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  • davidg123
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-13-15
    • 261

    #1
    List of "Non-Bettable" Players
    I think, in light of last night, we need to get a list on here of all of the players who are "non-bettable". I.e. flaky and volatile with the potential to just throw a game (and/or match) when things aren't going his way.

    I'll start the list with:
    Fabio Fognini
    Pablo Cuevas
    Ernests Gulbis
  • Rod1010
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-01-10
    • 6208

    #2
    jerzy janowicz
    mikhail youznhy
    gilles simon
    martin klizan
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    • HeeeHAWWWW
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 06-13-08
      • 5487

      #3
      If they are flaky/volatile, why would you throw away this information by refusing to bet them? Use that information to select your bets.
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      • davidg123
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-13-15
        • 261

        #4
        Originally posted by HeeeHAWWWW
        If they are flaky/volatile, why would you throw away this information by refusing to bet them? Use that information to select your bets.
        Well, just in terms of "I'm really tempted to pick this player here, they look like a great play", but if they are on this list, you cannot succumb to that temptation.
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        • BennyBigNuts
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-16-12
          • 8700

          #5
          Almagro
          Isner- never any value and can lose to anyone on any given day if he isn't serving
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          • BennyBigNuts
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-16-12
            • 8700

            #6
            Originally posted by BennyBigNuts
            Almagro
            Isner- never any value and can lose to anyone on any given day if he isn't serving
            Oh and dolgopolov
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            • Stokes36
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-17-13
              • 494

              #7
              I think Wawa deserves to be on this list. You never really know whether he cares about a match until it's too late. lol

              Both ways
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              • Sumalia
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-13-12
                • 345

                #8
                Matosevich,Seppi,Lu Y H,Sijsling,Mona Bartel
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                • JC1186
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-21-14
                  • 1070

                  #9
                  I agree with all players so far except for Simon.

                  He shouldn't be on the list.

                  He's a consistent money maker for me. You always know what you're going to get. If you know his game you know how often you can make money backing him against inconsistent players.
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                  • Honeybadger44
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-03-14
                    • 1675

                    #10
                    I don't really agree with having blacklist for tennis players. Of course there are many players which cannot be trusted with laying juice or in some other situations, but that is completely different thing from avoiding every match, which is involving them. You simply have to evaluate every case separately and make a good decision.
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                    • davidg123
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 02-13-15
                      • 261

                      #11
                      Y'all brought up some more great ones. For me, the top six (in no paticular order) are Gulbis, Dolgopolov, Matosevic, Fognini, Cuevas, and (I forgot this one) Dustin Brown!!!
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                      • slayer14
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-12-13
                        • 22019

                        #12
                        you guys forget Blaz Rola
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                        • EaglesPhan36
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 12-06-06
                          • 71662

                          #13
                          Dolgopolov is #1 because you can't guess right week to week whether to fade or follow. Most others as HeeHaww mentioned, might be "unbackable" to some, but that means they might be gold to fade.
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                          • kenz
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-09-12
                            • 4879

                            #14
                            Frenchies
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                            • JohnnyRudeboy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-30-09
                              • 1646

                              #15
                              Tomic is now on my personal list
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                              • Tmuston Beltics
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-14-13
                                • 1253

                                #16
                                Gulbis, Anderson, Isner, Dolgopolov, Fognini, Verdasco, Chardy, Klizan, Querrey, Becker, Janowicz, Youzhny, Bolelli, Sock, Stakhovsky, Pospisil, Lu, Istomin, Stepanek, Soeda, Lacko, Almagro, Brown, Tomic, Matosevic

                                And everyone in WTA
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                                • matt1216
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-27-11
                                  • 14683

                                  #17
                                  It's Tennis, you can't trust anyone.... Dolgo can rip it up when he wants and lose when he wants... Simon is consistant but I watched him lose to Falla 6-2 6-1 1 year half ago. Anyone can be shit on any given day. It's all about the court speed and how each player responds to the speed/bounce
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                                  • SirtySree
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-19-13
                                    • 2370

                                    #18
                                    Some of these players are being chucked on here after just one bad game.

                                    Cuevas has been a money making machine in the last year and even against Nadal a bunch of ppl cashed with him taking the 1st set. First time I've actually seen him self-destruct but then again, it was 5 mins off being the latest match ever played in a 3 setter.

                                    Giles Simon shouldn't even be considered on this list wtf.

