188bet do not longer accept german customers ... alternatives ??

**horja1** · 07-04-12, 07:04 AM

12bet?

**Bass386** · 07-04-12, 07:12 AM

I am registered by 12bet, but for european customers they do not have a asian view ... so I don't bet by 12bet ...

**horja1** · 07-04-12, 07:14 AM

can't you chose Asia as location and use your login details?

**jairocon** · 07-04-12, 07:43 AM

Even if you use asia - as soon as you log in - it directs you to the european view - which does suck balls. I almost never come to 12bet anymore - mainly because of this.

**horja1** · 07-04-12, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by jairocon

Even if you use asia - as soon as you log in - it directs you to the european view - which does suck balls. I almost never come to 12bet anymore - mainly because of this.

did you talk to CS to see if they can help?

**Chopsticks** · 07-04-12, 08:18 AM

Sent you a pm with some alternatives with same odds.

For the record, 12bet asian view works for me.

**Uga** · 07-04-12, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Bass386

I am really sad about the current situation in germany.

Why did you vote on Merkel?

**Gallin** · 07-04-12, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Chopsticks

Sent you a pm with some alternatives with same odds.

For the record, 12bet asian view works for me.

There are 188bet clones? Please share. I'm limited to 10€ on 188bet... Would love to bet there again.

**King_Suckerman** · 07-04-12, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Gallin

There are 188bet clones? Please share. I'm limited to 10€ on 188bet... Would love to bet there again.

I'd be interested to know too.

**Chopsticks** · 07-04-12, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Gallin

There are 188bet clones? Please share. I'm limited to 10€ on 188bet... Would love to bet there again.

No there are not. 188 themselves are a clone.

The problem with the bookies with the same odds is that they will often have at least one of these obstacles:
Only have Chinese language available.

Very restrictive deposit methods (Chinese banking) available.

Only RMB currency.

There are a handful of exceptions though but I am not sure to what extent I would recommend any. I will pm you links to some banner farms which should keep you busy for a while.

**slash** · 07-04-12, 02:04 PM

Why not use pinnacle???

**ylitil** · 07-04-12, 03:00 PM

just curious, what was changed in germany or regarding german customers?

**barba** · 07-04-12, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Bass386

Hey,

during the new regulation on the german sportsbetting market, 188bet do not longer accept german customers.

Please be kind and explain us the new regulation of sportbetting market in Germany .

**Ruifgalmeida** · 07-04-12, 03:45 PM

problably sbobet is your best choice.

**Birre** · 07-04-12, 04:45 PM

dafabet, same odds as 12bet but higher limits

**pellumb341** · 07-04-12, 04:48 PM

what about bwin ? does it take anymore costumers from germany ? i mean , all books will not take anymore costumers from germany ?

**Bass386** · 07-04-12, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Uga

Why did you vote on Merkel?

Merkel is not the problem. In germany we have 16 federal states. And the laws for gambling make not Merkel, the laws makes the states.

Schleswig Holstein has other laws then the other 15 states. But now Schleswig Holstein has a new government and they want to void the issued licences.

But the law of the 15 states is againt the european laws and against our highest constitution.

**Bass386** · 07-04-12, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by pellumb341

what about bwin ? does it take anymore costumers from germany ? i mean , all books will not take anymore costumers from germany ?

Paddypower, 188bet and betoto do not accept german customers. bwin and so on accept us.

**barba** · 07-06-12, 05:00 PM

Please be kind and explain us the new regulation of sportsbetting market in Germany

**pellumb341** · 07-07-12, 06:53 AM

Paddypower, 188bet and betoto do not accept german customers. bwin and so on accept us.

what about Gamebookers and partybets ?

**Bass386** · 07-08-12, 09:44 PM

You can bet by partybets or gamebookers.

The new regulation in short:
- 5 % taxes on every bet. So you bet 100 Euro, you must pay 5 Euro taxes
- Only 20 licenses ( I think that oddset get a licence its sure, because oddset is a national bookmaker )
- Maximum 1.000 Euro are allowed to bet per month. You can bet 100 times 10 Euro or one time 1.000 Euro. But the maximum of 1.000 Euro is per Bookie.

The new rules are unfair and they are against our and the european laws. But at the moment, we cant make anything.

**pellumb341** · 07-09-12, 05:22 AM

5 % taxes on every bet. So you bet 100 Euro, you must pay 5 Euro taxes

Maximum 1.000 Euro are allowed to bet per month. You can bet 100 times 10 Euro or one time 1.000 Euro. But the maximum of 1.000 Euro is per Bookie.

such bullshits ,1.000 EUR a month ,what a ridiculous amount

it's better to leave the german market .

**barba** · 07-09-12, 03:54 PM

1) 1 000 eur/month per book...Ok this is really bad, but it isn't terrible....if you bet on 10 books, you can wager 10 000 eur/month and if you are a good tipster and can get for example 7 % yield you have 700 euros/month, it's far from good, but again, it's not terrible

2) 5 % on every placed bet....this is terrible, you won't have those 7 % yield because of that tax, you will only have 2 %, which is really bad and practically this becomes a law that forbids professional betting

This is the kind of business in which you must take the opportunity and get the money today, because the next day betting will be completely illegal in your county or some bookmaker will putt your country on the black list

**Bass386** · 07-13-12, 12:39 AM

Interwetten is the next Bookie who takes 5 % tax for every bet.

Furthermore german players cant play odds under 1.10. Really funny. I think Interwetten will go down in Germany.

But how is the situation in france ?? They take 8 % tax per every bet ?!?! But when you live in france you can register by william hill. Has william hill a france license ?? And has the france players the same odds like the players from england ??

**filipinho** · 07-13-12, 03:10 AM

This is robbing...Why they just dont take 10% of net profit from every bookmaker?

And germany is the role model country for others.

**bookiebutcher** · 07-13-12, 06:11 AM

A good alternative for 12bet or 188bet is SBObet.
It's also an asian bookie with high payouts, I never had any problems with limits.
Or you can try Dafabet, same odds as 12bet, although I have no experience with this book

**Bass386** · 07-13-12, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by filipinho

This is robbing...Why they just dont take 10% of net profit from every bookmaker?

And germany is the role model country for others.

Yeahh thats robbing, but our politicians are stupid.
A special commission says, that they should take 20 % from the profit, but the politic don't catch these words.

So the illegal market in germany will be continue for a whole time.

**tukkk** · 07-13-12, 07:49 PM

what about 10Bet, how are the payouts and do they limit?

and does Dafabet limit?