Why is Federer @2.50 can someone explain?

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  • kenz
    SBR MVP
    • 12-09-12
    • 4879

    #1
    Why is Federer @2.50 can someone explain?
    I am lost on this one
  • Bogdan C.
    SBR Rookie
    • 07-05-14
    • 2

    #2
    Bookies know better. Anyway, there is some value on Federer i think but not sure.
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    • sbavi
      SBR Hustler
      • 05-09-13
      • 99

      #3
      I'm surprised as well.Federer should be in the 1.80 range in my opinion.But,i guess bookies know better than me.Anyways i'll be backing Fed tomorrow.
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      • Spinny
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-28-14
        • 165

        #4
        Also on fed, too many think his old and washed up lol which would reflect in the line. Plus also the fact that his ranked lower now
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        • Dr.Gonzo
          SBR MVP
          • 12-05-09
          • 4660

          #5
          Antepost betting is another factor, bookmakers can't get price profiles out of their minds.
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          • irlandais_noir
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-02-10
            • 812

            #6
            Both players will want this badly. Fed as it may be his last GS final. Djok because he has lost his past few GS finals.

            Really tough to call, but going to go with heart over head: Allez Roger!
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            • Spinny
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-28-14
              • 165

              #7
              I agree very hard to pick however I think grass suits Fed a tad more
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              • AimePor
                SBR Hustler
                • 06-14-14
                • 72

                #8
                Know Fed is good on grass but i guess this time the bookmakers know better and i am also for Djokovic
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                • Xis
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 07-02-14
                  • 4

                  #9
                  I think this is pretty much a 50/50 match or more like 55/45 to Federer so from betting point of view Fed is an easy pick, the value is on him.

                  Grass is Djokovic's weakest surface and Fed's best surface and he beat Djoker pretty easily here in 2012. Even when Djoker was at his absolute best in 2011 Fed beat him at the French (when Djoker had been dominant on clay) and was up two sets at the USO (Djoker's best surface). Federer's always been by far the better grass courter of the two and he's looked sharp here whereas Djokovic has looked uncomfortable and struggled against Stepanek, Cilic and Dimitrov.

                  I have 10 units (peanuts) @2.50 on Federer
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                  • Spinny
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-28-14
                    • 165

                    #10
                    fed likes playing him, he hates nadal. They are attracting money on joker imo
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                    • matt1216
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-27-11
                      • 14683

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sbavi
                      I'm surprised as well.Federer should be in the 1.80 range in my opinion.But,i guess bookies know better than me.Anyways i'll be backing Fed tomorrow.
                      1.80 lol
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                      • matt1216
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-27-11
                        • 14683

                        #12
                        Everybody here like Fed,,, might want to wake up a bit. No doubt Feds on his best surface but he pretty much got here by default. Raonic put up the worst showing of his entire career. Djokovic beat a Dmitrov who was on fire, and is pretty much a replica of Federer's game. Djokovic will be ready on the return game, where as federer hasn't had the practice due to the lack of talent he has faced here. Fed to take a set but Djoker will win.. I don't know what people are smoking in here, more like a 60/40 match. The books know this. They toss out a line like 2.50 knowing very well that there fishing.
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                        • Simon Gruber
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-02-13
                          • 2342

                          #13
                          Originally posted by matt1216
                          Everybody here like Fed,,, might want to wake up a bit. No doubt Feds on his best surface but he pretty much got here by default. Raonic put up the worst showing of his entire career. Djokovic beat a Dmitrov who was on fire, and is pretty much a replica of Federer's game. Djokovic will be ready on the return game, where as federer hasn't had the practice due to the lack of talent he has faced here. Fed to take a set but Djoker will win.. I don't know what people are smoking in here, more like a 60/40 match. The books know this. They toss out a line like 2.50 knowing very well that there fishing.
                          What do you think of Fed Over 3' + Bryans -450 @ 1.7?
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                          • SirtySree
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-19-13
                            • 2370

                            #14
                            Originally posted by matt1216
                            Everybody here like Fed,,, might want to wake up a bit. No doubt Feds on his best surface but he pretty much got here by default. Raonic put up the worst showing of his entire career. Djokovic beat a Dmitrov who was on fire, and is pretty much a replica of Federer's game. Djokovic will be ready on the return game, where as federer hasn't had the practice due to the lack of talent he has faced here. Fed to take a set but Djoker will win.. I don't know what people are smoking in here, more like a 60/40 match. The books know this. They toss out a line like 2.50 knowing very well that there fishing.
                            Never really understood why ppl compare Fed with Dimi. Yea both have a big single handed backhand but the rest of their game are different. U might as well call every one handed backhand players Federer if thats the case.

