Puig vs Stephens, +300 WTF ?

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  • frugalgambler
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    • 05-30-13
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    #1
    Puig vs Stephens, +300 WTF ?
    There is no way Puig should be +300 vs Stephens. Watched bits and pieces of their last matches. Puig has more power and is less prone to mental lapses. Just put 8 units on Puig.
  • theballsflop
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    • 06-22-13
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    #2
    8 units! That's some serious conviction.
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    • frugalgambler
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      • 05-30-13
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      #3
      Originally posted by theballsflop
      8 units! That's some serious conviction.
      LOL. For me yes. I very rarely go that big. The last time I did I went on Serena to win French (20 units). Well I also went big on Penguins to win the cup, so I am not claiming to see the future in the crystal ball.
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      • baconbets
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        • 05-11-13
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        #4
        good dogs on the WTA side on monday. pironkova, robson as well.
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        • Tmuston Beltics
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          • 01-14-13
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          #5
          She has some problems trying to return deep balls. She doesn't have that good serve. Haven't seen Puig play though.
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          • frugalgambler
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            • 05-30-13
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            #6
            Originally posted by Tmuston Beltics
            She has some problems trying to return deep balls. She doesn't have that good serve. Haven't seen Puig play though.
            I see that her service speed a bit below that of Stephens. Still, watching Stephens play with Cetkovka, it felt like both women were playing on a court with a voleyball net. They were just trying to keep the ball in court, not going for anything with a lot of UEs. Stephens was not able to generate any power at all. We will see on Monday. Puig can self-destruct of course, but if she comes out focused she should win.
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            • frugalgambler
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              • 05-30-13
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              #7
              Hmm, the line barely moved; at +280 now. The main advantage that I see for Stephens is that she has already been in the 2nd week of a Slam, but Puig is spunky. From the purely tennis point of view this looks like a coin flip. Still, I'l probably downgrade this to only a 4-unit play. Any ideas on whether this is a good or bad decision ? MagicDiceFellow can you weigh in ?
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              • MagicDiceFlow
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                • 01-15-12
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                #8
                Originally posted by frugalgambler
                Hmm, the line barely moved; at +280 now. The main advantage that I see for Stephens is that she has already been in the 2nd week of a Slam, but Puig is spunky. From the purely tennis point of view this looks like a coin flip. Still, I'l probably downgrade this to only a 4-unit play. Any ideas on whether this is a good or bad decision ? MagicDiceFellow can you weigh in ?
                The line is correct. Much as I like Puig, she's not on the same level as Stephens right now. What's troublesome for Puig is her backhand. The way she crouches down and hits them. That limits her movement and recovery. Over the course of a complete match, she's going to lose a lot of points with that limited movement.
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                • frugalgambler
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                  • 05-30-13
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow
                  The line is correct. Much as I like Puig, she's not on the same level as Stephens right now. What's troublesome for Puig is her backhand. The way she crouches down and hits them. That limits her movement and recovery. Over the course of a complete match, she's going to lose a lot of points with that limited movement.
                  Thanks for your opinion MDF! Appreciate it. I guess I got too enamored with Puig's fiery passion and good-looking boody. Downgrading to 2 units. Still think Stephens did not look that good and is bound to have a meltdown during the match, but may survive a minor meltdown.
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                  • MagicDiceFlow
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                    • 01-15-12
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by frugalgambler
                    Thanks for your opinion MDF! Appreciate it. I guess I got too enamored with Puig's fiery passion and good-looking boody. Downgrading to 2 units. Still think Stephens did not look that good and is bound to have a meltdown during the match, but may survive a minor meltdown.
                    Yep, no problem. Puig has a chance but I wouldnt go too big on it. Just put a unit or two on it and enjoy watching that nice booty move around.
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                    • RichardGeorge
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-18-10
                      • 640

                      #11
                      Puig has more power then Stephens? Uhhh...no.. Not a chance
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                      • RichardGeorge
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                        • 04-18-10
                        • 640

