GULBIS is the better bet over ISNER

[kenz]

Big John does not look good in 2nd serves as expected. He makes up for it with 1st serves but he has no room for mistake

[Semper Fidelis]

isner gets stronger why would you back gulbis

Trust me Johnny has a knack for choking matches away. As long as Gulbis stays motivated and still wants to win he has a very good chance of winning in 3.

[slayer14]

those where mental errors from isner

[JustSomeCash]

Gulbis break on the first game of the 2nd set,there still hope ,

Need him to win -1

[matt1216]

good god, it's has that feeling of gulbis in 3 sets. Just an feeling albeit

[MagicDiceFlow]

What is a good live-play here MDF? If Gulbis wins this tiebreak I may take Isner for 2nd set... If Isner wins the tiebreak it might be better to take Gulbis, no?

Isner just got immediately broken to start the second set. I dont think he's going to keep up that first serve percentage up entire match. Also that tiebreak was very close ...down to one point so Isner wasnt dominating the tiebreaks like he usually does.

His second serve points won is outright pitiful right now. He won't be able to hide from that whole match long. Take Gulbis if the odds are nice right now.

[JustSomeCash]

good god, it's has that feeling of gulbis in 3 sets. Just an feeling albeit

You can lie back and scratch your balls, your part is done in this game

[slayer14]

total lack of focus from isner to get broken to 0

[slayer14]

matthew does not post fake bets

[slayer14]

isner choking

[slayer14]

gulbis playing his lowest level

[kenz]

1st Gulbis serve Isner could not break from 0-30

2nd Gulbis serve Isner wasted 3 break points

3rd Gulbis serve Isner wasted 2 break points

Not sure if Gulbis will take the match.

[Semper Fidelis]

Isner just got immediately broken to start the second set. I dont think he's going to keep up that first serve percentage up entire match. Also that tiebreak was very close ...down to one point so Isner wasnt dominating the tiebreaks like he usually does.

His second serve points won is outright pitiful right now. He won't be able to hide from that whole match long. Take Gulbis if the odds are nice right now.

Exactly what I ended up doing buddy! I took Gulbis ML and 2-1 prematch, and Gulbis 2nd set and O27 after Isner won that first set. Of course you know Isner is my favorite player - not saying I know him any better than anyone else - but I have a feeling he'll somehow end up choking the match away like usual.

[kenz]

I dont know why everyone says Isner chokes usually. He made Del Potro choke in a 3 setter where DelPotro served for thematch. He also saves a lot of break points in these type of tourneys,I think he is consistent

Raonic is more of a choker but Isner is pretty good on 3 setters in US hardcourts

[slayer14]

come on john

[STAY STRONG]

Got the break back.

[kenz]

He deserved it, 3rd game with multiple break points

[slayer14]

gulbis will struggle in tie break if he continue to serve this poorly

[Semper Fidelis]

I don't mean choke as in Frenchy men choking lol. Just that he has a knack for failing to close out sets when he's about to win, or not playing well at all against many of the top-10 players after dominating competition the whole tournament. Like if he ends up winning tonight I bet he loses in straights to either Joker or Fed.

[kenz]

I don't mean choke as in Frenchy men choking lol. Just that he has a knack for failing to close out sets when he's about to win, or not playing well at all against many of the top-10 players after dominating competition the whole tournament. Like if he ends up winning tonight I bet he loses in straights to either Joker or Fed.

I think he plays great against anyone on 3 setters on hardcourts in US soil. He does not choke and he does not have a problem in closing out

But Slams are a different story

[Semper Fidelis]

^^ I was getting ready to say it's mainly in slams and the bigger tourneys I'm referring to.

[slayer14]

booooooooooommmmmmmmm isner wins

[kenz]

If they duplicate what they did in Valencia Isner wins. And now he is in American soil.

Assuming every upcoming match will be exactly like the previous one will cost you a lot of money in betting.

Both matches won by Isner 7-6, 7-6

Both first set tiebreak scores 7-4

2nd set score in Valencia was 7-2, here it is 7-3

So r u sure Hardcoar?

[Hardcoar]

Well, that was f*cking painful...

Well deserved Isner. Congrat's Isner backers!

[MagicDiceFlow]

Gulbis choked that game away serving for the set.

Congrats all the big john bettors.....he came through on the tiebreak when it counted.

[matt1216]

80% of public still on Gulbis but Isner price has not moved up at all. Most books it's stayed the same or came down. Good write up MDF. I don't disagree with your play, but I'm on Isner here

And, the public is burried.

[Hardcoar]

Both matches won by Isner 7-6, 7-6

Both first set tiebreak scores 7-4

2nd set score in Valencia was 7-2, here it is 7-3

So r u sure Hardcoar?

Extremely certain. Singular coincidence proves jack shit.

[matt1216]

Gulbis choked that game away serving for the set.

Congrats all the big john bettors.....he came through on the tiebreak when it counted.

Theoretically you had it right MDF. The missing factor is the 10 year old kid in The Gulbis body

[JustSomeCash]

wow just wow again 76 76 to Isner tnx god i didnt bet this scenario-shit that I thought

But yet..Gulbis,wow destroyed so many opportunities and made every possible mistake to not win a set..

He finished as a joke

[MiDNiTe]

gulbis serve is pretty good but gulby is a average returner so most likely there will be 1 ot 2 tbs and anything cqn happwn in a tb, i saw a guy backed rafa big in tb against hot dog and rafa was up mini twice

Long johns back to being tb beast

[kenz]

wow just wow again 76 76 to Isner tnx god i didnt bet this scenario-shit that I thought

But yet..Gulbis,wow destroyed so many opportunities and made every possible mistake to not win a set..

He finished as a joke

You were risking too much to win too little

Glad you skipped it

[rankslash]

Question for you guys..

In Pinnacle I can take Isner 2:1 @ 5 ; Gulbis 2:1 @ 4 ; and Under 25.5 @ 2

So if I play like that:

Isner 2:1 * 300 = 1500
Gulbis 2:1 * 400 = 1600
Under 25.5 * 700 = 1400

Only way for me to loss that if game end like the last one 7:6 7:6 for same player,
but if not,3 sets give me +200 and 2 sets give me my money back..

its worth play or too dumb risky?

Hope you didn't bet it.

[kenz]

Extremely certain. Singular coincidence proves jack shit.

In both games Gulbis choked. He cant handle mentally and gamewise Isner, even when he has no 2nd serves

And it is pretty amazing total difference between final scores is 1 point.

[Hardcoar]

It is. Still... singular coincidence proves nothing at all.

[MiDNiTe]

long johns different player in the states