                                    Also by the way, Fognini is a money maker if you know when to pick your spots. Yes, you will get screwed over from time to time but when on, he's one of the best clay courters.
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                                    • GoBlue77
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-20-11
                                      • 9166

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Tmuston Beltics
                                      Gulbis, Anderson, Isner, Dolgopolov, Fognini, Verdasco, Chardy, Klizan, Querrey, Becker, Janowicz, Youzhny, Bolelli, Sock, Stakhovsky, Pospisil, Lu, Istomin, Stepanek, Soeda, Lacko, Almagro, Brown, Tomic, Matosevic

                                      And everyone in WTA
                                      thats a solid list. i could prob add another 10 if i sat down and thought about it.
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                                      • sluggy1616
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-21-13
                                        • 1317

                                        #20
                                        Igor sjisling, gaba garbage
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                                        • Demonata
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 07-12-11
                                          • 25829

                                          #21
                                          Samuel Groth.
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                                          • juanquintero
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 11-29-14
                                            • 222

                                            #22
                                            I think that the names that are forgotten so far are : Donald Young, Kohlschreiber, Berdych
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                                            • Tmuston Beltics
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-14-13
                                              • 1253

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Tmuston Beltics
                                              Gulbis, Anderson, Isner, Dolgopolov, Fognini, Verdasco, Chardy, Klizan, Querrey, Becker, Janowicz, Youzhny, Bolelli, Sock, Stakhovsky, Pospisil, Lu, Istomin, Stepanek, Soeda, Lacko, Almagro, Brown, Tomic, Matosevic

                                              And everyone in WTA
                                              Add Sijsling, Young in the list. Why did I even think he could win the set..
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                                              • girlscoutcookies
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 12-19-14
                                                • 765

                                                #24
                                                ivan dodig
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                                                • kenz
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-09-12
                                                  • 4879

                                                  #25
                                                  Young
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                                                  • Vinnie Paz
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-27-12
                                                    • 12177

                                                    #26
                                                    Donnie youngs been solid this year regardless of last match.

                                                    Davydenko a big time scum bag.
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                                                    • Vinnie Paz
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-27-12
                                                      • 12177

                                                      #27
                                                      The ATP launched a match fixing investigation of Davydenko's match against Martín Vassallo Argüello in Sopot of 2 August 2007, after several large bets were placed at an online British gambling company, Betfair, in Argüello's favour after Davydenko had won the first set 6–2. Davydenko withdrew from the match during the third set with a foot injury.[15] Although Davydenko had suffered three first-round defeats in his last three tournaments, was injured in an earlier-round match, and showed signs of injury in the second set,[16] it did not make sense to Betfair that such a heavy betting volume would go in Argüello's direction at that point of time in the match. Per its agreement with the ATP, Betfair notified the Tour.[17][18] It has since been revealed that nine people based in Russia had bet US$1.5M on Davydenko losing while two unknown people would gain US$6M from the loss.[19][20] A total of $7M was wagered on the match, ten times the usual amount.[21] Due to these irregularities, all bets were voided. On September 11, 2008, Davydenko, along with Arguello, were cleared of any involvement in match-fixing. The inquiry, which lasted over a year, was the longest ever held into match-fixing in tennis.[21]

                                                      Further controversy also surrounded Davydenko after one of his matches at St. Petersburg Open in October 2007. During his 1–6, 7–5, 6–1 defeat by Marin Čilić, he was given a code violation by umpire Jean-Philippe Dercq for not giving his best effort. He was later fined $2000 (£987) by the ATP, but the fine was rescinded upon appeal.[22] The following week, he lost 6–2, 6–2 to Marcos Baghdatis at the Paris Masters. This generated some controversy, as Davydenko was cautioned by the umpire to do his best during the match.[23]
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                                                      • felix_felicus7
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 04-19-13
                                                        • 175

                                                        #28
                                                        Maybe I missed it but I can't believe we've had 26 posts without Benoit Paire mentioned??!!
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                                                        • JohnnyRudeboy
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-30-09
                                                          • 1646

                                                          #29
                                                          He falls under the global category of "French"
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                                                          • Cappinpicks
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-11-10
                                                            • 14986

                                                            #30
                                                            just add everybody while you're at it... simon is the only trustworthy player and baghdatis
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                                                            • KushMoney
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 07-11-11
                                                              • 658

                                                              #31
                                                              Take the underdogs in each and all matches involving those few listed players. Bet small. Profitable system long-term.
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                                                              • KushMoney
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-11-11
                                                                • 658

                                                                #32
                                                                Avoid the players listed ABOVE when they are listed between -140 and -200 Odds.





                                                                In fact, FADE.
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                                                                • Chaz22
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-30-10
                                                                  • 1152

                                                                  #33
                                                                  so everyone except for Djokovic and Federer?

                                                                  the thread should be named "Bettable players" instead....
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                                                                  • SirtySree
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-19-13
                                                                    • 2370

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Going by the way some ppl are calling a player non-bettable, Federer lost to Seppi so he is unbettable. Novak lost to Karlovic = unbettable.
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                                                                    • KushMoney
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 07-11-11
                                                                      • 658

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Chaz22
                                                                      so everyone except for Djokovic and Federer?

                                                                      the thread should be named "Bettable players" instead....
                                                                      There are a few other good players to bet on.

                                                                      Wawrinka
                                                                      Krajicek
                                                                      Kokkinakis
                                                                      Bolelli
                                                                      Troiki
                                                                      Lu

                                                                      In recent memory these players have came through for me. Last year, Goffin, Serena, Wozniacki when she didn't play Serena, etc.



                                                                      PS: Screw Fognini.. cost me thousands over the years. That f'ker!
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