Betislands has banned me from playing there....good book my ass

**Philavanh** · 09-05-12, 07:37 PM

Hmmm Interesting

**robmpink** · 09-05-12, 07:40 PM

More to the story I'm sure. I've won 6k off of a $150 deposit there. No problems with me or a bunch of others. It truly is a great book. Did you get an official explanation? Hard to see you making a bunch betting steam there.

**Justin7** · 09-05-12, 07:46 PM

Bet Islands is not geared for professional players. They obviously thought you were a threat to their bottom line.

The fact that BI cuts off pro players is a good sign for their solvency. BetPhoenix was a rec book that tried to take on the sharps, and it turned into a mess.

**HedgeHog** · 09-05-12, 07:50 PM

Books hate steam players, especially if they're giving you a free 1/2 point to tack on to an already generous number. I don't understand why people take it personally (like Emily Haines vs Heritage). It's just a business decision, plain and simple.

**princecharles** · 09-05-12, 09:14 PM

Yep take it as a compliment.
He really has only two 'player dislikes'.
Steam chasers and closing number beaters.
Other than that, all is fair game, and they pay with a smile.

**chase hardy** · 09-05-12, 09:21 PM

You must have been chasing steam. I talked with Jon about coming in for 10k and he plainly told me, u Chase steam and u are done with in 3-5 bets. I told him have a nice day. I get all the steam plays, just sucks I have to get every family member I know to make bets for me and have to wonder if ill get the money.

**FreeFall** · 09-05-12, 10:48 PM

Sounds like we aren't getting the whole story. I'd imagine they would kick you out and pay you out.

I'm not sure why you are mentioning legality and I'm also not sure why it surprises you that a book wants to kick you out for winning.

**edawg** · 09-05-12, 10:49 PM

Tight risk management at a recreational book is not out of the norm as long as you were paid your winnings take it as a complement and move on. If you were not paid than that is a huge problem every bet that is taken should be paid regardless.

**Rapscallion** · 09-05-12, 11:30 PM

Sounds like a bitter RAS client.

**Justin7** · 09-05-12, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by Rapscallion

Sounds like a bitter RAS client.

If you're playing RAS you need dumb locals, or someone with amazing reflexes to hit Pinnacle.

**yisman** · 09-05-12, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by princecharles

Yep take it as a compliment.
He really has only two 'player dislikes'.
Steam chasers and closing number beaters.
Other than that, all is fair game, and they pay with a smile.

Closing number beaters? That's basically anyone who can win long term.

Additionally, during football, most are beating the closing number due to free half points.

**bobbywaves** · 09-06-12, 01:07 AM

BI doesn't kick out winners, I'm up approx 17 G's & still play there. Obviously there's more to OP story.

**chase hardy** · 09-06-12, 07:19 AM

Bobby you're not chasing steam

**thebigtuna** · 09-06-12, 07:22 AM

steam chasing is trying to take advantage of a slow moving line?

**Betislands** · 09-06-12, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by fedex11204

And would you like to know why they banned me-not for anything I did wrong unless you consider winning a couple of thousand dollars a crime then no crime was committed and of course never committed the heinous crime of betting steam..the only steam I know is the one that keeps me warm during the winter.

Cheers Jon

Hi Fedex,

Can you please PM me your account number so I may take a look at the situation we do not ban players , we have players that are up 20, 30 , 40 , 50 k + on us and they still play with us and get paid like clockwork.

With that being said which other book that pays like we do offers a 35% cash bonus +108 juice + free half points ? Risk Management is a must!

The only people I ban from betislands are the extortionists and the ones that are rude and disrespectuful towards my staff.

Thanks for the Cheers !

**fedex11204** · 09-06-12, 09:42 AM

Guys pay attention I said I never bet steam ...and like I said the only steam I know is the one that keeps me warm during the winter and calling me a professional is laughable...although I wish I could do this professionally I am simply a rec player that got hot...it happens and for that I get the boot....unreal

**fedex11204** · 09-06-12, 10:20 AM

Well just had a word with Jon and he says thast Rudy the rep was misinformed and indeed I have not been banned and by business is welcome but of course can't offer me the 35% bonus. My question is what came first first the chicken or the egg meaning was I indeed banned and because of this threat they decided to take my business or was Rudy indeed misinformed.

**robmpink** · 09-06-12, 10:32 AM

U spoke with him and he told u why.

**thebigtuna** · 09-06-12, 11:53 AM

you must have done something for them to even have mistakenly banned you.....

