Shooting for 2-1 at worst

[kenz]

Flat Stake each

Ferrer 3-0 @1.70
Murray - Nando over 41 @1.97
Mo-fo - GGL over 40 @1.97

[Chaz22]

Flat Stake each

Ferrer 3-0 @1.70
Murray - Nando over 41 @1.97
Mo-fo - GGL over 40 @1.97

I think these are very good choices....

1) Can't see how Andersson can take a set.
2) Murray vs Nandito will be a marathon match, over is good, I will also take Verdasco ML since he knows how to play with Andy and on clay he has better chance then on grass
3) Yes, i would even bet over 50 if it was possible. This will be the match of the day.

I think you will get 3-0 easily. GL.

[kenz]

I think these are very good choices....

1) Can't see how Andersson can take a set.
2) Murray vs Nandito will be a marathon match, over is good, I will also take Verdasco ML since he knows how to play with Andy and on clay he has better chance then on grass
3) Yes, i would even bet over 50 if it was possible. This will be the match of the day.

I think you will get 3-0 easily. GL.

Thanks Chaz22, hopefully. BOL

[tipsadontlikehim]

of course i like the Ferrer 3-0

for some reason i hate over 40 or 41 games in general, not talking about these specific matches

especially on clay matches can go to 4 sets and still go under, but good luck to you !

[lucasdawg]

i agree tips, berdy v R.B.A - hurt cos rba flaked the first 2 sets 6-1 and 6-2 zz

i thinking murray over for sure probs push the tiebreaks

i like your plays in general kenz bol

[manwiss]

about Verdasco ML, i agree with that. in that match vs German it looked like that Murray had some problems with health

[matt1216]

Get bruzz get some bertens 2nd set +money

[kenz]

I took Petkovic +4.5 games @1.85 live

[makman]

GGL ML is my pick.
After the match between Fognini and Monfils, ATP should forbid clowns playing on courts and disqualify them both, so GGL should pass through with Walkover. But i hope Garcia Lopez will end our torture of watching Monfils on a grand slam.

[kenz]

People who think GGL is good may get surprised if he shows up soft again. He could easily get beat by Mannarino if he was not French, let alone Donald Duck

[kenz]

Guys what do you think of Nadal to win over 18.5 games @3.40?

All we need is Lajovic to win 5 games in 1 set then he can get double bagelled. Normally I would not give a too-much tought as Lajovic is not that great, but Nadal being injured might help with the bet.

I am 80% negative with this bet but I might be wrong. Maybe Nadal can keep it loose in 1 set and win 7-5

[kenz]

I took Petkovic +4.5 games @1.85 live

My live bet cashed if no retirement

[WalkingLuckCharm]

is it normal for the girls to get broken every serve?

[kenz]

Yep

Too many dumb bitches on tour

And Men can be 0-30 down and look at it as their pride/honor to hold serve. Women 0-30 down might say "Well she may break me now but I will break her next so we are even"

[lucasdawg]

took over 38.5 for both
murray and Monfils matches bol everyone

[WalkingLuckCharm]

it's just a mental thing right? every time I watch women's tennis (only when I bet on them rofl) it seems to be a common pattern

[lucasdawg]

yeah dw petkovic will win

[WalkingLuckCharm]

and of course the moment I bet on a break for the next game she holds

[lucasdawg]

one game too earlz for the live bet on the break walkingluckcharm

[matt1216]

fck what a train wreck bertens/petkovic

[lucasdawg]

probs will wait and live bet errani next wta just to spice my life

[kenz]

Kevin Anderson's first serve is lethal

Ferru fighting hard ATM. Tiebreak would be close

[WalkingLuckCharm]

who is mo-fo

[kenz]

Ferru might lose this set

[kenz]

who is mo-fo

Monfils

[kenz]

Is it just me or Kevin Anderson to win tb @2.75 is way overpriced???

[lucasdawg]

good value i guess

[Chaz22]

uff...there goes the 1st one....well, 2-1 is still achievable

[matt1216]

Got lucky on this;

Jun 02, 2014 04:16:21 AM
Single #350125080


Tennis - IN PLAY (Prop) Moneyline
LIVE - ATP French Open - 3rd Set Winner


Kevin Anderson (3rd Set) 3.50 Jun 02/14@02:00a


Competitor: David Ferrer (3rd Set)


Web CA$ 93.00 CA$ 232.50

[lucasdawg]

we have the same play kenz hope you hit the other 2 mate

[kenz]

we have the same play kenz hope you hit the other 2 mate

Big Kev was great in 3rd set.

