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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    ATP Abu Dhabi Exhibition
    Something to chew on for the next two days:


    26/12 07:00 David Ferrer -133 Stanislas Wawrinka -105
    26/12 09:00 Andy Murray -182 Jo Wilfried Tsonga +130
    Lines from Intertops. Nadal and Djokovic are participating as well. Going to do a lot of reading the next few days about off-season training, etc. to see where some of these guys are at and who has done what. Seems pretty helpful early in the year, especially playing in the heat of Australia for most of the month. Merry Christmas f-ers.
  • losschaser
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-15-13
    • 723

    #2
    I like Ferrer and Tsonga. Murray's injury was very serious. He had surgery so he will likely perform sub par.
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    • fortune725
      SBR High Roller
      • 11-13-13
      • 185

      #3
      When did Murray have surgery? I like Ferrer at this spot too.
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      • rankslash
        SBR MVP
        • 07-29-13
        • 1562

        #4
        Originally posted by fortune725
        When did Murray have surgery? I like Ferrer at this spot too.
        Back in September. He missed the last two months of the season.
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        • tipsadontlikehim
          SBR MVP
          • 11-14-13
          • 2569

          #5
          I like Ferrer too, he will win.

          Wawrinka use to eat too much during Xmas.
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          • ClutchOnandWin
            SBR MVP
            • 12-10-13
            • 1196

            #6
            Ferrer's game caters around exposing the weaker shot of his opponent, which generally tends to be their backhand, by going inside out forehand all day longer with lots of margin for error and deep 3/4 length to the baseline. Wawrinka's backhand is his strength, it's the best single hander on tour and one of the best overall.

            I do not believe Ferrer wins this matchup when Wawrinka is in full flow and playing well. Especially since Stan elevated his game to another level last season, never-the-less........ we've seen Stan is only bringing his game to certain level events and with the fact he hasn't played since the o2, I don't feel he is the sort to get right back into his stride.

            Ferrer is the consumate professional and will be giving max effort, with no question about it. Wawrinka you feel will not exactly be drawing blood to get the W here, especially with it being an exhibition event.
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            • frugalgambler
              SBR MVP
              • 05-30-13
              • 3418

              #7
              Originally posted by ClutchOnandWin
              Ferrer's game caters around exposing the weaker shot of his opponent, which generally tends to be their backhand, by going inside out forehand all day longer with lots of margin for error and deep 3/4 length to the baseline. Wawrinka's backhand is his strength, it's the best single hander on tour and one of the best overall.

              I do not believe Ferrer wins this matchup when Wawrinka is in full flow and playing well. Especially since Stan elevated his game to another level last season, never-the-less........ we've seen Stan is only bringing his game to certain level events and with the fact he hasn't played since the o2, I don't feel he is the sort to get right back into his stride.

              Ferrer is the consumate professional and will be giving max effort, with no question about it. Wawrinka you feel will not exactly be drawing blood to get the W here, especially with it being an exhibition event.
              Is it really necessary to post this drivel in two separate threads ? Blah-blah-blah without any real insight.
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              • ClutchOnandWin
                SBR MVP
                • 12-10-13
                • 1196

                #8
                Originally posted by frugalgambler
                Is it really necessary to post this drivel in two separate threads ? Blah-blah-blah without any real insight.
                LOL!

                Jealous much?

                This isn't any real insight to you perhaps because you're not educated to the meaning of the terms "inside out forehand" and "margin for error".
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                • ClutchOnandWin
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-10-13
                  • 1196

                  #9
                  Tennis is all about one thing at the highest level. Matchups.

                  My insight was that the matchup between Ferrer and Wawrinka under typical circumstances on a hardcourt, marginally favours Wawrinka. This because Ferrer's successful game surrounds trying to break down a right handers backhand and dragging them out of court by hitting to it (Drawing short balls). Eventually when the player is firmly out of court from defending backhands from Ferrer's forehands that have great depth on them, Ferrer is left with the open court to hit in to.

                  However Wawrinka's backhand is firm and solid and quite dangerous. Therefore Ferrer has no real distinct advantage. Wawrinka is a shotmaker good enough to beat Ferrer's grinding style of tennis. Ferrer has no real weapons.

                  I said despite the obvious matchup concern for Ferrer, he is, in my book the favourite. Simply because he is the more "consumate professional" of the two and is the one most likely to return with his A game after the off-season break. Whereas Wawrinka is typically the sort of player that "play's his way back into form".

                  If you don't get this insight, because you're too much of an SBR narrow minded "pseudo intellectual", well then there is nothing I can do about that. Don't read my posts and selection the ignore function through the settings, you little dweeb.
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                  • ClutchOnandWin
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-10-13
                    • 1196

                    #10
                    I think it's simply "blah blah blah" and offering no insight to you because you haven't got the depth of thought or attention span to read more than 3 lines.

                    If you haven't got the mind to draw anything from it, that means you're the problem, not me.
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                    • frugalgambler
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-30-13
                      • 3418

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ClutchOnandWin
                      LOL!

                      Jealous much?

