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  • DoubleRedDragon
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-18-11
    • 975

    #1
    Why are you so in love with parlays, do you think? Use your brain?
    What advantage does grouping favorites over betting them individually allow? If I take a -575 favorite when I believe they're -1500, why am I being told that I'm stupid for not putting them in a parlay.

    I don't get it!!
  • Pew Pew
    SBR MVP
    • 12-21-10
    • 2267

    #2
    i'll just leave this here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-bet...back-game.html

    there's a reason why you bitch and cry about being broke not too long ago go ahead and try playing high favorites in the long run. it's a matter of time before we hear you cry about being broke
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    • DoubleRedDragon
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-18-11
      • 975

      #3
      exactly thats why u dont parlay. can u plz explain 2 me what advantage it has instead of just a sick sweat? theres no math advantage... ony degen sweats, no?
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      • DoubleRedDragon
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 11-18-11
        • 975

        #4
        Originally posted by Pew Pew
        i'll just leave this here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-bet...back-game.html

        there's a reason why you bitch and cry about being broke not too long ago go ahead and try playing high favorites in the long run. it's a matter of time before we hear you cry about being broke

        You're wrong. either you're on the right side, the wrong side, or the book has you right where they want you when they split the sides enough. Favorites do cash and you can have a fair edge on favorites just as you can have a fair edge on dogs!
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        • Pew Pew
          SBR MVP
          • 12-21-10
          • 2267

          #5
          let's look at your last 10 plays

          100 to win 17 (-575) federer

          *100 to win 190 (+190) jano
          *100 to win 33 (-300) woz
          *100 to win 43 (-230) gulbis

          100 to win 91 (-110) berdych +3
          *100 to win 17 (-560) bryan bros

          *100 to win 33 (-300) berdych
          *100 to win 55 (-180) tips
          *100 to win 71 (-140) tsonga
          100 to win 77 (-130) llodra

          * = loss

          if you wagered each play $100 to win straight up... you end up losing $515 (=-700+17+91+77)
          if you parlayed some of it like you did... you end up losing only $283 (=-300+17)

          now tell me how much would you rather lose? either way you're a loser. like i said earlier though... go ahead and keep playing high favorites in tennis... lets see how far you'll get

          parlay makes you lose money slower, while betting straight up just makes you lose money faster
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          • DoubleRedDragon
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-18-11
            • 975

            #6
            i'm just getting started betting tennis so I'm not insulted in any way by you pointing out that I've lost my plays just to let you know. Nice try though.

            I completely disagree with you about parlays.
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            • DoubleRedDragon
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-18-11
              • 975

              #7
              if you wanted to lose less then you bet less. it's as simple as that. Your math does not add up sir.

              With a parlay, by the time 3 out of 4 win, you're going to lose a ton since you already have the equity of 3 out of 4 wins. That's when you find yourself hedging. Instead just take a favorite for less if you're not looking to get hit so hard.
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              • Dmoneytx
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-09-12
                • 6450

                #8
                Originally posted by Pew Pew
                i'll just leave this here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/tennis-bet...back-game.html

                there's a reason why you bitch and cry about being broke not too long ago go ahead and try playing high favorites in the long run. it's a matter of time before we hear you cry about being broke
                So you are saying that playing high favorites in the long run makes you go broke??????
                I mostly take big favorites bec I hate sweating the underdogs to pull an upset. Can you please explain why I am in the black after 450 posted plays (mostly parlays with favorites in them)???? Would love an answer to this question.

                Hint, hint: I bet I don't get one, LOL!!! It's all good. I just keep making money with those BIG favs You just gotta know how to group them together.
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                • Dmoneytx
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-09-12
                  • 6450

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon
                  i'm just getting started betting tennis so I'm not insulted in any way by you pointing out that I've lost my plays just to let you know. Nice try though.

                  I completely disagree with you about parlays.
                  Hey DRD, this guy Pew Pew has no clue what he is talking about. I am living PROOF that everything he is saying is pure bullcrap! What a chump to talk shyte & he couldn't be more wrong IMO. Hahahahaha!!!
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                  • DoubleRedDragon
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 11-18-11
                    • 975

                    #10
                    agreed. in fact i'm ashamed he has a UCLA logo... i practically grew up on that campus. Pew pew you're stupid bro!
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                    • Pew Pew
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-21-10
                      • 2267

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon
                      if you wanted to lose less then you bet less. it's as simple as that. Your math does not add up sir.