And he won his 2nd serves in tb and Ferrer lost them, quite contradictiory to the general characteristics of the game. Ferrer was nervous too...

[kenz]

Since Ferrer killed my bet, he can bagel now

[tipsadontlikehim]

i noticed Ferrer lose many tie breaks, don't know if anyone got the stats, would be interesting to know... not sure why david is so average in those tie breaks (nervous probably like u said)

[makman]

Ferrer is a weaponless laborer, but maybe the best one of his kind. His winning depends on his opponents' faults (not completely but much more than other top players)
Since the players are more careful in TBs, Ferrer's succes rate drops

[fitguy67]

is it normal for the girls to get broken every serve?

Yep

Too many dumb bitches on tour

And Men can be 0-30 down and look at it as their pride/honor to hold serve. Women 0-30 down might say "Well she may break me now but I will break her next so we are even"

Kenz...i created a "word blizzard" with this exact theme a few weeks ago..
__________________

the key difference i notice between male vs. female elite-level tennis is this...

An amazingly-casual attitude toward holding service...and i'm NOT referring to the tangible physiological barriers to developing nuclear-weapon serves like men (especially--but not exclusively--the monstrously tall ones)...i'm talking about the "tooth and nail" importance to holding at all costs one's serve, no matter what the score is...0-30, even 0-40, "damn i just can NOT let this bastard break me"...tooth and nail...especially stubborn war on all fronts is called for when under pressure to give up the very first break of a match...hell how many times have we seen entire men's matches go with a tiny tiny handful (even zero) of failures to hold service...even among non big-servers...hell, watch a top challenger-level guy like Klahn or Ram or Ebden or Sella versus a top-tier ATP'r and marvel at just how long they'll hold out before giving up that inevitable first crucial break to a superior player...why do they fight so hard...because NOT being broken easily is the SINGLE most important aspect of excellence in the game

women, by contrast have this maddening "oh well, haha...i just failed to hold my serve...but not to worry, i'll just have to break you on yours...maybe even break you RIGHT back, right now"...this attitude underlies why gash-rackets blows...

think of it...Nishikori vs. Ferrer...no big weapon-serves on either side of the court...BUT it's hard as hell to break someone on THEIR serve...it's like going into THEIR house and trying to piss on THEIR sofa in front of them (with Nadal, you might as well be trying to rape his woman) ...u'r up 40-15 on THEIR serve...think it'll get easy to notch up a break...no way...it gets harder...you just steel their resolve to NOT let you insult them in THEIR house...why do they fight so hard...because they know it'll be just as hard=damn near impossible in some cases to "just get the break back"...so you do anything to "draw the line" here

women, by contrast have this casual "just play the points and see what happens...if i play well enough today, i'll register MORE breaks than you" attitude to the whole match...no "tooth and nail", no "i am not going to let you break me, you bitch...you think the point that just brought you to 40 was hard to get...watch me dig in and fight now...this is MY freakin' serve here...you're in MY home..."...none of that...instead it's "oh well, it's 15-40, haha...hope you don't break me this time...but if you do, there's plenty of time later in the set to get it back..." ...

THIS CASUAL ATTITUDE TO HOLDING SERVICE(not the lack of a "weapons grade" serve/groundstrokes) is what makes gash-rackets generally a vastly-inferior product...

a few days ago Petkovic played Bouchard in the Miami final and it was an exceptionally hard-headed exception to the usual "patty-cake...let's see what happens" WTA crap...a sense of importance and urgency...and primacy of HOLDING service as a non-negotiable "key to victory"...there were a good handful of breaks overall but each and every one was hard-fought, which for me made it entertaining and a bettor on either side of the match got their "money's worth" because both fought to the last point, with respect to the special importance of "breaking service when the opportunity arises...BUT HOLDING YOUR OWN SERVICE AT ALL COSTS"

neither Nishikori nor Ferrer are big servers...but both are mentally-tough scrappers...result is a hell of match (even replace one of these with a much lower tier non-big-serving guy like Ram, Klahn, Ebden, Sock, Sella...and you'll still have something watchable...and if you got a decent price on the dog...you'll generally get your fair shake...hell, Nishi/Ferrer don't run and hide when they face Karlo/Isner/Anderson/Cilic/Raonic...they dig in even harder on their own serve, knowing the guy's firing missiles...and bide their time (another key to mental toughness...opportunities to break their opponent WILL arise...but till they do...the bastid' ain't breaking me)

sorry about the word blizzard...it helped me crystallize EXACTLY what it is that maddens me about women's tennis, and why i HATE laying chalk on a favorite who'll have an amazingly casual attitude to holding her own serve