E Bouchard v S Halep

[Spinny]

Who's everyone on?

I know nothing about the WTA I only follow the mens however I have a $500 free bet and to me Bouchard seems good value?

[kenz]

I think dlweaver will have a 20K bet on this coming

I am on the same boat, avoid WTA as much as possible as these girls dont actually play "tennis", but I think over 21 @1.70 and over 22 @1.91 are good bets but I did not watch Halep this week at all.

Another good option is livebetting. The moment I saw the shot placement percentage's of Bouchard and Kerber, Bouchard had 38% of her shots way before the baseline whereas Kerber was 90% baseline, I knew Bouchard could not lose.

[matt1216]

Let me take a look fellas at some befor and after numbers

[matt1216]

Fck I wanna hit Bouchard but the line went from + 2 games Bouchard 1.87 to + 3 games Bouchard 1.83. I think Bouchard can win this match SU.... From what I saw out of Lisicki, Lisicki woulda beat her if it wasn't for her hurting shoulder flaring up

[Spinny]

the problem is the girls are always so unreliable

which is why murray should now play in the WTA

[kenz]

If Kerber was not so dumb yesterday could go to over. I feel this game is over written all over

[Spinny]

there last match went 3 sets so over should be safe you would think. I hate over/under betting though

[frugalgambler]

the problem is the girls are always so unreliable

which is why murray should now play in the WTA

Dude, wtf does that mean ? Unreliable, my ass. These two made the semis of all three GSs this year. I think only Djoker did that this year on the men's side.

Lots of folks just have no clue about women's game and they feel like it is OK to say that "these b.tches are unreliable" as an excuse for their losses. Look in the mirror.

[Spinny]

have seen girls choke so many times, these two may be more solid. Like I said I don't follow the girls matches so I wouldn't know, however in the past have seen a tonne come and go not many seem to hold rankings for long

[frugalgambler]

have seen girls choke so many times, these two may be more solid. Like I said I don't follow the girls matches so I wouldn't know, however in the past have seen a tonne come and go not many seem to hold rankings for long

Just say, "I have no idea what I am talking about but I feel like posting anyway".

[kenz]

I dont enjoy what they are playing and it is not tennis. As Women's basketball is not really basketball too.

Halep and Bouchard are more reliable girls, but this is still WTA.

I think I will buy me some over for this

[frugalgambler]

I do not care about your opinion at all. WNBA is a lot closer to real-life basketball than NBA which is dominated by goddamn alien-looking creatures.

[kenz]

I do not care about your opinion at all. WNBA is a lot closer to real-life basketball than NBA which is dominated by goddamn alien-looking creatures.

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[Hardcoar]

I do not care about your opinion at all. WNBA is a lot closer to real-life basketball than NBA which is dominated by goddamn alien-looking creatures.

Blacks?

[kenz]

You should never bet at night

In a few minutes my total risk on Federer - Raonic game totaled $1250. I like all my bets but damn thats a big risk

[frugalgambler]

Blacks?

Whites too. Dudes like Plumlee or even Kirilenko for that matter. Normal folks cannot do what they do on the floor. WNBA has only one alien: Griner.

[Spinny]

You should never bet at night

In a few minutes my total risk on Federer - Raonic game totaled $1250. I like all my bets but damn thats a big risk

Yeah I won fair bit so far and pulled out a heap just incase things started going the wrong way i.e like last nights plays... so now I'm hungry to win more haha

[kenz]

Women dont play "basketball" and "tennis". They are athletes though, showing respect where it is due

[SirtySree]

Line movement towards Halep although not a massive one.

Also in terms of women being more inconsistent in tennis and choking, it is pretty much a fact. Open up bet365 one night as they have the most matches available and just watch how many matches where they are leading 5-1 or 5-2 in the deciding set and choke. I witnessed 3 in the space of a few hours this time last night, Kerkhove down 5-1, Mitu down 4-1, and Kozlova down 5-1.