                        #12
                        But also lol @ listening to Mdf and changing your play cause of his opinion.... Not exactly the sharpest mind out there
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                        • frugalgambler
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                          But also lol @ listening to Mdf and changing your play cause of his opinion.... Not exactly the sharpest mind out there
                          LOL. I do not see any of your plays here, mr. sharpie-sharp. Anyway, Stephens cannot generate power. She can feed off power, like she did when she beat Serena at Australian, but she is playing a very girlie tennis otherwise. A bit like Radwanska, but without being as smart and consistent. Anyway, why am I even talking to you, dude with a weird avatar.
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                          • MagicDiceFlow
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                            • 01-15-12
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by frugalgambler
                            LOL. I do not see any of your plays here, mr. sharpie-sharp. Anyway, Stephens cannot generate power. She can feed off power, like she did when she beat Serena at Australian, but she is playing a very girlie tennis otherwise. A bit like Radwanska, but without being as smart and consistent. Anyway, why am I even talking to you, dude with a weird avatar.
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                            • RichardGeorge
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                              • 04-18-10
                              • 640

                              #15
                              Did you really just compare Stephens game to radwanska??

                              Bahahhaha.. Okay
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                              • drfunkmaster
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                                • 11-29-08
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                                #16
                                Free palestine!!!!!!!!!
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                                • RichardGeorge
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                                  • 04-18-10
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                                  #17
                                  Stephens average first serve is close to puigs fastest serve... But puig is the one with the power? idiot
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                                  • frugalgambler
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                                    #18
                                    Free palestine, LOL. Yeah, her serve is about 10km/h faster on average, but she is also taller; but on the baseline Puig seems to have more power and consistency. Anyway, we will see in a few hours. I might be wrong basing my conclusions on how Sloan played her last match, but she did not look convincing there and at times rather pathetic.
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                                    • frugalgambler
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                                      Stephens average first serve is close to puigs fastest serve... But puig is the one with the power? idiot

                                      Oh, if I am a idiot, you are douchebag with a weird avatar. Go free palestine yourself.
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                                      • RichardGeorge
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                                        • 04-18-10
                                        • 640

                                        #20
                                        Sloane's backhand is way more powerful then anything puig plays...

                                        And you are judging this on one match? And yet insulting me? Lmao

                                        What's even funnier is that you changed your bet cause a moron like Mdf doesn't necessarily agree with you... Mdf posts more losers then winners and thinks he's cool shit because he posts $400 tickets.... Funny
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                                        • frugalgambler
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                                          #21
                                          Ahem, where is your record dude ? Start posting winners and you will find plenty of followers for your cause, LOL. I will even change my avatar to yours then.
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                                          • drfunkmaster
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                                            • 11-29-08
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                                            #22
                                            Hey free palestine. why do you have that avatar. Its depressing. Thats how i felt when Spain did not score today. Whats your take on Amerika? Shit man put some and boobs or something to cheer about not this depressing crying shit.
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                                            • Demonata
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                                              #23
                                              Stephens really does look like shit to me. I am on Puig + games. Stephens really should be out already with how bad she is at holding serve.
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                                              • MagicDiceFlow
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                                                • 01-15-12
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                                                Sloane's backhand is way more powerful then anything puig plays...

                                                And you are judging this on one match? And yet insulting me? Lmao

                                                What's even funnier is that you changed your bet cause a moron like Mdf doesn't necessarily agree with you... Mdf posts more losers then winners and thinks he's cool shit because he posts $400 tickets.... Funny
                                                First of all, anyone that uses a religious avatar in a gambling forum is the king of all morons. Secondly, I think many on this site can attest that I provide quality insight to this game, not like you who no one here has ever heard of.

