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  • kenz
    SBR MVP
    • 12-09-12
    • 4879

    #13896
    Vamos Pablo, held from 0-40
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    • kenz
      SBR MVP
      • 12-09-12
      • 4879

      #13897
      Vamoss
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      • MiDNiTe
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-11-13
        • 7684

        #13898
        take one pablo
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        • matt1216
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-27-11
          • 14683

          #13899
          Fck Pablo wake up
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          • MiDNiTe
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-11-13
            • 7684

            #13900
            damn pablo stop fukking around
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            • Cappinpicks
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-11-10
              • 14986

              #13901
              lol every favorite won? what a gift
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              • JC1186
                SBR MVP
                • 02-21-14
                • 1070

                #13902
                Originally posted by bababooey13
                TV has ZERO effect on any fixes
                TV has zero effect on fixes? No that is fcuking hilarious!
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                • Cappinpicks
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-11-10
                  • 14986

                  #13903
                  agut -750 to a superior player
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                  • JC1186
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-21-14
                    • 1070

                    #13904
                    Originally posted by Cappinpicks
                    agut -750 to a superior player
                    Superior player because he's ranked higher?

                    Rankings mean shiite. The only people who pay attention to it are the degenerate tipsters who lack intellect/have pea brains.

                    Not surprised one bit haha.
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                    • Cappinpicks
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-11-10
                      • 14986

                      #13905
                      can goffin be the first upset? how often u see a clean sweep for favs in tenis
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                      • Cappinpicks
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 03-11-10
                        • 14986

                        #13906
                        Originally posted by JC1186
                        Superior player because he's ranked higher?

                        Rankings mean shiite. The only people who pay attention to it are the degenerate tipsters who lack intellect/have pea brains.

                        Not surprised one bit haha.
                        i took agut with montanes parlayed but why is posp still injured
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                        • MiDNiTe
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-11-13
                          • 7684

                          #13907
                          fuk so close pablo going to screw this now
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                          • JC1186
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-21-14
                            • 1070

                            #13908
                            Originally posted by Cappinpicks
                            i took agut with montanes parlayed but why is posp still injured
                            He's not injured. He just lacked match practice over the past few months and clearly isn't a player who finds his groove quickly.

                            As for sucking now - he's Canadian, tall and lanky.

                            In other words he barely played on clay growing up and even though he has pretty strong legs and moves pretty well on other surfaces, he clearly struggles with movement on clay.

                            Bautista-Agut is Spanish. That says it all.
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                            • Cappinpicks
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-11-10
                              • 14986

                              #13909
                              Goffin to beat robredo
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                              • JC1186
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-21-14
                                • 1070

                                #13910
                                Originally posted by Cappinpicks
                                Goffin to beat robredo
                                I've got $150 smackaroonies on the Goffin ML.

                                By only bet for the night.
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                                • Cappinpicks
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-11-10
                                  • 14986

                                  #13911
                                  hopefully clay doesnt ruin his game, how late can they play at this shitty hour tourny?
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                                  • MiDNiTe
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-11-13
                                    • 7684

                                    #13912
                                    pablo mofo dont lose now after u wasted mps
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                                    • JC1186
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-21-14
                                      • 1070

                                      #13913
                                      Goffin has a very decent record on clay relative to other surfaces.

                                      Was tempted to take him for 1st set winner instead given he came through qualifying and has matches under his belt. Kind of regret it now.

                                      Reason being I can see Tommy grinding out the match win even if he loses the first. Gofin however, he likely needs the first set. Hence I should ahve just taken those odds.

                                      Ho hum!
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                                      • MiDNiTe
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-11-13
                                        • 7684

                                        #13914
                                        the dik actually won, had to go thru all that stress but won all my bets fukn worth it
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                                        • Marillion
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-06-14
                                          • 1453

                                          #13915
                                          Jesus Pospisil is worse than Anabel Medina Garrigues. Did u see those serves lol
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                                          • Cappinpicks
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-11-10
                                            • 14986

                                            #13916
                                            he beat federer right? coming back on a TB pospi
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                                            • Marillion
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-06-14
                                              • 1453

                                              #13917
                                              Well Stakhovsky also beat Federer but he isn't good on clay either. I saw some stuff from the match today and Pospisil was moving like Ivan Lendl after 2 beers (he did tons of unforced errors but that wasn't the main problem).
                                              This reminds me of Nieminen - Young in Acapulco. Then, I took Jarkko at something like 1.5, he said in his blog "I'm here in Mexico in a good form blah blah". Then he loses in straights and writes that he barely moved and had problems with the humidity. I wonder if Pospisil was so horrible in his last match... I should have seen it instead of backing him to cover the spread without much research.