Also Bouchard outside of grand slams loses to bad opponents regularly. Probably a bit more then some of the others around her level/ability.

[SirtySree]

In fact, Oudin is doing it right now. Up 5-1 in deciding set up double break and now back on serve.

[frugalgambler]

Line movement towards Halep although not a massive one.

Also in terms of women being more inconsistent in tennis and choking, it is pretty much a fact. Open up bet365 one night as they have the most matches available and just watch how many matches where they are leading 5-1 or 5-2 in the deciding set and choke. I witnessed 3 in the space of a few hours this time last night, Kerkhove down 5-1, Mitu down 4-1, and Kozlova down 5-1.

Also Bouchard outside of grand slams loses to bad opponents regularly. Probably a bit more then some of the others around her level/ability.

The "chokiness" is just another variable and the odds reflect that. Plus you are talking about players on the fringes of top-100. Once you get closer to top 20 that does not happen as much. The talent on the men's side is much deeper but once you approach top-15/top-10 the difference in consistency between men and women is not that significant. I can turn this around and say that up until this year, men's tennis has been too dominated by the big four and that was boring like hell.

[frugalgambler]

Yeah, Halep is being pounded. Makes me feel like taking Bouchard.

[SirtySree]

The "chokiness" is just another variable and the odds reflect that. Plus you are talking about players on the fringes of top-100. Once you get closer to top 20 that does not happen as much. The talent on the men's side is much deeper but once you approach top-15/top-10 the difference in consistency between men and women is not that significant. I can turn this around and say that up until this year, men's tennis has been too dominated by the big four and that was boring like hell.

To be honest, I find just as many chokes from top 20 women as fringe 100's. Just so happens all my examples are 100's players cause Wimbledon is in the late stages so all other tourneys are those fringe 100's players and no tourney's with any top 20ish players on. Also the fact that top 20's mean theres only a sample of 20 players whereas fringe 100's is a much larger sample so kind of uneven to try and compare the two.

I agree with your last statement but I don't exactly see how that has anything to do with anything.

[SirtySree]

Typical WTA match between Oudin and Pereira right now. Oudin up 5-1 and chokes to be behind 6-5 with Pereira serving but then she chokes and now we got a tiebreak. Wouldn't be surprised it someone chokes during the tiebreak.

[aceking]

Eugenie Bouchard wins in straight sets to reach the final .

[kenz]

Men can hold from 0-40 like nothing. For women holding from 0-40 is a huge accomplishment.

That makes for some of the upsets as 1 or 2 critical mistakes by women who is serving may decide the winner

[frugalgambler]

Men can hold from 0-40 like nothing. For women holding from 0-40 is a huge accomplishment.

That makes for some of the upsets as 1 or 2 critical mistakes by women who is serving may decide the winner

And this is bad why ?

[kenz]

And this is bad why ?

Wyy do you care to ask when you dont care it?

[frugalgambler]

Wyy do you care to ask when you dont care it?

That was a rhetorical question.

[baconbets]

there was a good facebook comment on an espn article. guy said halep has some of the most consistent depth of shot hes seen on the WTA and that players like kerber, by comparison, spin/moon the ball in, which bouchard can attack. halep's game doesnt lend itself to being attacked. i was thinking bouchard at first but i also feel like halep has a chip on her shoulder after nearly winning the french. very little resistence left in front of her when you consider she took sharapova the distance.

[jjgold]

Halep strong

[thirtytwo]

there goes the ankle

[ridims]

there goes the ankle

Bouchards?

I just made a live in game bet a couple minutes ago when she was up 40-15 in 4th game, got +130 for her to win match

[thirtytwo]

Bouchards?

I just made a live in game bet a couple minutes ago when she was up 40-15 in 4th game, got +130 for her to win match

halep

medical TO called immediately, taped left ankle... lets see what happens next...

[shari91]

I've got a $200 bet on TI on Bouch and a massive $50 cash on her. Go Genieeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Need you guys to guide me in live betting as I have to call it in.