CRAZYLou picks Roger Federer....The Monfils Play Looks Even Stronger Now

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:11 PM

I agree, however Fed needs this one to be the best ever. I don't see him losing to Monfils. He has a week serve and Fed can tear him up on the returns.

**The General** · 06-02-09, 07:14 PM

I'm pulling for Federer. He has struggled slightly, but found ways to win. If not for his prestige already he would be a no brainer getting this far and beating Nadal already in the last tourney.

**TurkzZ** · 06-02-09, 07:15 PM

Iv been following Monfils for quite some time now, i dont agree with the week serve, and he comes out with Aces at the right times. According to Sue Barker (bbc) Monfils uses a Roddik style of serve. Alot depends on the Fed forehand, if he plays anywhere close to his last 2/3 games, i dont see him beating a highly skilled Monfils with home advantage and confidence

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

Iv been following Monfils for quite some time now, i dont agree with the week serve, and he comes out with Aces at the right times. According to Sue Barker (bbc) Monfils uses a Roddik style of serve. Alot depends on the Fed forehand, if he plays anywhere close to his last 2/3 games, i dont see him beating a highly skilled Monfils with home advantage and confidence

Whats not to agree, its a fact.

**TurkzZ** · 06-02-09, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by pimike

Whats not to agree, its a fact.

hes won points on 77% of his 1st serve in this French Open...

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

hes won points on 77% of his 1st serve in this French Open...

Good luck on your play.

**TurkzZ** · 06-02-09, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by pimike

Good luck on your play.

we are here to all make money not be fans, you said he has a week serve which u stated as "fact" and i provided stats that state otherwise, whats the smart

post about. Explain your point

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

we are here to all make money not be fans, you said he has a week serve which u stated as "fact" and i provided stats that state otherwise, whats the smart

post about. Explain your point

He has lost against the top 5 almost everytime, and it was because of his serve. He has not played anyone in this tourney like a fed.

Get 70% of first serve over doesn't mean he has a good serve.

**The General** · 06-02-09, 07:29 PM

Monf seems awkward

**TurkzZ** · 06-02-09, 07:29 PM

Hes a much improved player from even last year while Fed is on a decline, its clear he isnt the distructive force he once was. I still dont agree with your 1st serve comment however his record vs the big players is a valid point.

I Just cant see the value in fed.

**mathdotcom** · 06-02-09, 07:32 PM

crazylou's pick of fed seriously makes me want to unload irresponsibly on Monfils. I am talking entire bankroll + freeplays + loyalty pts

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

Hes a much improved player from even last year while Fed is on a decline, its clear he isnt the distructive force he once was. I still dont agree with your 1st serve comment however his record vs the big players is a valid point.

I Just cant see the value in fed.

As stated before good Luck on your play. I just don't see it. Fed has been playing great before his last match. He seems to be back in form.

Decline, not sure what you mean about that. The top players like raffy beats him so he is on a decline?

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by mathdotcom

crazylou's pick of fed seriously makes me want to unload irresponsibly on Monfils. I am talking entire bankroll + freeplays + loyalty pts

Lou doesn't lose two in a row.

**accuscoresucks** · 06-02-09, 07:35 PM

lou is due for a rebound

**The General** · 06-02-09, 07:37 PM

Federer beat Nadal recently. Decline? I guess there is an argument for that, but he's still a force.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 06-02-09, 07:38 PM

Monf's serve has been terrific this year. He's 6th on the 2009 service games won % table - top are roddick/karlovic as always, then tsonga/federer (best servers of the top 10), then Nadal, then Monf. Pretty good going considering he's been injured a whole lot recently.

**The General** · 06-02-09, 07:41 PM

Does anyone root of Federer just for the feat at hand. career Grand slam and tying the slam record?

**pimike** · 06-02-09, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by The General

Does anyone root of Federer just for the feat at hand. career Grand slam and tying the slam record?

I am

**TurkzZ** · 06-02-09, 07:46 PM

Bet with your head not heart guys

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-02-09, 07:46 PM

Why did we need another thread about this?