**bobbywaves** · 09-06-12, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by chase hardy

Bobby you're not chasing steam

No....My name is bobby waves, not chase waves.

**djefferis** · 09-06-12, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Betislands

The only people I ban from betislands are the extortionists and the ones that are rude and disrespectuful towards my staff.

All I can say is WOW!!

You ban customers for rudeness, but yet your staff hangs up on me, calls me a cheap shot taker and that's OK.

Further, you state deception will get you booted. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it BI who advertised dime lines all season long, only to change that to dime line to -150.

Also, wasn't it BI who offered a 20 percent rebate on losses, only to amend that to "net loss on last gross deposit" before dropping it entirely.

Just my 2 cents.

**chilidog** · 09-06-12, 04:44 PM

I haven't tried to gamble with BetIslands, but they won't let me be an affiliate of theirs. They said the reason was because they don't take Costa Rican affiliates, yet when I questioned them and said that SBR was an affiliate, they never replied to me.

**Okiejoe** · 09-06-12, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by chase hardy

You must have been chasing steam. I talked with Jon about coming in for 10k and he plainly told me, u Chase steam and u are done with in 3-5 bets. I told him have a nice day. I get all the steam plays, just sucks I have to get every family member I know to make bets for me and have to wonder if ill get the money.

THeres nothing wrong with chasing steam it when your the orignator that troubles books. Hell Ill open up a book right now and let you chase steam all day. Your not getting the best of the line.

**dark star** · 09-06-12, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by djefferis

All I can say is WOW!!

You ban customers for rudeness, but yet your staff hangs up on me, calls me a cheap shot taker and that's OK.

Further, you state deception will get you booted. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't it BI who advertised dime lines all season long, only to change that to dime line to -150.

Also, wasn't it BI who offered a 20 percent rebate on losses, only to amend that to "net loss on last gross deposit" before dropping it entirely.

Just my 2 cents.

Yep...remember how they completely changed that net loss rule.That was total bullshit

**robmpink** · 09-06-12, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by dark star

Yep...remember how they completely changed that net loss rule.That was total bullshit

I'm 99.99% sure Jon clarified in here that it was cash deposits losses vs cash outs on a monthly basis. The wording on the website could have been interpreted differently, but he def responded early in a few threads and clarified it.

Also, using common sense, what book gives a 20% monthly rebate on play alone?

**paranoyd androyd** · 09-06-12, 09:32 PM

really no such thing as chasing steam these days offshore (at shops worth their salt anyway)

**Monte** · 09-06-12, 09:37 PM

Gimme a break you people, geez...
They give almost too good bonuses, and...oh hell just look up the owners posts for details, he mentions it every time anyways.

So of course they only tolerate losers. There is nothing more to this story, he won (prolly with some bets on the sharper side) ---> he goes.
This place is full of BI shills, so nothing that those posters say counts for anything.
All you need to do is add 1 and 1, and the result is 2 aka they are a small and hyped squares only book.

**princecharles** · 09-06-12, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by chilidog

I haven't tried to gamble with BetIslands, but they won't let me be an affiliate of theirs. They said the reason was because they don't take Costa Rican affiliates, yet when I questioned them and said that SBR was an affiliate, they never replied to me.

I think BOL has an affiliate spot open, grab it bud!

:---)

**BranchDavidian** · 09-07-12, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Monte

Gimme a break you people, geez...
They give almost too good bonuses, and...oh hell just look up the owners posts for details, he mentions it every time anyways.

So of course they only tolerate losers. There is nothing more to this story, he won (prolly with some bets on the sharper side) ---> he goes.
This place is full of BI shills, so nothing that those posters say counts for anything.
All you need to do is add 1 and 1, and the result is 2 aka they are a small and hyped squares only book.

Gimme a break, Monte, jeez.... Did you read this thread, or just the last post? The OP is not banned, he has full access to his account. The books owner has come into the thread and stated that they do not ban for winning, and this has been backed up by posters. Yet you have come up with the exact opposite conclusion based upon ..... what? Other than misinformed facts, such as, "he won --- he goes." This book may be smaller and hyped, but it is certainly not squares only, or the book would be banning SBR posters left and right. Did they ban you? Ohhh, that's right, you don't play there -- you are just the BetIslands expert. The OP was not banned, and I challenge you to find any other player that was. Until you do, I suggest you retract all the misinformation you spewed in your post.

