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  • Spedizzo
    SBR MVP
    • 12-16-11
    • 1557

    #1
    Cashing out when bonuses have been added to an account.
    Situation:

    $400 deposited into a book, a 50% bonus with 30x rollover is accepted. Starting balance is $600.

    A few days later, the balance is at $1,500 and the rollover is halfway met.

    Is the player allowed to withdraw part of their balance (not the bonus), or am I not allowed to withdraw anything until the 30x rollover is met? I am not a big bonus guy, I accepted the offer because I figured it would be lost anyway and I wouldn't meet the rollover anyway, but I been winning quite a bit and now I am not allowed to withdraw anything until I meet that type of rollover? I went into live chat, and I was told I cannot make ANY withdrawals until the rollover is met??

    Is this normal practice?
  • BET THE HOOK
    SBR MVP
    • 02-16-09
    • 1947

    #2
    You have to complete the rollover before you can make any payout requests.
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    • BET THE HOOK
      SBR MVP
      • 02-16-09
      • 1947

      #3
      Not a great bonus by the way. 30x roll is like you got raped if you only got 50% cash.
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      • SBRMAN23
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-07-11
        • 6905

        #4
        Originally posted by BET THE HOOK
        Not a great bonus by the way. 30x roll is like you got raped if you only got 50% cash.
        yea that def does define rape man
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        • Microphone
          SBR MVP
          • 01-08-08
          • 2950

          #5
          If you want to do your scenario, play at Legends:


          ZZ12345> I'm only entitled to $1043. I didn't request the bonus, could you make that adjustment please? Thank you.
          17:56:12 Rachel> May I ask why you don't want the bonus?
          17:56:38 Rachel> Please note that you may request a withdrawal at any time, regardless of whether or not you have met the roll over. If you choose to take out the funds before meeting the roll over, we will debit the bonus from your account, and you may request the remaining balance.
          17:57:12 Rachel> You don't need to meet the roll over before cashing out, and you won't have to forfeit your winnings if you wish to cash out and haven't met the roll over
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          • HedgeHog
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-11-07
            • 10128

            #6
            Rules vary by Book (where are you playing?), but most require you to complete the RO before requesting a withdrawal. There are exceptions of course like Legends. Jazette Books (Sportsbook.com, Hollywood, BetUSA, etc...) also allow you access to your money prior to completing your RO. So you should check with your Book about their RO rules, preferably before accepting the bonus.

            BTW, the 30x RO you have--that's on the bonus only....right (otherwise you did get shafted)? If so, your $200 bonus requires 6k in action and you said it's half completed. With 3k left to give them, you're probably better off trying to complete the RO rather than forfeiting the bonus--especially if they have 10-cent baseball lines (less than $100 loss expectancy for 3k in action at 10 cent lines).
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            • BranchDavidian
              SBR MVP
              • 08-29-10
              • 1014

              #7
              Originally posted by HedgeHog
              Rules vary by Book (where are you playing?), but most require you to complete the RO before requesting a withdrawal. There are exceptions of course like Legends. Jazette Books (Sportsbook.com, Hollywood, BetUSA, etc...) also allow you access to your money prior to completing your RO. So you should check with your Book about their RO rules, preferably before accepting the bonus.

              BTW, the 30x RO you have--that's on the bonus only....right (otherwise you did get shafted)? If so, your $200 bonus requires 6k in action and you said it's half completed. With 3k left to give them, you're probably better off trying to complete the RO rather than forfeiting the bonus--especially if they have 10-cent baseball lines (less than $100 loss expectancy for 3k in action at 10 cent lines).
              With that roll-over he must be playing in a casino rather than a sportsbook.
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              • King_Suckerman
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-12-09
                • 945

                #8
                Check the rules. Some books also hold the money for x days - even if you have completed the rollover.
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                • LVHerbie
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-15-05
                  • 6344

                  #9
                  It is pretty standard with a casino/sports bonus at most places but, like hedge hog said, there are few that have different rules so you need to read them before accepting...

                  Bodog is another that will let you give the bonus back and withdraw without finishing rollover...
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                  • ProfitBettingSov
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 07-04-12
                    • 619

                    #10
                    30x rollover on a 50% bonus
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                    • Spedizzo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-16-11
                      • 1557

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BranchDavidian
                      With that roll-over he must be playing in a casino rather than a sportsbook.
                      Nope not a casino... GTBets... Believe it or not I am just about complete with this rollover and made some more money. Ended up going large on Tennis and then all in with Tiger Woods today... Stupid I know but I got pissed about this whole rollover shit. It did feel like rape but my stubbornness helped me in this case.

