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  • matt892
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-07-11
    • 121

    #1
    Appears someone get into my BI account
    Placed bets this morning. Just checked into my account and they left me with 17 dollars. Lost over 1000, kind of sucks.

    Betislands is my favorite book. Do you think any of these sports books will ever get an authenticator key?
  • BigDaddy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-01-06
    • 8378

    #2
    what kind of bets?

    do you usually bet daily yourself?
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    • matt892
      SBR High Roller
      • 11-07-11
      • 121

      #3
      I usually bet in the mornings. It was all lost in the casino
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      • BigDaddy
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-01-06
        • 8378

        #4
        ok so it was the casino
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        • princecharles
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-22-10
          • 827

          #5
          I don't know what really happened here, but the incidents of alleged unauthorized account usage is growing.
          Would you put it past a more shady book to be behind this from the inside?

          As I wrote in the Betonline case last week, this is the only industry that treats passwords so cavalierly, in addition to tier one customer service agents having full visibility of the accounts' most sensitive information.

          There needs to be at the very least a dual layer of security, as in a phone in phrase or pin to verify a customer, separate from the account's sole password that now is like a skeleton key as one word provides access to every facet of the account's actions.
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          • Parlayking11
            SBR Sharp
            • 03-01-12
            • 267

            #6
            Originally posted by matt892
            I usually bet in the mornings. It was all lost in the casino

            Code for " i got really drunk last night and lost my bankroll in the casino". Now I'm going to go to SBR and start a complaint thread so it looks like I'm telling the truth when I call BI this morning asking for all of my "stolen" money back! This is a joke!! Dude stay out of the casino and you won't have these problems! LOL
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            • Kindred
              SBR MVP
              • 09-09-08
              • 2901

              #7
              LastPass is a firefox/chrome plugin saves all your passwords and you can use it to generate a secure password for each site and you don't have to worry about remembering the password, Lastpass will remember it. There's other password tools like that, lastpass is just my favorite. But you really need a unique strong password for any site that involves money. If you use the same password at say SBR and BI and SBR is hacked then the hacker has your email address and password and can just try it at all gambling sites. Every site should have it's own unique password.

              If your BI account was really hacked then ask Betislands to check and see what IP the hacker was using. And make sure your computer is clean no malware and use strong unique passwords for every site, especially ones that involve money.
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              • Betislands
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-17-11
                • 547

                #8
                Hi Matt,

                Please contact me with your user name so we may do an IP check on your account , this is the first I hear about this .. these issues are better handled when the book is informed first not by reading the board.

                Cheers!

                Jon
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                • mtneer1212
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-22-08
                  • 4993

                  #9
                  Disable the casino. Disable the casino. Disable the casino.

                  It keeps people from draining you when they hack you, and it keeps you from playing something that is a losing proposition forever. Live casinos are the only acceptable exception.
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                  • BrianLaverty
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-02-07
                    • 2183

                    #10
                    Mountaineer...I disabled casino at 5dimes and someone still broke into it and stole my money by requesting it open via live chat.
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                    • MBENZ
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-07-07
                      • 5238

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BrianLaverty
                      Mountaineer...I disabled casino at 5dimes and someone still broke into it and stole my money by requesting it open via live chat.
                      What did you have to do to ensure that never happens again?I always disable that crap but your post makes me wonder.TIA.
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                      • BrianLaverty
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-02-07
                        • 2183

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MBENZ
                        What did you have to do to ensure that never happens again?I always disable that crap but your post makes me wonder.TIA.
                        Well.. for one thing, I got banned from 5dimes once I argued with Tony and he realized that I was up 20K on them.

                        But... really.. Ive jut been changing my passwords every week at the sites that I currently play with.. nothing more I can do about it really.
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                        • PharaohUB
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-23-07
                          • 4865

                          #13
                          I'm sorry... but what motive would a hacker have to hack an account and then play in the casino? It's not like they would ever be able to see the money. These threads make me laugh.
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                          • 5mike5
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-21-11
                            • 51884

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PharaohUB
                            I'm sorry... but what motive would a hacker have to hack an account and then play in the casino? It's not like they would ever be able to see the money. These threads make me laugh.
                            ive asked that same question...makes 0 sense to me
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                            • relaaxx
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-15-06
                              • 3281

                              #15
                              assholes don't use logic. plenty of things happen that make no sense. jon will figure out this particular case. but just to dismiss it because there is no apparent motive. doesn't seem like the correct response.
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                              • wtt0315
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-18-07
                                • 8037

                                #16
                                just funny to me he comes on here first before he even contacts the book. I am pretty sure if it was me I would be on the phone with the book the second I noticed
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                                • 5mike5
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-21-11
                                  • 51884

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by wtt0315
                                  just funny to me he comes on here first before he even contacts the book. I am pretty sure if it was me I would be on the phone with the book the second I noticed
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                                  • Hareeba!
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 07-01-06
                                    • 36975

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PharaohUB
                                    I'm sorry... but what motive would a hacker have to hack an account and then play in the casino? It's not like they would ever be able to see the money. These threads make me laugh.
                                    Absolutely no doubt this does happen.

                                    Motive can be just the thrill of doing something one isn't allowed to do. Rebellion against society.

                                    Same as vandalism.
                                    Last edited by Hareeba!; 05-02-12, 04:25 PM.
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                                    • LordVodka
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-17-09
                                      • 5206

                                      #19
                                      So when this happens who does it? Is it an angry employee?
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                                      • BigDaddy
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-01-06
                                        • 8378

                                        #20
                                        disable it

                                        have them put a note in the account that it can never be turned back on

                                        no matter what.