**BranchDavidian** · 09-07-12, 08:14 AM

Originally posted by Monte

Gimme a break you people, geez...
They give almost too good bonuses, and...oh hell just look up the owners posts for details, he mentions it every time anyways.

So of course they only tolerate losers. There is nothing more to this story, he won (prolly with some bets on the sharper side) ---> he goes.
This place is full of BI shills, so nothing that those posters say counts for anything.
All you need to do is add 1 and 1, and the result is 2 aka they are a small and hyped squares only book.

I know you will just call me one of those shills, but at least what I say is factual. That should count for something. The only time that what a poster has to say should not count for anything is when they base their conclusions on incorrect facts.

**Legions36** · 09-07-12, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by BranchDavidian

I know you will just call me one of those shills, but at least what I say is factual. That should count for something. The only time that what a poster has to say should not count for anything is when they base their conclusions on incorrect facts.

Hey Branch don't take that guy Monte to serious, as he does this all the time and complains about every book he can think of. To him all we are is shills out to get him and doesn't even play at the books hes complaining about. I don't even respond back to him as he has spammed my posts with total bs, seems to me all he is is just a grumpy old loser.

**Betislands** · 09-07-12, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Monte

Gimme a break you people, geez...
They give almost too good bonuses, and...oh hell just look up the owners posts for details, he mentions it every time anyways.

So of course they only tolerate losers. There is nothing more to this story, he won (prolly with some bets on the sharper side) ---> he goes.
This place is full of BI shills, so nothing that those posters say counts for anything.
All you need to do is add 1 and 1, and the result is 2 aka they are a small and hyped squares only book.

Hi Monte,

I respect your opinion but I do have to respond to your post.

We do not tolerate losers only , in fact there are posters here that have won and beat us out of 20 , 30 , 40 k +.
These payouts documented by SBR. Sportsbooks needs to find and pick and identity and go with it a sportsbook that offers large promotions and great bonuses cannot have the same bookmaking style as a sportsbook that gives 10% bonus or no bonus at all.

Look at it this way imagine complaining to Pinnacle and asking them why they do not offer 50% freeplay? Why don't they do it ? Because it is not their business model.

And what is our business model ? If you bet your own stuff you can win and will always get paid here , if you chase steam and light up the board every single sportsbook that offers you a nice bonus will either you cut you lose or limit your betting.

In regards of our bonuses can you name another shop that pays the way we do that offers -108 juice + free half points + cash bonuses + same day payouts?

Not many , so of course I will mention that which business owner is not proud of his business? Specially one that has done right by players?

Can you find anyone that has not been paid from us ?

These are facts.

Jon

**darkhat** · 09-07-12, 01:28 PM

betislands is easily one of the top books for US players.. Even the august poll so far proves they are literally 4th out of every single fuckin sportsbook. Only Pinnacle, 5dimes, and heritage are ahead of them.

They are 4 here cause they recently combined Bookmaker and bet DSI's votes and consider it one book. So if you consider them one book Betislands is currently 4th.. either way..

Book	Total Pts	Pts#1	Pts#2	Pts#3


.	5Dimes	311	198	68	45
.	Pinnacle	214	156	40	18
.	Heritage	197	102	68	27
.	Bookmaker/BetDSI	178	60	52	66
.	BetIslands	149	60	56	33

**kmarinouofm** · 09-07-12, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Betislands

Hi Monte,

I respect your opinion but I do have to respond to your post.

We do not tolerate losers only , in fact there are posters here that have won and beat us out of 20 , 30 , 40 k +.
These payouts documented by SBR. Sportsbooks needs to find and pick and identity and go with it a sportsbook that offers large promotions and great bonuses cannot have the same bookmaking style as a sportsbook that gives 10% bonus or no bonus at all.

Look at it this way imagine complaining to Pinnacle and asking them why they do not offer 50% freeplay? Why don't they do it ? Because it is not their business model.

And what is our business model ? If you bet your own stuff you can win and will always get paid here , if you chase steam and light up the board every single sportsbook that offers you a nice bonus will either you cut you lose or limit your betting.

In regards of our bonuses can you name another shop that pays the way we do that offers -108 juice + free half points + cash bonuses + same day payouts?

Not many , so of course I will mention that which business owner is not proud of his business? Specially one that has done right by players?

Can you find anyone that has not been paid from us ?

These are facts.

Jon

Jon is a handsome man that can handle himself on the street and bangs chicks two at a time.... FACT..