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  • Boner_18
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-24-08
    • 8301

    #1
    Australian Open '10 Futures
    I know it is early and we don't know how many questionable players are training this winter but anyone see any value in the AO '10 lines?

    I might play Monfils now and take out some if he makes the round of 16 or greater...

    ATP
    Australian Open 2010
    Mon 1/18 6:00AM
    *Note: All Players Have Action
    Roger Federer +245
    Juan Martin Del Potro +480
    Andy Murray +625
    Rafael Nadal +700
    Novak Djokovic +700
    Nikolay Davydenko +2200
    Jo Wilfried Tsonga +3000
    Marin Cilic +4000
    Andy Roddick +4200
    Robin Soderling +4200
    Fernando Verdasco +6000
    Gael Monfils +9000
    Lleyton Hewitt +10500
    Fernando Gonzalez +12000
    Marcos Baghdatis +14000
    David Nalbandian +20000
    Gilles Simon +25000
    Tomas Berdych +27000
    Tommy Haas +28000
    Nicolas Almagro +30000
    Stanislas Wawrinka +38000
    Ivo Karlovic +39000
    Mikhail Youzhny +39000
    Richard Gasquet +40000
    David Ferrer +40000
    Sam Querrey +40000
    John Isner +44000
    Radek Stepanek +49000
    Tommy Robredo +52500
    James Blake +62500
    Janko Tipsarevic +63000
    Juan Carlos Ferrero +65000
    Philipp Kohlschreiber +65000
    Paul Henri Mathieu +100000
    Victor Hanescu +100000
    Dudi Sela +100000
    Victor Troicki +100000
    Jeremy Chardy +100000
    Feliciano Lopez +100000
    Philipp Petzschner +100000
    Julien Benneteau +100000
    Juan Monaco +100000
    Dmitry Tursunov +100000
    Jurgen Melzer +100000
    Fabrice Santoro +100000
    Benjamin Becker +100000
    Igor Andreev +100000
    Andreas Beck +100000
    Igor Kunitsyn +100000
    Albert Montanes +100000
    Ivan Ljubicic +100000
    Martin Vassallo Arguello +100000
    Mischa Zverev +100000
    Mardy Fish +100000
  • ji03
    SBR MVP
    • 06-27-09
    • 1144

    #2
    I would take a stab at Fernando Gonzalez at +12000
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    • iceminers26
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-13-08
      • 15600

      #3
      My 2 value plays

      Lleyton Hewitt +10500

      Andy Roddick +4200
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      • Boner_18
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-24-08
        • 8301

        #4
        James Blake, bet $100, he wins you get $62,500...
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        • Domestic
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-10-09
          • 6323

          #5
          Andy Roddick, very good chance this year around I reckon.
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          • mihaita666
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-13-09
            • 8596

            #6
            i think rafa nadal will recover from his injury, and he will make the final,
            Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
            2010-2011 season (soccer) :
            144-95-11
            NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
            17-12-1


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            • AlwaysDrawing
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-20-09
              • 657

              #7
              Originally posted by Boner_18
              James Blake, bet $100, he wins you get $62,500...
              James Blake is garbage. Betting against James Blake is highly +EV.

              I see value in Robin Soderling +4200. He's been playing really well, and has a chance to finally win a major in Australia.

              Djokovic always plays well on hard court, but there's little value at +700.

              I'd definitely lay off Nadal, whose knees might shorten his career permanently soon. He doesn't have the sick mobility he used to, and that's what made him great.

              Del Potro is overrated. +480 is a joke for him.

              There might be value in Federer +245. He wins 1/3 times for sure, though it obviously depends on the draw. Once the draw is released, I'd be more willing to bet him; I doubt the odds are going to narrow and you'll have a better idea of his chances.
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              • RobbReport
                SBR MVP
                • 09-22-09
                • 2042

                #8
                novak and Soderling maybe
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                • Fthenorm
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-20-07
                  • 712

                  #9
                  Perhaps some value in Tsonga at +3000. He can beat anyone on his day, especially on hard, and has had success in Melbourne. I see him winning a hardcourt slam in his career, maybe even before Murray.
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                  • Boner_18
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-24-08
                    • 8301

                    #10
                    Oh I agree always drawing, thats why I had the that you left out of the quote. I have been fading the J-Block for a year or more now. He is a chump choke artist.

                    I agree w/ the potential Roddick play and the anti Del Potro call... Can't get behind Nadal at all here though.
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                    • RobbReport
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-09
                      • 2042

                      #11
                      shit i didnt even notice drawings choices to maybe win...i agree Soderling seems like he's always improving and ready to give trouble to a big dog any day but sometimes he can outright suck. Djokovic has been playing great consistently and seems driven enough for the most part to go far.
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                      • mihaita666
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-13-09
                        • 8596

                        #12
                        what about the women ? anyone likes clijsters to win another big trophy ?
                        Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                        2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                        144-95-11
                        NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                        17-12-1


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                        • HeeeHAWWWW
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 06-13-08
                          • 5487

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AlwaysDrawing
                          I see value in Robin Soderling +4200. He's been playing really well, and has a chance to finally win a major in Australia.
                          Soderling hates humidity - Australia is pretty much the worst tournament imaginable for him, thus why he's only made it to the 2nd round a couple of times. The humidity is the same reason he skipped Miami three years in a row (and this year lost easily to Kendrick in the first round).

                          I agree he has the right attitude for possible majors though. The way he took the game to Federer in the US Open impressed me a lot - the first two sets he had no chance with the wind, impossible for a very flat hitter like him. When it died down he took the third set, and had set point in the tiebreak in the next to level it at 2-2.