                                        get an email stating such

                                        so if it does ever happen the book would be in the wrong.
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                                        • Parlayking11
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 03-01-12
                                          • 267

                                          #21
                                          So if the "hacker" would have hit it big in the online casino, how fast would it take for this guy to request a payout??
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                                          • baskets
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-24-11
                                            • 11691

                                            #22
                                            happened to me 5 times

                                            had 800k in each of my 5 accts


                                            but I expect to win my 4 million back on the Dodgers tomorrow
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                                            • BranchDavidian
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-29-10
                                              • 1014

                                              #23
                                              My account at Absolute Poker was hacked a few of years back, and the hacker went to the high stakes tables to play. Absolute figured the security breach was my fault -- perhaps correctly. But I still asked to have the lost money returned from whomever the chips were dumped to. Their fraud investigator said that he didn't think the chips were dumped. He said that they had determined that the hacker just hacked the money to go play for the fun of it at the high stakes tables. I have no idea how they made this determination. Of course, this was a very self-serving on their part. But it shows that there doesn't need to be any logical reason to hack and go to a casino to lose someone else's money according to that fraud investigator.
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                                              • MagicDiceFlow
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-15-12
                                                • 4585

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by matt892
                                                Placed bets this morning. Just checked into my account and they left me with 17 dollars. Lost over 1000, kind of sucks.

                                                Betislands is my favorite book. Do you think any of these sports books will ever get an authenticator key?
                                                Dont believe you dude. First of all, if someone hacked into your account, the first thing you would do is contact BI about it. Sounds like you were afraid to contact them first so you went ahead and posted it here to get sympathy.

                                                Second, if you lost over $1,000 , that wouldnt just "kind of sucks". The tone of your post just doesnt fit.
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                                                • downtown2222
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 02-17-09
                                                  • 130

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Parlayking11
                                                  Code for " i got really drunk last night and lost my bankroll in the casino". Now I'm going to go to SBR and start a complaint thread so it looks like I'm telling the truth when I call BI this morning asking for all of my "stolen" money back! This is a joke!! Dude stay out of the casino and you won't have these problems! LOL
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                                                  • Rollins08
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 04-20-07
                                                    • 1337

                                                    #26
                                                    I agree with everyone here. How many people would take the time to steal a password just to play in a casino? There has to be a hand history, can you see what they played? Do you have any enemies that you share your sportsbook passwords with? Maybe Tony at 5dimes?
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                                                    • Hareeba!
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 07-01-06
                                                      • 36975

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Rollins08
                                                      I agree with everyone here. How many people would take the time to steal a password just to play in a casino? There has to be a hand history, can you see what they played? Do you have any enemies that you share your sportsbook passwords with? Maybe Tony at 5dimes?
                                                      Cleary you don't agree with "everyone". Or should that be, not everyone agrees with you?

                                                      I do believe this kind of thing happens.

                                                      There are lots of sickos out there who just want to demonstrate their ability to make a nuisance of themselves by developing and spreading viruses, destroying property etc. for no end benefit to themselves other than perhaps gaining some sort of respect from their like-minded mates.
                                                      Last edited by Hareeba!; 05-03-12, 09:57 PM.
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                                                      • the_situation
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-22-10
                                                        • 2735

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                        Cleary you don't agree with "everyone". Or should that be, not everyone agrees with you?

                                                        I do believe this kind of thing happens.

                                                        There are lots of sickos out there who just want to demonstrate their ability to make a nuisance of themselves by developing and spreading viruses, destroying property etc. for no end benefit to themselves other than perhaps gaining some sort of respect from their like-minded mates.
                                                        this
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                                                        • brendon
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-10-09
                                                          • 443

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MagicDiceFlow
                                                          Dont believe you dude. First of all, if someone hacked into your account, the first thing you would do is contact BI about it. Sounds like you were afraid to contact them first so you went ahead and posted it here to get sympathy.

                                                          Second, if you lost over $1,000 , that wouldnt just "kind of sucks". The tone of your post just doesnt fit.
                                                          Yeah, the tone doesn't seem right. I call bs on this.
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                                                          • brendon
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 443

                                                            #30
                                                            my bank recently made an error for $500 on my account. The first thing i did was call them. the customer rep couldn't give me a definitely answer so i demanded to talk to a supervisor. and i started to question the manager how they could made such an error and their procedures. I was on fire!!!
                                                            The op first reaction was to sbr and posted a thread? man, you either extremely calm person or you're full of shit
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                                                            • Hareeba!
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 07-01-06
                                                              • 36975

                                                              #31
                                                              What I find quite intriguing is that so many seem to disbelieve the OP on the grounds mainly, it seems, that it unlikely that the perpetrator of this crime has anything to gain. But what has the OP to gain by posting a lie?
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                                                              • Easy-Rider 66
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-14-12
                                                                • 36088

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                What I find quite intriguing is that so many seem to disbelieve the OP on the grounds mainly, it seems, that it unlikely that the perpetrator of this crime has anything to gain. But what has the OP to gain by posting a lie?
                                                                Maybe so. But why wouldn't he contact the shop and ask them to do an ip check before you go posting on the board. In addition, like some mentioned his casual attitude about getting fleeced for 1K. Overall, I do not buy his story.
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                                                                • DrIn$entive
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 12-29-11
                                                                  • 411

                                                                  #33
                                                                  OP, any update?
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                                                                  • witt
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 03-12-12
                                                                    • 35

                                                                    #34
                                                                    if it is true hope u get your money back
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                                                                    • PharaohUB
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-23-07
                                                                      • 4865

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                                      What I find quite intriguing is that so many seem to disbelieve the OP on the grounds mainly, it seems, that it unlikely that the perpetrator of this crime has anything to gain. But what has the OP to gain by posting a lie?

                                                                      Get his money back he drunkenly lost in the casino?
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