Betislands moving lines back and forth

**Believeland** · 02-15-12, 11:44 AM

I know what your talking about.. I only bet during the football season..... I've had them change a full point on me more then 5 times... I'd place my bet and that stupid red color would come up saying the lines changed a half point. I accept changes proceed then it comes up again and has gone up a full point now.. How does a line move a half point every 5 seconds

**SBRMAN23** · 02-15-12, 01:48 PM

Yes it def does happen a little to much it is crazy accept changes accept changes come the f on even thou they have the best Cs

**sharpcat** · 02-15-12, 02:00 PM

I think you guys are misunderstanding what I am saying here.

It is a well known fact that books often move lines and that is their right to do so and I do not have a problem with that.

What I have a problem with is what I have caught them doing several times now where I attempt to bet team A in a matchup and the book moves the line in the books favor so I cancel the wager, I than try to bet team B at the new price and the line moves again in the books favor. The book is jacking the price up on both sides of the game on me.

-190/+170::::: I try to bet +170.........line moves
-180/+160::::: I now try to bet -180.........line moves again
-185/+165:::::

**MTA** · 02-15-12, 02:16 PM

"What I have a problem with is what I have caught them doing several times now where I attempt to bet team A in a matchup and the book moves the line in the books favor so I cancel the wager, I than try to bet team B at the new price and the line moves again in the books favor. The book is jacking the price up on both sides of the game on me." by sharpcat

I had that experienced before with some other shops (no need to mention what shop) and it actually got me big time! I got burned from 1/2 a point moving back and forth "to their favor!". THAT SUCKS!

**bubba** · 02-15-12, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

I think you guys are misunderstanding what I am saying here.

It is a well known fact that books often move lines and that is their right to do so and I do not have a problem with that.

What I have a problem with is what I have caught them doing several times now where I attempt to bet team A in a matchup and the book moves the line in the books favor so I cancel the wager, I than try to bet team B at the new price and the line moves again in the books favor. The book is jacking the price up on both sides of the game on me.

-190/+170::::: I try to bet +170.........line moves
-180/+160::::: I now try to bet -180.........line moves again
-185/+165:::::

they 100% have done this to me with regards to props. because of this i call in most wagers. lets say a line is -115 each way and i tried to place a wager. they often will turn it into -135 no matter which side of the game i bet on (long delay involved). its unethical among st other things. you cant move a line becasue a wager is being placed, you move a line if you were going to move the line without the wager (during my 30+second delay).

becasue of this i call in my wagers there whenever i can.

**5mike5** · 02-15-12, 02:24 PM

pathetic they do this no matter what the wager is on either side....couldnt deal with that...thanks for the heads-up

**sharpcat** · 02-15-12, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by bubba

they 100% have done this to me with regards to props. because of this i call in most wagers. lets say a line is -115 each way and i tried to place a wager. they often will turn it into -135 no matter which side of the game i bet on (long delay involved). its unethical among st other things. you cant move a line becasue a wager is being placed, you move a line if you were going to move the line without the wager (during my 30+second delay).

becasue of this i call in my wagers there whenever i can.

They often move lines on me but a couple of times now I have canceled the wager and bet the other side of the wager just to see what they would do and have caught them several times now moving the line 2 different times either direction within a minute.

This is shady and would never be acceptable by the LVGC.

Absolutely disgusting behavior by a B rated book!!!!

**RonPaul2008** · 02-15-12, 02:29 PM

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**taxer** · 02-15-12, 02:45 PM

Sounds to me like you are playing steam left and right.. Any book that gives you a big bonus and sees someone playing moves will do this they are a solid book if you want to play steam then you have to deal with the aftermath , any stuff I play that I think is gonna move I go to bookmaker I mean if you wanna bet like a pro why bet at a recreational shop.. And then complaint when they catch you on the move.. They are not the shop for that

**sharpcat** · 02-15-12, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by taxer

Sounds to me like you are playing steam left and right.. Any book that gives you a big bonus and sees someone playing moves will do this they are a solid book if you want to play steam then you have to deal with the aftermath , any stuff I play that I think is gonna move I go to bookmaker I mean if you wanna bet like a pro why bet at a recreational shop.. And then complaint when they catch you on the move.. They are not the shop for that

I. Benesova
vs.
S. Halep

Pinnacle line history

4:45:53 a.m. -180/+162
6:24:48 a.m. -176/+159

Betislands line history

4:17:19 a.m. -200/+170
6:43:45 a.m. -180/+160
6:44:52 a.m. -185/+165

Pinnacle last moved their line 20 minutes before I placed my bet thats not a steam move but way to make an ASSumption. And the other times I have caught them doing this has been on prop bets where many different books are offering differing odds.