                                              OK, end of moaning.
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                                              • Hardcoar
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-17-13
                                                • 15606

                                                #13918
                                                Originally posted by kenz
                                                Damn

                                                Is this a fix?
                                                Of course it is... a favorite you bet on is losing!!
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                                                • Cappinpicks
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-11-10
                                                  • 14986

                                                  #13919
                                                  please tell me how pussy hidalgo is a favorite to anyone let alone a good player... -180 LOL
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                                                  • Hardcoar
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-17-13
                                                    • 15606

                                                    #13920
                                                    Originally posted by JC1186
                                                    Superior player because he's ranked higher?

                                                    Rankings mean shiite. The only people who pay attention to it are the degenerate tipsters who lack intellect/have pea brains.

                                                    Not surprised one bit haha.
                                                    Who's the biggest jackass... Jackin'Dixx for jackin' dicks et al; or you for acknowledging him with a sincere response??
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                                                    • Hardcoar
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-17-13
                                                      • 15606

                                                      #13921
                                                      Originally posted by SirtySree
                                                      srs wasting my time responding to this retard. read my post again, i said there are minimal fixes on big TV matches and fixes r more likely on small matches with little coverage, not there r no fixes on every darn event shown on tv.

                                                      last post responding to this. we going off topic over a stupid issue wen we should hav just enjoyed wat was a good match and be discussing that and nt this dumb fix topic
                                                      ITT there is no such thing as "off-topic".
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                                                      • Hardcoar
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-17-13
                                                        • 15606

                                                        #13922
                                                        Originally posted by gasto
                                                        JC you dont have to find reasons why its not fixed. ...
                                                        You said it best yourself you clown – he doesn't have to find proof that which is the status quo – it is you making a claim that needs to supply the evidence.
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                                                        • Hardcoar
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-17-13
                                                          • 15606

                                                          #13923
                                                          Originally posted by gasto
                                                          How do you know that both players are not involved. Sometimes you need both sides to cooperate. Look at the NBA when sides mysteriously cover or total of game goes over with last shot. Wide open 3, and most of the top NBA players can make that if not contested.

                                                          Its on the Tennis Channel right and the British commentators are mentioning the wild swings. They said " Sousa won first set which he should not won and Fognini won second set which he should not won". This is all code word for " Fix is in". They will lose their jobs if they outright suggested that was the case.

                                                          Its pretty clear, Fognini is a better player so can pretty much decides if he covers or not, if games go Over Games total or not. Crazy to see how many people are naive here to think games are not fixed. Tennis is perfect for all the spot betting, and only 1 or 2 individuals needed.
                                                          Have you even so much as GLANCED at volumes matched???


                                                          If you haven't, please don't run your mouth.
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                                                          • Cappinpicks
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-11-10
                                                            • 14986

                                                            #13924
                                                            Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                            Who's the biggest jackass... Hardboar for jackin' dicks et al; or you for acknowledging him with a sincere response??
                                                            you dont know what a sincere response is, your life is on the internet
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                                                            • JC1186
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-21-14
                                                              • 1070

                                                              #13925
                                                              Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                              Have you even so much as GLANCED at volumes matched???


                                                              If you haven't, please don't run your mouth.
                                                              That's incorrect Hardcour.

                                                              That match had HUGE amounts of money traded on Betfair. I think it was about 6 million near the end there. WAY more than usual.

                                                              Therefore the only "tell" is by following the odds live. How they "drifted" relative to the score in the match. This gives away whether it's a fix. You then look for huge amounts of liquidity on the Lay Market on the Mr. Fixer of the match.

                                                              This confirms the fix.

                                                              ---

                                                              Bettin Live on Betfai is a very interesting experience. With a lot of potential for huge amount of success.

                                                              I wish to take it very seriously soon. Live, with a few PC monitors (30" Dell's), and a full pro set up in all the ways that matter. Mental PROWESS being the no. 1 focus. But all the serious "systems" in place. You probably know what I mean. Think it now. Now times it by 5 lots of awesomeness.

                                                              For instance the Fognini/Sousa match. Let's talk about that briefly.

                                                              Fognini was 5-3 up in the first set. Having started as a 1.16 favourite, he traded as low as 1.04. Like I touched on above, for extremely large amount of CASH. Hundreds of thousands were @ 1.04. Similar amounts at 1.05, 1.06, etc.

                                                              Then all of a sudden Mugnini shows up and wins 3 of the next 19 points.

                                                              Miraculously, Sousa then trades at 1.04 for the match when serving for it and 30-0 up in the second set.

                                                              So both traded at 1.04. And then, yep, you guessed it.. It gets better. Fognini then goes on to win.