                      At least I know to look into this rollover hostage crap next time more carefully.
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                      • Spedizzo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-16-11
                        • 1557

                        #12
                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                        Rules vary by Book (where are you playing?), but most require you to complete the RO before requesting a withdrawal. There are exceptions of course like Legends. Jazette Books (Sportsbook.com, Hollywood, BetUSA, etc...) also allow you access to your money prior to completing your RO. So you should check with your Book about their RO rules, preferably before accepting the bonus.

                        BTW, the 30x RO you have--that's on the bonus only....right (otherwise you did get shafted)? If so, your $200 bonus requires 6k in action and you said it's half completed. With 3k left to give them, you're probably better off trying to complete the RO rather than forfeiting the bonus--especially if they have 10-cent baseball lines (less than $100 loss expectancy for 3k in action at 10 cent lines).
                        Yeah it was only on the bonus. I ended up completing most of it in the early AM on golf and tennis. I usually bet baseball and that's where my money has been made but here is the kicker... I have to fufill 3000 points to complete my rollover... MLB gives you 2 points on every 10 dollars... Other sports gives you 5 points on 10 dollars. Is that normal too? Or just another effort to keep your money hostage since baseball is always on and rollovers can be made fast that way?

                        In any case I am glad this rollover nightmare is almost over.
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                        • darkhat
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-18-10
                          • 5722

                          #13
                          LOL 30x rollover on 50%.. you can get 100% bonuses with 10x
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                          • Hankwins
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-17-10
                            • 2232

                            #14
                            if you're strictly a sportsbettor that is an outrageous RO, however if like the casino it's very easy to get 3000 points. I always end up with 1000 points from $50 deposits at GTbets(however i bet sports and play alot of blackjack.
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                            • taxer
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 05-31-11
                              • 630

                              #15
                              i agree 50% with 30 x roll can you please name the book?>

                              That seems a little bit far fetched
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                              • brendon
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 443

                                #16
                                that's not a 30x rollover....it's more like 5x. I know GTbets, i'm playing with them. their rollover is around 4-6x depending on the promo
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                                • Spedizzo
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-16-11
                                  • 1557

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by brendon
                                  that's not a 30x rollover....it's more like 5x. I know GTbets, i'm playing with them. their rollover is around 4-6x depending on the promo
                                  You're wrong. I don't need to make a thread to lie on here. The bonus I got was a 30x rollover on 400 and this was a week or ago ago so I am sure this is still what they are doing on new accounts. Had I known I couldn't make a withdrawal until it was met I wouldn't have signed up. When I first asked to make a withdrawal I wagered over 3000$ worth of bets and I was barely halfway done with my rollover.

                                  Come again.
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                                  • brendon
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-10-09
                                    • 443

                                    #18
                                    lol dude, you don't have a clue and you're say i'm wrong. If you're wagered $3000 and you're barely over half of rollover, what math are you doing to get 30x ? take a math class then come again,
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                                    • davidchong
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-10-06
                                      • 1806

                                      #19
                                      how you accept 30x bonus, crazy
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                                      • Spedizzo
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-16-11
                                        • 1557

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by brendon
                                        lol dude, you don't have a clue and you're say i'm wrong. If you're wagered $3000 and you're barely over half of rollover, what math are you doing to get 30x ? take a math class then come again,
                                        Uhh, you're wrong because there is a 30x rollover? What is a 30x rollover on a 200$ bonus genius? And if you don't believe me go in a fukkin live chat and ask for the rollover amount on the 50% on new account deposits before you volunteer as the ambassador of GTBets. I don't need to make this shit up. The bonus insane and I wouldn't have done it had I known I couldn't get any withdrawals. So before you tell me to "get a clue" and "take a math class" get your own shit straight.
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                                        • brendon
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 443

                                          #21
                                          i have an account there. i've withdrawn 3 payouts in the last 4 months. you don't know how the industry work, there's no sense continueing this. gl
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                                          • Spedizzo
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-16-11
                                            • 1557

                                            #22
                                            Lmao I don't give a shit if you had an account there for 3 years. You came in this thread telling me the rollover on new account deposits at this time ISN'T 50% with a 30x rollover. It is. You're wrong. Now get the fuk outta the thread. GL (get laid)
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                                            • brendon
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 443

                                              #23
                                              it's like arguing with a damn monkey.
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                                              • Spedizzo
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-16-11
                                                • 1557

                                                #24
                                                I don't understand... If you don't believe me go in the live chat and ask... Yet you still come here without checking the facts. Why? Get off GTBets dick clown.
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                                                • brendon
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                  • 443

                                                  #25
                                                  look, stupid, learn the industry first then stop complaining like a little bitch about a normnal rollover. it's common in the industry that deposit+bonus x rollover= amount needed to bet through.