                            As for Fed not having practice or watever nonsense, he already bet Novak earlier this year by going thru scrubs first.

                            Anyone who is super confident backing either player here is kidding themselves but the thing is someone has to win and there will be a bunch of self-proclaimed tennis gurus after this match.
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                            • kenz
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-09-12
                              • 4879

                              #15
                              matt Federer and Dimi has nothing to do with each other except one is called baby Fed.

                              Fed's serve + confidence + BHs + FHs + net approaching + opponent's fear of him on grass tenfolds Dimi's
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                              • frugalgambler
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-30-13
                                • 3418

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Bogdan C.
                                Bookies know better. Anyway, there is some value on Federer i think but not sure.
                                Dude. If they knew everything, they would not be offering Kvitova 2-0 @+190. My guess is that lots of punters are backing Djoker because he is higher-ranked and Feds is getting long in the tooth.
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                                • kenz
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-09-12
                                  • 4879

                                  #17
                                  I remember 2012 Wimbledon Fed was a class above. Federer was @3

                                  Now the margin seems to be even less between them on grass as Federer plays great and Novak not so good +we have a grass example in 2012. I see many people are also confused but would like an explanation more than "bookies should know/know better". What exactly makes Novak @1.60 on grass against Federer, if thats not a trap or Novak being number #1 or antepost prices? My fav before this game is Federer, a lot better player on grass, and I was expecting @1.90 on Federer
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                                  • matt1216
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 10-27-11
                                    • 14683

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SirtySree
                                    Never really understood why ppl compare Fed with Dimi. Yea both have a big single handed backhand but the rest of their game are different. U might as well call every one handed backhand players Federer if thats the case.

                                    As for Fed not having practice or watever nonsense, he already bet Novak earlier this year by going thru scrubs first.

                                    Anyone who is super confident backing either player here is kidding themselves but the thing is someone has to win and there will be a bunch of self-proclaimed tennis gurus after this match.
                                    Why? If the books honestly thought Federer was going to win they wouldn't have opened around 2.50 odds. It would have been closer to 2.00 to get big money on Djoker. Djoker won destroy Fed but it should be done in 4 sets or less.

                                    Fed beat Djoker this year? Lol yup he also blew a 1 set least and lost to djoker. Both matches djoker was out of form. I can't even believe your comparing djoker from the beginning of the year to now.... You know he's gonna be pissed that he hasn't won a slam title in awhile now. Plus if djoker wins this he becomes #1... This is probably my most confident pick this year.
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                                    • matt1216
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-27-11
                                      • 14683

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by kenz
                                      I remember 2012 Wimbledon Fed was a class above. Federer was @3

                                      Now the margin seems to be even less between them on grass as Federer plays great and Novak not so good +we have a grass example in 2012. I see many people are also confused but would like an explanation more than "bookies should know/know better". What exactly makes Novak @1.60 on grass against Federer?
                                      I'm telling you dude, there preparing for a djoker win.. Djoker should be around 1.75
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                                      • sbavi
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 05-09-13
                                        • 99

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by matt1216
                                        1.80 lol
                                        Yes,i really feel Fed should be around 1.80 here.We'll see how things turn out tomorrow.
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                                        • matt1216
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 10-27-11
                                          • 14683

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Simon Gruber
                                          What do you think of Fed Over 3' + Bryans -450 @ 1.7?
                                          Yup, I did say I like Fed to win a set, heck possibly two. I just don't think Fed is clutch enough to win 3 sets off djoker anymore.