                                                              SO in summary. What this means is that if you laid say 1.10 (we'll be generous for a "strict" low odds layer) on both players and then distributed equal green amounts.. you would be KILLING it.

                                                              This kind of shit happens regularly on the ATP and of course, the (LOL) WTA.

                                                              Hope this helps gives people some understanding of it.
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                                                              • Hardcoar
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-17-13
                                                                • 15606

                                                                #13926
                                                                Originally posted by JC1186
                                                                That's incorrect Hardcour.

                                                                That match had HUGE amounts of money traded on Betfair. I think it was about 6 million near the end there. WAY more than usual.

                                                                Therefore the only "tell" is by following the odds live. How they "drifted" relative to the score in the match. This gives away whether it's a fix. You then look for huge amounts of liquidity on the Lay Market on the Mr. Fixer of the match.

                                                                This confirms the fix.

                                                                ---

                                                                Bettin Live on Betfai is a very interesting experience. With a lot of potential for huge amount of success.

                                                                I wish to take it very seriously soon. Live, with a few PC monitors (30" Dell's), and a full pro set up in all the ways that matter. Mental PROWESS being the no. 1 focus. But all the serious "systems" in place. You probably know what I mean. Think it now. Now times it by 5 lots of awesomeness.

                                                                For instance the Fognini/Sousa match. Let's talk about that briefly.

                                                                Fognini was 5-3 up in the first set. Having started as a 1.16 favourite, he traded as low as 1.04. Like I touched on above, for extremely large amount of CASH. Hundreds of thousands were @ 1.04. Similar amounts at 1.05, 1.06, etc.

                                                                Then all of a sudden Mugnini shows up and wins 3 of the next 19 points.

                                                                Miraculously, Sousa then trades at 1.04 for the match when serving for it and 30-0 up in the second set.

                                                                So both traded at 1.04. And then, yep, you guessed it.. It gets better. Fognini then goes on to win.

                                                                SO in summary. What this means is that if you laid say 1.10 (we'll be generous for a "strict" low odds layer) on both players and then distributed equal green amounts.. you would be KILLING it.

                                                                This kind of shit happens regularly on the ATP and of course, the (LOL) WTA.

                                                                Hope this helps gives people some understanding of it.
                                                                What is incorrect? I didn't make a claim. I asked a serious question. If he has, then he can run his mouth.
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                                                                • JC1186
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-21-14
                                                                  • 1070

                                                                  #13927
                                                                  Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                                  What is incorrect? I didn't make a claim. I asked a serious question. If he has, then he can run his mouth.
                                                                  Do I really need to spell it out?

                                                                  Oh well.

                                                                  Originally posted by Hardcoar
                                                                  Have you even so much as GLANCED at volumes matched???
                                                                  Volumes don't tell shit a lot of the time.

                                                                  That Fognini V Sousa match had massive amount of liquidity! And I mean MASSIVE.

                                                                  Where as I know due to a lot of experience that the match 100% was not a fix. I know my shit!

                                                                  Often there is sweet fcuk all correlation!

                                                                  ----

                                                                  You made out looking at Volumes means so much in your reply to whoeveritwas.

                                                                  I'm telling you it doesn't mean shit!

                                                                  That's what's "incorrect".

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                                                                  • Hardcoar
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-17-13
                                                                    • 15606

                                                                    #13928
                                                                    It's a good indicator. No extraordinary volues = no possibility of a fix.

                                                                    Ergo, it does mean shit.
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                                                                    • gasto
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 12-30-11
                                                                      • 330

                                                                      #13929
                                                                      Hardcoar, your number 1 is issue,you are trying too hard to speak with authority. You act as if you have it all figured out. You are right , I did not look at volumes or whatever BS you look at.

                                                                      The action in front of me is enough, to make my deductions. The same shit happened with next match. Looked like Andular was drowning, off course came back to win- miraculously. How much of that is influenced by point betting etc. You act as if the only market available is opening lines. Since you seem to know it all, can you tell of the total amounts bet on that match- how much was In game- Just curios

                                                                      Does that not sound suspicious that this guy who was following odds say that Up 5 to 3 serving for game. odds to win were only 1.04 or something like that. Guess what. I have no proof but I am sure some wise guys at the books know Whats up and who is going to win. Clueless sheep trying to get "free" money in game get slaughtered because they think these games are just competition. No its a business and someone somewhere is out to get someone's lunch. I am a novice but you dont need to be an awesome handicapper to have a clue
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                                                                      • EaglesPhan36
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-06-06
                                                                        • 71662

                                                                        #13930
                                                                        I thought his #1 issue was a comprehensive knowledge of Albino porn titles?
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