                      With a parlay, by the time 3 out of 4 win, you're going to lose a ton since you already have the equity of 3 out of 4 wins. That's when you find yourself hedging. Instead just take a favorite for less if you're not looking to get hit so hard.
                      what are you even trying to say here? do you have any concept of what hedging means? hedging a parlay is where you're insuring yourself you won't lose any money. i don't know why you would say "you're going to lose a ton". if you have four straight up bets of -300 favorites, you will need THREE wins just to break even. but in your case, i won't be surprise if you play -500, -600, which means you will need to win at least 83% of your plays just to break even. can you honestly tell yourself and the forum you're going to win 60-80% of the time after going 3-7 with mainly favorites? i've seen you hanging out in the tennis forum for at least two months, you're not new to tennis bruh, you're just bad a capping tennis

                      you say my math is wrong, but where is your math? i don't see you backing up your arguments with any sort of statistics. the only thing i see you saying is "you win 3 derp out of 4 derp means you is a winnar derp derp"

                      Originally posted by Dmoneytx
                      So you are saying that playing high favorites in the long run makes you go broke??????
                      I mostly take big favorites bec I hate sweating the underdogs to pull an upset. Can you please explain why I am in the black after 450 posted plays (mostly parlays with favorites in them)???? Would love an answer to this question.

                      Hint, hint: I bet I don't get one, LOL!!! It's all good. I just keep making money with those BIG favs You just gotta know how to group them together.
                      dmoney why do you type like a child? are you butthurt cuz of the circle jerking joke i made? lighten up son. every motherfukkin win you celebrate like a child "easy money omg i won!111!" and when a heavy favorite is losing you create a thread and whine like a little bitch. act like you're used to winning brah. after 450 posted plays have you made at least $1000? i sure hope so after all that many plays!

                      where did i say playing high favorites in the long run makes people go broke? don't put words in my mouth dipshit. i never said picking high favorites can make someone broke, it can be profitable if you pick the right spots. my comment was directed to dragon and dragon alone because he's terrible at capping tennis. he even admit he's a loser because he's "new" ffs...
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                      • Pew Pew
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-21-10
                        • 2267

                        #12
                        Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon
                        agreed. in fact i'm ashamed he has a UCLA logo... i practically grew up on that campus. Pew pew you're stupid bro!
                        i'm going to pull a dmoney and say

                        dat hurtzzzzzz! LOL!!!! Hahahahahahaha
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                        • DoubleRedDragon
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-18-11
                          • 975

                          #13
                          2 months is brand new. it takes a few years to really get the hang of this. I never said I was an expert tennis handicapper.

                          And hedging is losing money. Simple as that idiot. Books love it when you hedge, they take plenty of juice. Go penetrate yourself, how about that.
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                          • Dmoneytx
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-09-12
                            • 6450

                            #14
                            Uh, how more WRONG could you be pew????

                            I NEVER say "dat hurtzzzzz". Have NO clue where you got them from. Wasn't me.

                            Also, I NEVER create a thread when a big favorite is losing. NEVER. Show me ONE thread I created when a big fav was losing please. I don't do crap like that. So don't start to talk smack and make people think I run and create a thread so I can whine. I have MY OWN thread, I rarely start a new one (only for in game threads to discuss matches in progress smartazz). Again, you are WAY off.

                            And when I win the ONLY play I made for the day in tennis, I will celebrate. Go look at the most of the 200+ wins I have recorded, MOST of them I don't do anything! Again, you are taking a couple posted wins and not accounting for the other 220 that I just recorded as wins and moved onto the next day.

                            Pew, you couldn't of been more OFF on almost everything that you said about me. It is obvious that you did not do your homework before you posted your comments. Doesn't bother me bec I have no clue who you are. Never seen you put forth one piece of useful information on anyones thread in tennis.
                            Again, I feel like you are sour bec you didn't tail some of my last few plays. I'm only 8-2 in November I think, so don't cry please.