                                                  in your case, it's a 10x rollover, not 30x. and that's pretty much standard.
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                                                  • Spedizzo
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-16-11
                                                    • 1557

                                                    #26
                                                    Learn the industry? You're a fukkin degenerate clown. It's a 30x rollover only on the bonus as I specified earlier, as Hedgehog went through in his post as well. I don't give a shit what you consider industry standard, I made the thread asking if I could make a withdrawal prior to that being completed because I was unsure. That is what forums are for. I also found out other books let you withdraw prior to the bonus being complete, GTBets does not. This thread wasn't about what books have the best bonuses, what's the industry standard, who has the largest dick, and how many guys teabagged your mother. It was about withdrawing when a bonus is applied.

                                                    Btw, what happened to you originally saying its like a 5x rollover? Not even close. Now get the fuk out.
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                                                    • Spedizzo
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-16-11
                                                      • 1557

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Spedizzo
                                                      Yeah it was only on the bonus. I ended up completing most of it in the early AM on golf and tennis. I usually bet baseball and that's where my money has been made but here is the kicker... I have to fufill 3000 points to complete my rollover... MLB gives you 2 points on every 10 dollars... Other sports gives you 5 points on 10 dollars. Is that normal too? Or just another effort to keep your money hostage since baseball is always on and rollovers can be made fast that way?

                                                      In any case I am glad this rollover nightmare is almost over.
                                                      brendon = stupid thread instigating fuk
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                                                      • Spedizzo
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-16-11
                                                        • 1557

                                                        #28
                                                        Btw if you wager only on baseball, and you accept a 50% bonus of 200 on 400 dollars... you have to wager $15,000 before you're allowed to make any withdrawals. What's the rollover on that? Clown
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                                                        • brendon
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 443

                                                          #29
                                                          once again, stupid, u posted a thread stating 30x rollover on gtbets...which is not. everyone started questioning why you're so stupid to accept a 30x rollover. you didn't even know the concept of rollover until hedgehog stated its 30x the bonus. i got a promo that was 6x so i deposit and cashed out several times in the past 4 months, so i know what the rollover is. that's why i posted it can't be right being 30x...we're not even arguing the same thing because don't even understand how bonus rules work .
                                                          when someone say rollover, it's pretty common knowledge that's it's dep+bonus.... you complain like a bitch how the bonus held you hostage and nightmare. u fool, u completed rollover in less than a week!!! so much for the 30x rollover
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                                                          • Spedizzo
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-16-11
                                                            • 1557

                                                            #30
                                                            I said it's a rollover on THE BONUS. BEFORE you stuck you stupid fukkin nose in here. It is a 30x rollover on the bonus. It is hilarious how this issue concerns you so deeply. And the rollover is almost twice as much if you bet only on baseball. It's still a shit bonus.

                                                            And for your information I NEVER originally complained about the bonus, I inquired about NOT BEING ABLE TO WITHDRAW ANYTHING UNTIL IT WAS MET, WHICH IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT. Obviously I wasn't informed, so I made a thread in this forum, as I figured it was intended for. Not everyone is a sportsbook degenerate like you. If thats what gets you laid and through life, god speed.

                                                            People at other books are able to withdraw without the rollover being met, at GTBets you cannot.

                                                            For the 3rd time I ask, despite you graciously bowing out earlier and not following through, get the fuk out.
                                                            Last edited by Spedizzo; 07-25-12, 12:08 AM.
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                                                            • brendon
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 443

                                                              #31
                                                              lol ok dude, like talking to a monkey
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                                                              • Spedizzo
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-16-11
                                                                • 1557

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by brendon
                                                                i got a promo that was 6x so i deposit and cashed out several times in the past 4 months, so i know what the rollover is.


                                                                Awesome dude! That must mean all bonuses on new account deposits are the same thing! Thanks for your relevant information brah
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