                      This isn't any real insight to you perhaps because you're not educated to the meaning of the terms "inside out forehand" and "margin for error".
                      Jealous of what ? Do you have a winning thread like Matt or are you an old-timer with a good knowledge of the game like EP36 ? No, you are just an idiot with too much time on his hands to pollute other people's threads with his long and pointless posts. All you will earn is a spot on most people's ignore threads, starting from mine.
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                      • horja1
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-13-11
                        • 5646

                        #12
                        weird match for Wawrinka ... 5-3 and 30-15 for him on Ferrer's serve and match ends 7-5 6-1 for Ferrer
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                        • ClutchOnandWin
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-10-13
                          • 1196

                          #13
                          Originally posted by frugalgambler
                          Jealous of what ? Do you have a winning thread like Matt or are you an old-timer with a good knowledge of the game like EP36 ? No, you are just an idiot with too much time on his hands to pollute other people's threads with his long and pointless posts. All you will earn is a spot on most people's ignore threads, starting from mine.
                          Hold on a single second. How would you know whether or not I possess a good knowledge of the game? You aren't even informed on what my background is, or anything? What a narrow minded sod you're.

                          I am not even going to go through my credible background, because it's not in my nature to try and prove myself to a bunch of stranger's I've never met. All I'll say is my record is non-existent on here because I am a new poster and no wise old man with a beard featuring as my avatar doesn't suggest I lack a valuable inside knowledge on this sport. I can happily inform you I've both played competitively and coached.

                          My thread is in this section, check it out or put me on ignore as you've just stated you would. Don't be so quick to judge a book by it's cover and learn to be more open minded in life. You miserable sod.
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                          • ClutchOnandWin
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-10-13
                            • 1196

                            #14
                            Just to spite this tit.

                            Abui Dabi Exhibition

                            Murray vs Tsonga Over 22.5 games @1.83 with Ladbrokes using (2 units)


                            I feel Andy Murray may not have it all his own way in this one. He is coming back from his longest layoff since turning pro and will most likely find it difficult to be at one with his return of serve and overall game from the baseline. It may take him a while to get into the rythm of reading Tsonga's serve and absorbing it's pace. Tsonga is likely to produce an early break and quite possibly snatch the opening set by letting loose on a few Andy Murray second serves. Typically Murray's second serve has always been his undoing and I wouldn't fancy it being too much better in his first match back on tour. (Which is even an exhibition at that)

                            Tsonga typically prefers himself as the underdog and I fancy him to produce some inspired shotmaking.
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                            • ClutchOnandWin
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-10-13
                              • 1196

                              #15
                              You know, I have so much time on my hands that I even play these quite silly parlays. lol

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                              • nothintuit
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 12-23-13
                                • 7

                                #16
                                Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                Jealous of what ? Do you have a winning thread like Matt or are you an old-timer with a good knowledge of the game like EP36 ? No, you are just an idiot with too much time on his hands to pollute other people's threads with his long and pointless posts. All you will earn is a spot on most people's ignore threads, starting from mine.
                                It looks like that old man hits slightly better than 50% which is better than most can do. Tennis knowledge is nice but doesnt mean shit unless it gives you an edge.
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                                • ClutchOnandWin
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-10-13
                                  • 1196

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by nothintuit
                                  It looks like that old man hits slightly better than 50% which is better than most can do. Tennis knowledge is nice but doesnt mean shit unless it gives you an edge.
                                  He's just a condescending idiot that is too narrow minded to listen to the views of newcomers. I still don't quite understand why he thinks he can immediately suss what my level of knowledge and understanding is on this sport. Literally, I'd probably crush him love and love with my laces tied and my racquet in my less dominant hand.

                                  He is your typical "hater" of anyone outside those who've proven themselves. Credit to whoever matt and the other bloke, but if all he wants is their insights, he should only read their posts.

                                  I was right anyway, it wasn't a foregone conclusion as Wawrinka was serving or the first set. lol Right to go 2 units on Daveed.
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                                  • ClutchOnandWin
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-10-13
                                    • 1196

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                    Jealous of what ? Do you have a winning thread like Matt or are you an old-timer with a good knowledge of the game like EP36 ? No, you are just an idiot with too much time on his hands to pollute other people's threads with his long and pointless posts. All you will earn is a spot on most people's ignore threads, starting from mine.
                                    Originally posted by ClutchOnandWin
                                    Tsonga is likely to produce an early break and quite possibly snatch the opening set by letting loose on a few Andy Murray second serves.
                                    Tsonga takes opener 5-7.
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                                    • ClutchOnandWin
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-10-13
                                      • 1196

                                      #19
                                      Next time you judge someone, think about what you're saying and whether you actually know enough about them to make that judgement call, because you'll end up looking as stupid as you have here. Do you understand what I am saying? Good.
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                                      • lucullus
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-16-13
                                        • 1027

                                        #20
                                        -_-
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                                        • ClutchOnandWin
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-10-13
                                          • 1196

                                          #21
                                          ^If that didn't lead to an automated ban, I would. Nice effort though.
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                                          • lucullus
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-16-13
                                            • 1027

                                            #22
                                            what are you talking about?
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                                            • ClutchOnandWin
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-10-13
                                              • 1196

                                              #23
                                              We are not allowed to link others to streams.
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                                              • lucullus
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-16-13
                                                • 1027

                                                #24
                                                oh good to know!! yeah i found it on the usual vipbox so i edited it. man sucks that this event is on at 4am/6am for us Americanos, but will still try and watch it.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  I would not bet these

                                                  The effort will not be there
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                                                  • Hardcoar
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-17-13
                                                    • 15606

                                                    #26
                                                    1. Black People.
                                                    2. Heat.
                                                    3. ???
                                                    4. PROFIT!!!


                                                    Oh hai Phanboy! Enjoy these days!
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