                                          I wouldn't touch the bryan brothers today. Pospisil/sock or no play
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                                          • kenz
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-09-12
                                            • 4879

                                            #22
                                            Yeah Djoker might win as prices look trappy. But why? Fed looks like an obvious play even before the prices and now it is more tempting. But there should be something I am missing. What exactly is it?
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                                            • matt1216
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-27-11
                                              • 14683

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by kenz
                                              Yeah Djoker might win as prices look trappy. But why? Fed looks like an obvious play even before the prices and now it is more tempting. But there should be something I am missing. What exactly is it?
                                              The price, books are trolling. Like they just did with Bouchard.
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                                              • sluggy1616
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-21-13
                                                • 1317

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by kenz
                                                Yeah Djoker might win as prices look trappy. But why? Fed looks like an obvious play even before the prices and now it is more tempting. But there should be something I am missing. What exactly is it?
                                                Fed has looked better this week.

                                                Joker has shown in the past that he can look crappy and then pull great tennis out of a hat.

                                                If both players are able to play at their best who wins the match? I would say Joker would. That is my thought on the pricing. If Joker had been playing well all week he would be at @1.50 odds.
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                                                • tipsadontlikehim
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-14-13
                                                  • 2569

                                                  #25
                                                  Think about it, Novak has been favourite of every grand slam since Wimbledon 2013 and he won none of them, lol
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                                                  • Hardcoar
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-17-13
                                                    • 15606

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by tipsadontlikehim
                                                    Think about it, Novak has been favourite of every grand slam since Wimbledon 2013 and he won none of them, lol
                                                    Has he now?
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                                                    • tipsadontlikehim
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 11-14-13
                                                      • 2569

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                      Has he now?
                                                      it's time for him to win one definitely, he's stuck at 6 ...a while ago i thought he could win 12 before he retires, he still can but time is running out
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                                                      • Hardcoar
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-17-13
                                                        • 15606

                                                        #28
                                                        Has he been favorite for every grand slam since then, now?
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                                                        • Cappinpicks
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                                                          • 03-11-10
                                                          • 14986

                                                          #29
                                                          Seems too easy to take novak then again people dikk ride Federror like no other
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                                                          • shari91
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-23-10
                                                            • 32661

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                            Has he been favorite for every grand slam since then, now?
                                                            Aussie Open yes, French yes, US Open yes, Wimbledon yes. Upcoming US Open yes and even next year's Aussie Open is already up at Sportsbet and yes he's the favourite there too http://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting/...ustralian-open
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                                                            • tipsadontlikehim
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-14-13
                                                              • 2569

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                              Has he been favorite for every grand slam since then, now?
                                                              he was fav of wimbledon 2013 + US open + AO 14 and even the FO and yes he was favourite of Wimbledon this year again.

                                                              thanks shari, i'm not surprised he's the fav of the US open
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                                                              • Hardcoar
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-17-13
                                                                • 15606

                                                                #32
                                                                Oh that's right... he actually (ridiculously) was the favorite of FO. I love how he was actually the underdog.


                                                                All credit to you though!
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                                                                • shari91
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 02-23-10
                                                                  • 32661

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                                  Oh that's right... he actually (ridiculously) was the favorite of FO. I love how he was actually the underdog.


                                                                  All credit to you though!
                                                                  Well to be fair I know Betfair (who I look to the most as punters create the markets) were basing a lot off of him beating Nadal in Rome right before. But then he ends up as the dog in the Final so that just shows how much the market rates Nadal if he gets to a clay Final. I'll never see Nadal as anything but the fave at that point. Don't care who he's playing, what happened beforehand. If he's in a clay final, he's my favourite. If I can get + odds on him, all the better. At least if I lose I didn't eat chalk although I don't tend to bet finals anyway.
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                                                                  • jjgold
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                                    • 388179

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Fed should be -120

                                                                    Joker was played even in semis, anyone could of won that match

                                                                    FED has toyed with everyone

                                                                    The only thing going against Fed is the tight factor, he could choke

                                                                    Joker does not choke
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                                                                    • HeeeHAWWWW
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                                                                      • 06-13-08
                                                                      • 5487

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Very stable market here, it's barely moved since opening. Pinnacle limits up to $100k.

                                                                      Slam finals the last ten years: favourites have won 34 of 42, for +13.5% RoI.
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