Pathetic nonetheless that a book would do this on max $250 wagers, they should be happy that they have a player who they respect to help set these lines for them for a small profit of $5.

**bubba** · 02-15-12, 03:11 PM

Originally posted by taxer

Sounds to me like you are playing steam left and right.. Any book that gives you a big bonus and sees someone playing moves will do this they are a solid book if you want to play steam then you have to deal with the aftermath , any stuff I play that I think is gonna move I go to bookmaker I mean if you wanna bet like a pro why bet at a recreational shop.. And then complaint when they catch you on the move.. They are not the shop for that

for my case, it was the furthest things from steam where this happened. it would be in stagnant markets overnight. that how i knew something was fishy. line was staying as is for hours on end untill i tried to place a 250 wager. sometimes i would then try to place the other side and same things happen.

to reiterate this was 100% not steam. they were changing the line because of my attempted wager. no more, no less.

**thejrichshow85** · 02-15-12, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by taxer

Sounds to me like you are playing steam left and right.. Any book that gives you a big bonus and sees someone playing moves will do this they are a solid book if you want to play steam then you have to deal with the aftermath , any stuff I play that I think is gonna move I go to bookmaker I mean if you wanna bet like a pro why bet at a recreational shop.. And then complaint when they catch you on the move.. They are not the shop for that

my thoughts exactly sounds like you steam every chance you get and now they are watching you closely... I've been playing there for over a year now and have never ran in to any such problems. i have no idea why people want to try to take advantage of solid books and then try to trash there name after getting caught.

**durito** · 02-15-12, 06:09 PM

I put in 20 props once and they moved the line on every single one during the delay.

**Legions36** · 02-15-12, 09:39 PM

Hey sharpcat u at it again? We really need to know are there any books out there that satisfy your needs or at least like? Not even 2 days before u were just complaining about another book.

**Winner_13** · 02-16-12, 01:25 AM

well its a rec book and cannot afford to pay u guys for hammering their lines that are off.

i would say go play at pinny were u will have no problems but obvs u guys r just betting which ever lines they have that are off.

what do you expect rec books to do?

**sharpcat** · 02-16-12, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by Legions36

Hey sharpcat u at it again? We really need to know are there any books out there that satisfy your needs or at least like? Not even 2 days before u were just complaining about another book.

Tons of books out there that would satisfy your needs

Much harder for those of us with at least half of a brain though.

**sharpcat** · 02-16-12, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by Winner_13

well its a rec book and cannot afford to pay u guys for hammering their lines that are off.

i would say go play at pinny were u will have no problems but obvs u guys r just betting which ever lines they have that are off.

what do you expect rec books to do?

Maybe tell the dipshit that is sitting around waiting for me to make a bet so he can move the line to stop jerking off and set their lines so that they are not dependent on me to do it for them.

**taxer** · 02-16-12, 08:13 AM

First off your comparing betislands to pinnacle .. Huge mistake how are you going to compare a book that gives you 100 match freeplay to a book like pinny. You are playing overnight moving markets and it seems they are all moving to your favor or at least most of them are.. I have an account there and this has never happened. For weird ass soccer bets heritage has really stepped it up. Betislands is a good book that pays that offers great cs you should just cashout maybe

**Monte** · 02-16-12, 08:28 AM

Too many idiots here (or shillburgers like legions) who think stuff is personal, these are exactly the reports we need about books.
Go fukk yourself with your pink "this book is da bomb" world.

**Legions36** · 02-16-12, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Tons of books out there that would satisfy your needs

Much harder for those of us with at least half of a brain though.

So now in your eyes anyone who uses Betislands doesn't have a brain? I would love to hear about some books that u do like?

**Legions36** · 02-16-12, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Monte

Too many idiots here (or shillburgers like legions) who think stuff is personal, these are exactly the reports we need about books.
Go fukk yourself with your pink "this book is da bomb" world.

Lol anyone who uses the word (shillburger) must have something wrong with them. But i do agree with u this book is very good and i cant believe my eyes with what im reading here about them.

**taxer** · 02-16-12, 10:55 AM

shills why?

They offer good bonuses , good CS and they pay and they good .. the day I hear about people not getting paid or their CS sucking then my outlook on them will change.

**Winner_13** · 02-16-12, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Maybe tell the dipshit that is sitting around waiting for me to make a bet so he can move the line to stop jerking off and set their lines so that they are not dependent on me to do it for them.

haha that made me laugh out loud.