maybe she is making her move now up the rankings..
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                                      • iceminers26
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-13-08
                                        • 15600

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by beefcake
                                        I need to move to canada to get pinnys prices ,guess im stuck with 5 dimes on this.. What the hell got into Vania King by the way,I thought clay was not her surface,maybe she is making her move now up the rankings..
                                        LOL, I honestly contemplated moving to Saskatchewan where a few of my old college teammates live for this sole reason but figured this isn't my full time gig so it wasn't worth it but maybe someday.

                                        Haven't been following tennis the past 5 days or so with all the family gatherings this long weekend so haven't seen what King has done. I'll try to get back into probably Friday when the draw is released, I love the majors and they are a lot of fun.
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                                        • noober
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 2012

                                          #21
                                          The draws for the French Open have come out, so I am doing a follow up on the WTA analysis I did earlier this week. Obviously, the outright prices have changed and so has the value on certain players.

                                          First Quarter:

                                          Serena Williams has a very easy draw and should get to the round of 16 untroubled. However, in my opinion that is as far as she would go because she will most likely lose to Henin. The tree seeded players in Serena’s part shouldn’t be a treat at all. Marion Bartoli has shown that clay is not her best surface and I will be very surprised if she makes it to the round of 16. I see a potential upset with Cornet winning over Pavlychenkova and Peer has demonstrated her inability to handle the power of the Williams’ sisters. Henin, however, has some tough matches before that. She will most likely pay Sharapova in the third round and then Sam Stosur in the round of 16. That confirms my initial analysis that Henin is highly overvalued at 3.25. Surprisingly, the odds haven’t changed so I am suggesting playing the “Henin will not win the French” is that’s available in your bookmaker. I expect the odds for Henin to win against Sharapova to be around 1.33, against Stosur – 1.3 (they played a three setter two weeks ago), and 1.4 against Serena. Multiplying those three numbers you get 2.5. It’s hard to predict who Henin will possibly face in the final three matches of the tournament but let’s say the odds for Henin to win will be 1.25 in each of these matches. That makes 4.7 which show that Henin is overvalued at the current price.

                                          Second Quarter:

                                          This half features three of the players I mentioned in my previous analysis. The odds on Dinara Safina are much more attractive now – 61 at Betfair (5% commission included), but I still think she is a no play. She will face Zvonareva in the third and that’s where her run will most likely end so there won’t be any hedge opportunities. Alona Bondarenko has a very tough draw and I don’t see value in her anymore. She will have a tough opener against Dushevina and then a third round match against Jankovic. I highly doubt the Serbian will lose to her in a second consecutive slam. Clay favors Jankovic and a third round appearance of Bondarenko won’t give you hedge opportunities.
                                          I still think Wickmayer is a good play, especially with the new odds – 81 at Betfair. She has very winnable first three matches and after that she will most likely face Jankovic. I believe she has a shot of beating her and if that happens she can use the confidence to get past her next opponent – Radwanska or Zvonareva. At this point, there will be very good hedging opportunities but letting the futute ride won’t be a bad option.

                                          Third Quarter:

                                          This is the most unpredictable quarter of the draw as it features many unpredictable players. Kuznetsova is very up and down and I could see a big shocker with her losing in the first round to Cirstea. I am not sure how seriously injured Wozniacki is, so I won’t make any predictions on her. But the draw provides great opportunities for players like Penetta, Safarova, and Sciavone to finally make some noise in the slams.

                                          Fourth Quarter:

                                          The odds for Rezai winning it all haven’t changed (20) and given the tough draw she has, she becomes even more overvalued. The French will have a tough second round against Kerber (Kerber beat her in the Australian Open 6-2 6-3), and then she will face Petrova. I can’t see the Russian losing that match but even if that happens, Rezai will then face Venus Williams. Thus, the chance of Rezai making it to the round of 16 is very small and even then you won’t be able to hedge because the payout is so small.
                                          I no longer see value in Martinez-Sanchez, because she has a very tough draw and the odds haven’t changed. She will most likely win the first two matches with ease but then she will face Azarenka. I definitely see the Belarusian being the favorite in that match, but even if Martinez-Sanchez sneaks through she will then face Dementieva. The problem is that the Spaniard will need to win both of these matches for you to be able to hedge your future. So it’s definitely not worth it.

                                          I am looking forward to an amazing two weeks.

                                          Good luck.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Nice info

                                            On womans side any of the top 20 players or so can win

                                            Men its really on Nadal or maybe a guy like Verdasco
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                                            • Fthenorm
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 10-20-07
                                              • 712

                                              #23
                                              feeling another WTA winner like the Myskina year
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