                                                If you'd like, I'll start a charity bucket for you so that you can go free Palestine. What a moron, comes on a gambling site with an avatar like that....lol.
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                                                • MagicDiceFlow
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by drfunkmaster
                                                  Hey free palestine. why do you have that avatar. Its depressing. Thats how i felt when Spain did not score today. Whats your take on Amerika? Shit man put some and boobs or something to cheer about not this depressing crying shit.
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                                                  • MagicDiceFlow
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                    I see that her service speed a bit below that of Stephens. Still, watching Stephens play with Cetkovka, it felt like both women were playing on a court with a voleyball net. They were just trying to keep the ball in court, not going for anything with a lot of UEs. Stephens was not able to generate any power at all. We will see on Monday. Puig can self-destruct of course, but if she comes out focused she should win.
                                                    Also, that Cetkovka match wasnt a good display for Stephens. To see her potential on this surface, you have to watch her match against Lisicki last year on this same surface. Even though she lost, it proved to me her potential and power on this surface. This was some of the best hitting I've seen in the WTA on any surface. It was a great match:


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                                                    • frugalgambler
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                                                      • 05-30-13
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow
                                                      Also, that Cetkovka match wasnt a good display for Stephens. To see her potential on this surface, you have to watch her match against Lisicki last year on this same surface. Even though she lost, it proved to me her potential and power on this surface. This was some of the best hitting I've seen in the WTA on any surface. It was a great match:
                                                      Thanks for the clip MDF. I saw her beating Serena at the Aus Open and Sloan also looked very good there. But I do not know what happened to her lately. Last match, she was not dominating the baseline exchanges and looked weak. She has been losing to the likes of Peng and U. Radwanska lately, so let's call this a situational pick. No way, she should be a +300 favorite in her current form.
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                                                      • RichardGeorge
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                                                        • 04-18-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow
                                                        First of all, anyone that uses a religious avatar in a gambling forum is the king of all morons. Secondly, I think many on this site can attest that I provide quality insight to this game, not like you who no one here has ever heard of.

                                                        If you'd like, I'll start a charity bucket for you so that you can go free Palestine. What a moron, comes on a gambling site with an avatar like that....lol.
                                                        It's not religious, you moron.

                                                        I've made more money then you can dream of.. Check my history here.. I believe I had a 15,000 dollar complaint that I won against bet horizon.. Not to mention screenshots showing that I won 100k in a 4 month span.. Believe me, I don't need your charity... I'm betting 3k per game.. You are betting 400.. Talking about charity buckets lol
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                                                        • shari91
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                                                          • 02-23-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          You started off this thread saying you just put 8 units on Puig and now you're down to only 2? That's a lot of chalk you've had to eat in order to hedge out of those 6 units at -300. How are you possibly going to come out ahead now regardless of who wins?
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                                                          • Gus Fring
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                                                            • 03-21-13
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by shari91
                                                            You started off this thread saying you just put 8 units on Puig and now you're down to only 2? That's a lot of chalk you've had to eat in order to hedge out of those 6 units at -300. How are you possibly going to come out ahead now regardless of who wins?
                                                            Maybe his bookie lets him cancel wagers like Lakerboys bookies let him cancel out 5k off a nfl game where the line moved against him
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                                                            • RichardGeorge
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by shari91
                                                              You started off this thread saying you just put 8 units on Puig and now you're down to only 2? That's a lot of chalk you've had to eat in order to hedge out of those 6 units at -300. How are you possibly going to come out ahead now regardless of who wins?
                                                              It's easy to cancel and modify bets when they aren't real
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                                                              • COLLEGEBALLGURU
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                                                                • 09-27-12
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                                                                #32
                                                                Unreal by puig to not cover +4.5
                                                                Uggggghhhh
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                                                                • Demonata
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by COLLEGEBALLGURU
                                                                  Unreal by puig to not cover +4.5
                                                                  Uggggghhhh
                                                                  Yep pretty pissed.
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                                                                  • benrama
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Fraudgambler
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                                                                    • frugalgambler
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by benrama
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                                                                      Thanks again MDF for talking me out of this. Lost only two units. I do not mind eating chalk if I have to hedge, benrama et al. Glad I did that. Puig got derailed by that idiot umpire overrule. Unreal that they do not have hawkeye on all courts.
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