US Open Final Picks---- Cilic VS Nishikori

[brodie]

state who you are on and why...

I still haven't made my decision yet, but everything inside of me wants to take Cilic from a skill standpoint, but it just makes more sense for Nishi to take home the title.

Toughest match of the tournament right here.

Interested to hear your thoughts

[poet]

Not tough at all. Nish is great value.

[brodie]

Not tough at all. Nish is great value.

aren't you the guy that just lost a big play and said you were retiring?

[Pippen aint easy]

Nishi is 3-2 head to head vs Cilic on hard court and 5-2 overall. IMO Cilic simply played in the zone against Federer. He was putting in first serves and kept unforced errors to a minimum...really excellent tennis. Don't expect him to play like that 2 matches in a row. If his first serve is shakey at all Nishikori will be able to break throughout the match. Guy is a backboard and has improved mental toughness with Chang as his coach. Small play for me, but I'll be on Nishi. I believe his confidence will be high given the opponents he has beat to get to the final and due to his overall record against Cilic. I expect Cilic to play like he did vs Simon.

[EaglesPhan36]

All the talking heads and writers seem to be on Cilic.

[rmx]

i think cilic wins

[frugalgambler]

5 sets

[brodie]

5 sets

i have a big bet on the over3.5 and the over 40.5 games already... waiting to make the decision on who I want to back. Right now I'm leaning Nishikori but can't pull the trigger against Cilic yet.

[Hardcoar]

I'm staying the f*ck away from this one, but here it is:

I really wish Nishikori will win, but I really think Cilic will win.

If Cilic can replicate the match of his life against Federer tonight, I have a hard time seeing Japmaster being able to counter.

[brodie]

I'm staying the f*ck away from this one

it's a grand slam final with solid odds both ways... how can a true fan/bettor of tennis lay off of this one?

I think I've decided to place my faith in Nishikori, but I'm going to play some ball to clear my head and come back at like 430ish and see what the line has done before I make my decision.

[Snowball]

feel that federer was not himself - had his big match vs monfils, then had problems
in the wind - and during the day - but more the wind and he looked sick.
nishikori convinced me this tournament - what is cilic's main weapon especially lately
its his serve... which kei has demonstrated ability to create volleys as a returner
i am more impressed with kei's competitions this tournament than cilic's..
feel kei has the edge once the rallies go past 10. the more mobile the more creative
he's also got the h2h on his side
so i favor nishi - he'll just have to be at 95%+ level
which has been unpredictable for the mens games lately
can't do nothing about that

[Hardcoar]

it's a grand slam final with solid odds both ways... how can a true fan/bettor of tennis lay off of this one?

I think I've decided to place my faith in Nishikori, but I'm going to play some ball to clear my head and come back at like 430ish and see what the line has done before I make my decision.

Because odds are never "solid both ways". Besides, if anything not betting on this match can only be a good sign as far as betting is concerned.

[brodie]

Because odds are never "solid both ways". Besides, if anything not betting on this match can only be a good sign as far as betting is concerned.

solid both ways meaning no matter who you planned on backing there is a solid return (no big favorite).

not betting on this match proves nothing but how big of a puss you are

[sluggy1616]

I have 1 unit on nishi based on his play in this tourney and opponents he beat. It is only 1 unit cause this is a grand slam final and you just never know what might be happening in these guys head given the huge moment.

[yisman]

Nishi is 3-2 head to head vs Cilic on hard court and 5-2 overall. IMO Cilic simply played in the zone against Federer. He was putting in first serves and kept unforced errors to a minimum...really excellent tennis. Don't expect him to play like that 2 matches in a row.

He was in the zone against Berdych as well. 19 aces! Was 5/8 on break points. 84% of first serve points won.

Form:

they each had an opponent retire in the second set.

Cilic has dropped 4 sets, Nishikori 5.

[poet]

aren't you the guy that just lost a big play and said you were retiring?

Yeah. I'm retired Brodie. But if I was still playing I'd hammer Nishi for ten units. He wins this match 5 out of 6 time imo and the odds are absurd. Stan destroyed Clic a couple of weeks ago, Nish will too.

[Snowball]

Steve G also ordering sushi tonight.

[Hardcoar]

solid both ways meaning no matter who you planned on backing there is a solid return (no big favorite).

not betting on this match proves nothing but how big of a puss you are

[Bumdeal]

Nishi. Rode him this far, why stop now?

[EaglesPhan36]

The thing I considered in taking Kei: better movement + return than Cilic has seen all tourney. Almost every person who likes Cilic harped on the dominant serve. Rightfully so, but he's also not played a solid returner/defender. Simon was closest, but not even close to what Nishikori brings in those categories. Berdych was pathetic & Roger's movement was not solid as it had been. For me, Cilic will win a high % of first serves when he gets them in, but the difference likely for whomever wins today - 2nd serve. Errors of course large too.

[MiDNiTe]

nishi's serve going to get him into alot of trouble today

[brodie]

Decided to take Kei. Too many reasons to list but aside from tennis I think the crowd will be behind Kei 100%... of course Marin will get some cheers when he wins a long rally or serves up an ace, but the general emotion of the crowd will be behind the Jap. Also feel like Nishikori winning this title is better for the sport than Marin winning. I wanted to take Djok BIG in the final so I might as well take the guy that beat him.

I believe in you Kei.

Final prediction is Marin going up 2 sets to love then Kei comes back to win the tourney to cap his amazing run.

[yisman]

over 9.5 first set -150
over 9.5 second set -160

nish under 21.5 -110
cilic 3-1 and 3-2
nish 3-2

all at DSI

#1) Sport : ATP Match Betting Tennis
Selection : K. Nishikori/M. Cilic 9/8/2014 2:05PM - (PST) Total Points OVER 3½ -260 for Game

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[brodie]

nishi's serve going to get him into alot of trouble today

Yep this is my one fear. Cilic was returning with such speed and depth against Federer. Nishi will be easier to break than Cilic, but I see a lot of close games on both men's serves.

[Hardcoar]

The thing I considered in taking Kei: better movement + return than Cilic has seen all tourney. Almost every person who likes Cilic harped on the dominant serve. Rightfully so, but he's also not played a solid returner/defender. Simon was closest, but not even close to what Nishikori brings in those categories. Berdych was pathetic & Roger's movement was not solid as it had been. For me, Cilic will win a high % of first serves when he gets them in, but the difference likely for whomever wins today - 2nd serve. Errors of course large too.

Simon was closest, but Cilic played far better against Federror than he did against anyone else. In fact, to the best of my memory, that was by far the best match I have ever seen Cilic play. That's why there is a high degree of uncertainty, and that's why I am worried he might win today.

[EaglesPhan36]

Kei's serve also is not that bad. He may not win as many freebies as Cilic, but if he gets the 1st serve in - he is effective. Like anyone, if it's too many 2nds then yes, he will get worked.

[brodie]

Kei's serve also is not that bad. He may not win as many freebies as Cilic, but if he gets the 1st serve in - he is effective. Like anyone, if it's too many 2nds then yes, he will get worked.

cilic's 2nd serve is significantly more efficient than kei's

[yisman]

now need kei to get a break back, my over 9.5 not looking good

[MiDNiTe]

lets go cilic cmon

[kenz]

K looks like shit ATM

[w@lt]

Buurr.. I'm gettin Cili

[brodie]

Buurr.. I'm gettin Cili

[yisman]

damn, seems I forgot to bet kei under 21.5 games won

[MiDNiTe]

go for the kill cilic

[MiDNiTe]

eat him alive marin