                          Perhaps Wimbledon? His serve is truly nasty there, goes right through the court.
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                          • ClydeFontaine
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 11-09-09
                            • 375

                            #14
                            Henin a serious contender in the women. Any good price on Azarenka I will be on as well.
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                            • AlwaysDrawing
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 11-20-09
                              • 657

                              #15
                              Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
                              I agree Soderling has the right attitude for possible majors though. The way he took the game to Federer in the US Open impressed me a lot - the first two sets he had no chance with the wind, impossible for a very flat hitter like him. When it died down he took the third set, and had set point in the tiebreak in the next to level it at 2-2.

                              Perhaps Wimbledon? His serve is truly nasty there, goes right through the court.
                              I saw him play on an outside court there over the summer. He hit really well, and it was a wakeup call to me on his play.

                              The humidity may be a strike against him, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Robin go further given his improvement this year.
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                              • RobbReport
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-22-09
                                • 2042

                                #16
                                jan 18
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                                • mihaita666
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-13-09
                                  • 8596

                                  #17
                                  so henin return in this tourney ? nice
                                  Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                  2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                  144-95-11
                                  NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                  17-12-1


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                                  • mihaita666
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-13-09
                                    • 8596

                                    #18
                                    except for soederling, no player ourside top 4 has any serious chance....maybe del potro
                                    Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                    2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                    144-95-11
                                    NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                    17-12-1


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                                    • Tsonga
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-12-09
                                      • 2349

                                      #19
                                      I like Djoker, Cilic, Tsonga, Soderling
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                                      • iceminers26
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-13-08
                                        • 15600

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Boner_18
                                        James Blake, bet $100, he wins you get $62,500...
                                        I'm a value player and let me tell you, I would not even attempt this play, JB is the worst player on the tour IMO. He is great fade material.
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                                        • Fthenorm
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-20-07
                                          • 712

                                          #21
                                          Simon, Cilic and Stepanek could be of slight value at huge odds
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                                          • mihaita666
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-13-09
                                            • 8596

                                            #22
                                            cilic, maybe....but no more then semifinals, imo
                                            Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                            2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                            144-95-11
                                            NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                            17-12-1


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                                            • timbo46
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 11-30-09
                                              • 296

                                              #23
                                              Isner can do damage early....could easily reach quarterfinals.
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                                              • mihaita666
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-13-09
                                                • 8596

                                                #24
                                                hardcourt...maybe...isner will do a decent tournament, at least decent
                                                Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                                2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                                144-95-11
                                                NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                                17-12-1


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                                                • iceminers26
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-13-08
                                                  • 15600

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RobbReport
                                                  novak and Soderling maybe
                                                  Terrible plays, no chance in hell either of these players win, would not expect anything less from ya though.
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                                                  • RobbReport
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-22-09
                                                    • 2042

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                    Terrible plays, no chance in hell either of these players win, would not expect anything less from ya though.





                                                    Ice, stay off the firewater and nose candy(or is it rock?) then we can talk.



                                                    won't get into your points debt that might be below the belt at this point...


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                                                    • RobbReport
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-22-09
                                                      • 2042

                                                      #27
                                                      Novak certainly has a chance, you just hate him you said.
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                                                      • iceminers26
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-13-08
                                                        • 15600

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by RobbReport
                                                        Ice, stay off the firewater and nose candy(or is it rock?) then we can talk. won't get into your points debt that might be below the belt at this point...
                                                        Its nose candy, gonna be awhile until I get off it, so will get back to ya when we can talk.

                                                        You can take another shot at me about the point debt, I was stupid and its all on me.

                                                        And you are right, I do hate the Joker but in all honesty, I don't see him being competitive at the A.O.
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                                                        • iceminers26
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-13-08
                                                          • 15600

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by timbo46
                                                          Isner can do damage early....could easily reach quarterfinals.
                                                          Johny Is has the big serve, but it seems that he always gets dominated by the big names because he can't move that good after the serve. Plus you have to throw in the high likeliness that he might be injured at some point this early on in the season. I like watching his matches because of the big serve, but can't see him getting past the big names.
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                                                          • iceminers26
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-13-08
                                                            • 15600

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Tsonga
                                                            I like Djoker, Cilic, Tsonga, Soderling
                                                            You gotta think that Tsonga gets a big win this year at some point, this early on in the season might be his best shot.
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                                                            • iceminers26
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 10-13-08
                                                              • 15600

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ClydeFontaine
                                                              Henin a serious contender in the women. Any good price on Azarenka I will be on as well.
                                                              Like your thinking with Az, also like Dem at +1425, Stosur at +5100, and Venus at +775, locked those 3 plays in about a week ago and might add Az.
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                                                              • Tsonga
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-12-09
                                                                • 2349

                                                                #32
                                                                novak can win this for sure...will be interesting to see what roddick is like in January.
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                                                                • mihaita666
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-13-09
                                                                  • 8596

                                                                  #33
                                                                  well, nole needed a break, inorder to recover after a looooong seasson.....he will be at least in the semifinals
                                                                  Soccer record (2010) : 244-160-24
                                                                  2010-2011 season (soccer) :
                                                                  144-95-11
                                                                  NBA Record (2010-2011 season) :
                                                                  17-12-1


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                                                                  • Boner_18
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 08-24-08
                                                                    • 8301

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I think Djok def has a chance. He was playing some of his best tennis there at the end but was in need of a serious rest.

                                                                    As for the blake line apparently he does have some backers! It is down to around 25000
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                                                                    • iceminers26
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-13-08
                                                                      • 15600

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Would love to meet these people that have backed Blake, I don't care what price you gave me, I would not back him. You could tell me the entire field has an injury with the exception of him and I still wouldn't, he would find a way to lose it.

                                                                      As for the Joker, I'm sticking to it that he will not be in the mix at the Aussie Open.
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