**TurkzZ** · 06-02-09, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Why did we need another thread about this?

its more a thread just about tomorrows game, but when i saw Lous latest post givin out tips, i could not resist

**MartinBlank** · 06-02-09, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

hes won points on 77% of his 1st serve in this French Open...

Here's the problem with that stat.

Federer gets to serve too, and he is winning 80% of his first serves.

Also, Federer has won 115 points off of an opps first serve which was tops in the tourney until Soderling played today---Soderling has an additional match now under his belt than Fed.

Of all the players who made the quarters----Monfils won the fewest number of points against an Opps first serve.

Fed also has 51 aces compared to Monfils 38.

Fed also had the most points won on an opps second serve until the other two quarterfinal matches were played today. He is now 5th. Monfils is not among the top 20 in this category.

Good luck on your Monfils play though.

**pavyracer** · 06-02-09, 08:40 PM

Monfils wins in straight sets.

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-02-09, 08:50 PM

Originally posted by The General

Federer beat Nadal recently. Decline? I guess there is an argument for that, but he's still a force.

That one has a huge asterisk next to it. Nadal was playing a day after a three set, four and a half hour match against Djokovic. Fatigue played a large role.

**Matt Rain** · 06-02-09, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Monfils wins in straight sets.

**yisman** · 06-02-09, 10:56 PM

I'll look at the game again later, but I don't think you can auto-fade Lou on this one.

Looks like a no play to me.

Monfils is capable of the upset, but I'd want the line to move before I bet it.

**hels** · 06-02-09, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by pimike

He has lost against the top 5 almost everytime, and it was because of his serve. He has not played anyone in this tourney like a fed.

He's 22 years old, and been playing pro circuit since 18. Of course he's lost nearly every match against a top 5.

Federer didn't win a Slam until his 5th year as pro (beating unseeded Phillipousis in the finals), and had only made 2 Grand Slam quarterfinals in those 5 years!!!

Stats can be looked at in many ways so please don't say well he hasn't beaten many top 5's so he possibly can't win.... shit happens, monfils has the energy, motivation and crowd. Roger has hardly any of these.

**BatemanPatrickl** · 06-02-09, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

Bet with your head not hart guys

You mean "heart"? I have no issues with you posting your play but try to be a little less "dickish" next time and leave Lou out of it.

Post your play and shut up.

**EaglesPhan36** · 06-02-09, 11:51 PM

I'm with Yisman on this one. I liked other options better than putting money on Monfils which I still believe is the only straight up play to make in this one at the price. I can't see taking a shaky Federer at wherever the line is now, but I do believe his pedigree and desire to get a French Open title may carry him through. It'll be interested to see if Monfils defines the moment so to speak or lets the moment define him. If he comes with intensity and doesn't resort to his old ways of trying to hit big winners and making fantastic points all the time, he has a legit shot here. I'll enjoy watching and see how it unfolds. GL to everyone in this one as this is probably going to be the biggest bet match left in the French .. I really believe that.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 06-03-09, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by MartinBlank

Here's the problem with that stat.

Federer gets to serve too, and he is winning 80% of his first serves.

I think a case could be made that Federer has the best clay court serve in tennis.

**TurkzZ** · 06-03-09, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by BatemanPatrickl

You mean "heart"? I have no issues with you posting your play but try to be a little less "dickish" next time and leave Lou out of it.

Post your play and shut up.

if your not going to contribute anyting and pick holes in people missing out a letter in a word i tink its you who shoudh be less "dickish" and shut up.

**TurkzZ** · 06-03-09, 05:32 AM

back to the subject, i dont think ill be going big on monfils, i have a tiny bet on him to win the whole comp at 400/1 (uk odds)

Ill go 1 uni on 3 set win and medium to small on monfils win ml,

**SBR Lou** · 06-03-09, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by TurkzZ

Lou, i i gota say oyur crazy sayin Monfils wont have Home Cort Advantage, if you have watched a Mondils game you would of realised its a Soccer Style Atmosphear in the Stadium.

Well, he lost in straight sets in that soccer style atmosphere.

**pimike** · 06-03-09, 11:29 AM

I told you guys don't mess with LOU.

NICE HIT PAL, we nailed it