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  • EaglesPhan36
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 71662

    #1
    ATP Paris Futures
    Djokovic ailing with a stomach bug and he's going to move up to #1 regardless of what happens because of Federer skipping Paris and losing a lot of points. Think that makes this a bit open, especially with some guys pushing late for London next week and/or the home Frenchies pulling off some upsets perhaps.

    Del Potro +900
    Berdych +900

    These two really stuck out. The obvious caveat for Del Potro is does he want another long week ahead of the Tour Finals? He's won back-2-back indoor tourneys, beating Federer last week in what had to have been a big break through for him mentally. There shouldn't be a more confident player in Paris this week. If Djokovic's stomach ailment hinders him, Del Potro is there to push through in this quarter although he will have to fight Isner or Llodra and maybe Djokovic himself. With Federer out, the top quarter is Berdych's to lose. He has some tough guys like Gasquet, Simon or a guy who has his number in 2012 - Nishikori ... but he's playing some of his best tennis in the last couple months and could be peaking.

    Nishikori +5000

    This is an interesting one. Nishikori's ankle was a worry coming in, but he looked fine against Paire. Indoor surfaces are pretty solid for Kei and he may have done better here last year if he hadn't come in off a long week from making the Basel Final. Having Berdych in this quarter might be a boon to Nishikori who has beaten Berdych twice already in 2012. If he did escape this quarter to the semis, it's like Andy Murray would be against him. Speak of which ...

    Murray +190
    He might be the safe play. He's coming in good form from Shanghai albeit off a long time off. If he finds rhythm early, he could get on a roll. Mathieu is first up and he should eventually break him down. Then young Janowicz and the quarterfinals would pit him against any one of Monaco, Dimitrov, Sjisling or Tipsarevic. A healthy Mr.T would be a tough clash, but all are beatable. You've also got a hedge available whenever needed as Murray should be a healthy favorite through to the semis. I believe from what I have read that the surface is slower compared to other indoor courts and that could suit Murray against some of the big servers as well.



    I'm thinking Berdych & Murray for one unit for sure. The other two I outlined here have their advantages, but also obviously hold the longer odds with some question marks.
  • Jrod124
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-31-09
    • 5622

    #2
    Don't like Nishikori, guy has been dominated by Murray in his career. Even if he were lucky to get by the Berd man he would calmly get dismissed by the Scot. I do like Berdych at +900 he has had success vs. Murray in his career and even the matches that he has lost to him he has battled. He has also been in great form winning Stockholm and SF in Shanghai so he is 12-1 indoors. That coupled with the Djokovic info u provided I think +900 is def worth a unit and I am playing it myself
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    • EaglesPhan36
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 71662

      #3
      I locked in Berdych this morning. Going to wait another round for anything else to see what happens today. Mainly want to see Djokovic & Del Potro and how they look. Will take the hit on the price to get a better gauge on their form/motivation. Also figure Murray's price shouldn't vary too much unless Djokovic loses - but he's still going to be a safe play as far as hedging, I think. Good luck!
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      • beefcake
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-26-09
        • 14029

        #4
        Played Monaco at 200-1 earlier this week...Made QF last year so points to defend and like you said,shot at final 8 in london..
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        • Jrod124
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-31-09
          • 5622

          #5
          Djokovic bounced, Our Berdych chips are looking nice right now. I need it after the day I took on single betting
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          • EaglesPhan36
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 12-06-06
            • 71662

            #6
            Interested to see Del Potro's price if he does win today. Probably cut in half, but he's got to be the clear favorite in the bottom half of the draw if he doesn't show any fatigue or struggle today.
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            • EaglesPhan36
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-06-06
              • 71662

              #7
              Delpo steamrolls Falla. I am adding him tomorrow. Llodra then Chardy/Raonic or Querrey to get to the semis and the lower half now only has Ferrer and Tsonga as other "top notch" guys left and I wouldn't rank either of them close in form to Del Potro right now. Think it's a worthy investment - hoping it still has a 4 in front of it to start.
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              • Jrod124
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-31-09
                • 5622

                #8
                Absolutely, guy has been the best indoor player in 2012 and going for his 4th consecutive title. I am adding him as well and hoping for a Del Po-Berd final and lock up profit. Hopefully we get at least +350 or something
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                • EaglesPhan36
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 71662

                  #9
                  Delpo @ +350. Booked.
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                  • EaglesPhan36
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 71662

                    #10
                    Actually check that. Post-match quote today from Del Potro:

                    “I feel tired, but this tournament is so good. It's a big tournament, and I'm ready to do my best like in Basel and Vienna,” said del Potro. “I played really well today. Tomorrow, I have a difficult match against a French guy.”
                    I don't like the tone there.
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                    • Brian891
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-28-10
                      • 2049

                      #11
                      EP is the confidence level with birdman still pretty high? u foresee him havin any probs with anderson tom? i know he's already clinched spot, but he's been playin very well. any input appreciated. I'd like to throw him in some parlays tom.
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                      • EaglesPhan36
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-06-06
                        • 71662