                            And WHO types like a child???? I have a college degree sir, not so sure about you with comments like this in your last post "are you butthurtz cuz....". Dude, I don't even know if that is proper English. I am thinking probably no. It didn't even make sense. At least I make sense fool. Please, go penetrate yourself like DRD said, hahahaha.
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                            • beefcake
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-26-09
                              • 14029

                              #15
                              Dmoney, you should discover the beauty of the Open parlay at 5 dimes.I think you would love it,no pressure and you can pick and chose what you want.Then hedge if you want when you get down to the nitty gritty..
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                              • Pew Pew
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-21-10
                                • 2267

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DoubleRedDragon
                                2 months is brand new. it takes a few years to really get the hang of this. I never said I was an expert tennis handicapper.

                                And hedging is losing money. Simple as that idiot. Books love it when you hedge, they take plenty of juice. Go penetrate yourself, how about that.
                                you throw out words like hedging and juice out your ass when you have no basic understanding of what they are and what they mean. you say you're new, yet when someone is trying to disprove your logic, you attack like a little child until you can prove that you're right mathematically, which i highly doubt you are capable of doing, just sit down and shut the fuuck up. simple as that

                                Originally posted by Dmoneytx
                                Show me ONE thread I created when a big fav was losing please.
                                it's still even on the first page of the tennis forum ffs....


                                murray the big fav is losing and you created a thread. just reread what you said in that thread and see how childish you sound brah

                                Originally posted by Dmoneytx
                                I NEVER say "dat hurtzzzzz". Have NO clue where you got them from. Wasn't me.
                                somebody takes everything literally here's a hint, i was implying you act childish brah

                                Originally posted by Dmoneytx
                                Pew, you couldn't of been more OFF on almost everything that you said about me. It is obvious that you did not do your homework before you posted your comments. Doesn't bother me bec I have no clue who you are. Never seen you put forth one piece of useful information on anyones thread in tennis.
                                Again, I feel like you are sour bec you didn't tail some of my last few plays. I'm only 8-2 in November I think, so don't cry please.


                                And WHO types like a child???? I have a college degree sir, not so sure about you with comments like this in your last post "are you butthurtz cuz....". Dude, I don't even know if that is proper English. I am thinking probably no. It didn't even make sense. At least I make sense fool. Please, go penetrate yourself like DRD said, hahahaha.
                                i like how you said "on almost everything that you said about me" at least you admit some of the shit i said about you is true i really don't follow anyone on this forum since i cap my own plays. and i especially wouldn't follow someone who only makes 4 units after 450+ plays "ewwwww!!! LOL!!!! Hahahahaha!!!"

                                but yeah i really feel bad about myself for not being super cool like you where i have to post plays on the internets to feel good and cool about myself
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                                • DoubleRedDragon
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 11-18-11
                                  • 975

                                  #17
                                  Wow. It's simple maths dumb face.

                                  Bet 4 -400 picks for a $100 parlay. You're betting $100 over and over again, four times essentially. Each time it wins, you win 25%. by the time 3 out of four wins, you've got something like $200 and you're betting that to win $50 on your last play. So you hedge out because your'e scared of losing $200 on a single play. Essentially you're taking your half profit and throwing it down the drain, and that's only if your first 3 win.

                                  If you just bet $100 four times you'd never need to hedge because you're always playing the same unit size.

                                  It's simple maths, not rocket science. Don't hedge unless you made a bad bet in the first place. Don't play over your head or more than you're willing to lose..... once you get to that 7th play in a parlay, you wind up hedging out because you're afraid of how much you stand to lose. Why not just act as if you're playing a parlay and just continue to bet bigger and bigger as you win, but taking some amounts out of your bets and putting it aside to save it instead of hedging? That way you don't give the books any extra juice by taking both sides of a *fukkn bet you idiot.

                                  Books take juice from you when you bet both sides. Hedging is betting both sides. So how is hedging a profitable play in the long run? The only reason you do it is because you're scared to lose... I don't bet because I am scared to lose.

                                  Only reason you hedge is because you're playing above your bankroll. Parlays put you in spots where you're scared to lose. Just bet straight, take the easy route, it's the right one! Unless you just want to gamble like a degen and lose value to the books.

                                  GL Pew Pew and may the books crush you. I'm still learning, and I love that people so idiotic like you argue your case to the tee when you really have no case at all. It just shows that the books will stay in business as I learn more and more about how to beat them.
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                                  • tb1984
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-11-08
                                    • 3112

                                    #18
                                    I play parlay because I can risk a little, but can win big(of course the odd of losing is higher). I don't love it, but just play from time to time.
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                                    • MUHerd37
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-23-09
                                      • 12816

                                      #19
                                      It's all about picking the right spots.
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