Who win ?
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RaonicComment -
I'm not sure after today with Nadal matchComment -
Raonic without much troubleComment -
Every set will be 7-6 so flip a coin. I go Raonic with more experience but would rather just play over 46.Comment -
Raonic, I don't think Nick backs up here. He had nothing to lose against Nadal now he has pressure, if you watched his first few matches he starts off nervousComment -
Same story every time for the newbs. Very hard for young players or those without a track record of success to back up a signature win at a Slam in the next round.
This was a nice win, but beating Nadal at Wimbledon now is becoming more routine for heavy hitters like Kyrgios. This one was less shocking than the past losses at Wimbledon because Kyrgios has alot of talent. Guys like Rosol and Darcis played the matches of their lives to beat him ... for Kyrgios, this is more of what he is capable of doing again and again as he grows.
Rafa made his point by winning Wimbledon a couple times. I truly believe he doesn't care as much about this time of the season. He's spent after winning his pride & joy, the French Open. I think he sees anything he does here as a bonus.
I'm not on auto lock on Raonic here though. Kyrgios beat Gasquet also who had shown to be in better form heading into Wimbledon, even though his fitness might have still be a shade compromised ... I think given the youth of both, that the price is about right with Raonic having the experience edge in Slams ... although this is just his second quarterfinal and first time at Wimbledon.Comment -
I hope everyone keeps thinking like you guys. I'd like better than $2.96 on the kid!.Comment -
The kid is not winning.... Please hammer the kid. Kyrgios will not even sniff a break on Raonic.Comment -
If Nick had a day off I'd give him a small shot to win. 19 year old kid just beat No 1 player in world. Is he sleeping peacefully or is he reliving every moment of that match in his mind all through the night? If the kid can put todays win out of his mind and sleep well, he will be a champ many times over in the years to come barring injury.
My guess he comes out running on fumes tomorrow.Comment -
One thing you have to consider, there won't be many rallies in that one. Neither player is going to look to engage in that sort of behavior. Both should be able to conserve energy with some good serving, so if the legs are there - it could be extremely tight. I don't think the Nadal match took quite as much out of Kyrgios as some think. The Gasquet match was much more taxing and he was able to shake off some early issues to roll Vesely the round after. He might start slow, but I don't really think fatigue is going to be the issue. Nerves and/or lack of consistency would be what undoes him if he comes undone IMO.Comment -
raonic gonna roll through this kidComment -
Raonic is a tank or artillery. He can win wimbledon in my book if he plays the same level in nishikori gameComment -
Raonic should beat -3 games spread right?Comment -
should yes, but anything can happenComment -
nerves? why? what's the big difference between Nadal and Raonic?
1/8 vs 1/4 >> same deal for him....it's not like he has been to any of these stages before...
playing no.1 vs no.9 >>> he still is a dog and no one expects him to win.
possible tiebreaks? >> he proved against Nadal he can beat him in tiebreaks
Raonic huge serve - vs Nadal's defence? OK, Raonic will probably hold his serve comfortably but so is Kyrgios as Raonic's defence is worse than Nadal's.
So tiebreks it is. Crowd will be behind him, so Raonic will be pressured.
Im almost sure Kyrgios will be in semis vs Fed.
but puss!es of course will pick Raonic
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You sound more like a pussynerves? why? what's the big difference between Nadal and Raonic?
1/8 vs 1/4 >> same deal for him....it's not like he has been to any of these stages before...
playing no.1 vs no.9 >>> he still is a dog and no one expects him to win.
possible tiebreaks? >> he proved against Nadal he can beat him in tiebreaks
Raonic huge serve - vs Nadal's defence? OK, Raonic will probably hold his serve comfortably but so is Kyrgios as Raonic's defence is worse than Nadal's.
So tiebreks it is. Crowd will be behind him, so Raonic will be pressured.
Im almost sure Kyrgios will be in semis vs Fed.
but puss!es of course will pick RaonicComment -
No nerves against Nadal because even his own mum thought he was a sure thing to lose. Now the difference is he has expectations on him to back up and win thats the difference. He has also played a lot of tennis lately and at 19 will be feeling it more then raonic would
You have to remember he struggled first few rounds against lesser quality opponents to, number 8 in the world is a big difference and unlike Nadal he can actually play well on grassComment -
There is 0 value in any of these arguments
Expectations? So now, his mum thinks my boy can do it.
He looked very good physically and you would think Nadal is the guy who can beat you physically.
So he struggled first rounds, so what? he adapted like everyone else and his game has improved by every round. i don't think he will return to struggling mode.Comment -
Chaz did you watch Raonic vs Nishikori?Comment -
Never mentioned nadal and his physicality during their match. Im saying he played a lot of warm up before wimbledon and has to play the next night after a big win after I'm sure he celebrated and was thinking about that win all night, what 19 year old wouldn't I know I would be struggling to sleep after something like that. Vsing nadal no one expected him to win, now he has done that the expectation is to win again so he now has pressure from the media and everyone around him so he will more nervous everyone is now watching to see what he can doThere is 0 value in any of these arguments
Expectations? So now, his mum thinks my boy can do it.
He looked very good physically and you would think Nadal is the guy who can beat you physically.
So he struggled first rounds, so what? he adapted like everyone else and his game has improved by every round. i don't think he will return to struggling mode.
Raonic is a much more grass suited player than nadal and has been in very good form, I'm not saying he will smack kyrgios off the court but I see him being the more experienced and stronger player in this match up and that showed in his straight sets win against Nick at the french open but bol with which side you go for
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the fact that he also only has 10 ATP tour matches to his name going into wimbledon (won 3 lost 7) would also mean nothing to then right?
The recent head to head also probably means nothingComment -
Raonic should win this and I think he has a realistic chance to win the whole thing. It would be refreshing to see a huge server win Wimbledon for the first time since Ivanisevic in 2001, and I see similarities in Raonic and Krajicek who won it in 1996. Since then they're of course slowed down the grass, and imo they've gone too far with that. It's ridicilous that a player who bases his game mostly on moonballing forehands to opponent's backhand (Nadal) has been able to win Wimbledon, not just once, but twice. Imagine Nadal playing against Sampras in the 90s fast, low bouncing grass courts, that would've been hilarious.Comment -
I'm ok to say Raonic should win , but hanicap +3.5 odd 2.1 for Kyrgios seems generous to me, isn't it? I don't know what will be Nick's shape today, but if he serves the same way he did yesterday, Raonic will never break him! So even considering Raonic would win 7-6 7-6 7-6, +3.5 games for Kyrgios would be a winning bet. What do you think about betting Kyrgios hcp +3.5 games odd 2.1 ?Comment -
And I sure hope he wins it because I have small bet on him to win Wimby @80.Comment -
can't wait for your reaction on Ranoic's loss today.Comment -
Chaz you did not watch one side -Raonic- and act like you have it in the bag.
I had Raonic @1.57 now it is @1.33. I will be here after the gameComment -
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