                        #12
                        The sets will likely be tight given the serving pop Anderson can bring, but I think Berdych fights through.
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                        • beefcake
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-26-09
                          • 14029

                          #13
                          Well I am going to make a 2 team parlay of Murray and Tippy to hedge my Monaco future.If for some ungodly reason Jersey boys upsets Andy i deserve the big dick in the A.If Murray and Monaco win Still have that 5 to win 1000 on Monaco .Then I will make a murray future bet at around -120 or so, Talk about an easy draw for simon with nishi pulling out he might frustrate the crap out of bird shit..
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                          • EaglesPhan36
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 12-06-06
                            • 71662

                            #14
                            Big D in the A has arrived. Glad I didn't take Murray after all. Berdych really has no excuse not to get to the final if he applies himself now. Draw is his for the taking.
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                            • beefcake
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-26-09
                              • 14029

                              #15
                              Son of a bitch..
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                              • EaglesPhan36
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-06-06
                                • 71662

                                #16
                                Really curious about Tsonga now. I thought he might check out after qualifying for the Tour Finals with the win today - but with the draw open in his half now without Djokovic. The winner between Tsonga & Ferrer obviously is the favorite although Querrey and Llodra both can't be counted out with their big serves. Interesting half. Top half is equally intriguing. Our man Berdych in the driver's seat, but he has to face Vanilla Boy Simon next. Tipsarevic-Janowicz in the other quarter. With all the spots secure in the Finals now [Tsonga-Tipsarevic clinched today] - not sure if Janowicz might not power serve past Mr.T who might be willing to get some rest and check out tomorrow.
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                                • beefcake
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 14029

                                  #17
                                  Price reflects what you said about tippy..Only -175???
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                                  • EaglesPhan36
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 71662

                                    #18
                                    It's a tough call tomorrow. Jerzy rightfully should have lost, but Murray choked on match point and the kid kept his cool while Murray lost his lid. I think beating Cilic & Murray successively helps alleviate concern about that "let down" spot after beating a marquee player. Mr.T gets his 1st "earned" trip to the Tour Finals after getting in as an alternate last year. It's really a matter of priorities for the top guys left now. What is the belief factor that they have heading into next week that they can win or make a run to the Final? I believe Roger pulling the double last year of winning Paris & London is the exception and not the rule. More or less, if you win Paris - you're going to have a tough time winning it all in London.
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                                    • Jrod124
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 10-31-09
                                      • 5622

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                      Really curious about Tsonga now. I thought he might check out after qualifying for the Tour Finals with the win today - but with the draw open in his half now without Djokovic. The winner between Tsonga & Ferrer obviously is the favorite although Querrey and Llodra both can't be counted out with their big serves. Interesting half. Top half is equally intriguing. Our man Berdych in the driver's seat, but he has to face Vanilla Boy Simon next. Tipsarevic-Janowicz in the other quarter. With all the spots secure in the Finals now [Tsonga-Tipsarevic clinched today] - not sure if Janowicz might not power serve past Mr.T who might be willing to get some rest and check out tomorrow.
                                      Yeah I don't know what do I at this point. I am confident our guy can get by Simon and then we can reevaluate with another round of matches to look at. I don't see who Tsonga is going to show any kind of heart if he gets down to Ferrer. Ferrer is a pain to play and if you are 100% into it you will fold..
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                                      • Jrod124
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-31-09
                                        • 5622

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by EaglesPhan36
                                        It's a tough call tomorrow. Jerzy rightfully should have lost, but Murray choked on match point and the kid kept his cool while Murray lost his lid. I think beating Cilic & Murray successively helps alleviate concern about that "let down" spot after beating a marquee player. Mr.T gets his 1st "earned" trip to the Tour Finals after getting in as an alternate last year. It's really a matter of priorities for the top guys left now. What is the belief factor that they have heading into next week that they can win or make a run to the Final? I believe Roger pulling the double last year of winning Paris & London is the exception and not the rule. More or less, if you win Paris - you're going to have a tough time winning it all in London.
                                        Yeah I agree Tipsy, is another guy that viable to tank if he gets down early. I can't believe this is the same Jerzy that blew up everyone's parlays at the Open losing to that clown from UCLA. But I do think he can hand and possibly continue this run and beat Tips
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                                        • EaglesPhan36
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-06-06
                                          • 71662

                                          #21
                                          I'm just going to stick with Berdych. Reading that Simon is feeling ill and was questionable had Nishikori not pulled out yesterday. He might have recovered some with a day of rest, but doesn't sound like he's 100% and probably would have pulled out perhaps if the tourney wasn't in France.

                                          I don't see a bad match-up left on the board for him.
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                                          • Sam_Hawkins
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 11-02-12
                                            • 922

                                            #22
                                            aw man that sucked, did anyone see the game? Who do you put ur chips on now? Is simon really that good? Im thinking Ferrer...
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                                            • k13
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-16-10
                                              • 18104

                                              #23
                                              What odds did Janowicz have before the tourney started?
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