best ibc sister site/skin?

[benandjerry]

I've been leaning dafabet, they've taken away their first deposit bonus, which isnt a big deal for me as long as they are offering top notch odds. But I also read they're crippling odds for EU customers so that they are a tick below what the odds comparison sites are showing, is this still the case? What about limitations of accounts here, I think they're ok in this department and doesnt limit players, or have they started with that too recently?

12bet - seems to be limiting players pretty quickly.
acbet - there seems to be some concern regarding them on here recently plus they are new so not sure about them, dont mind the first deposit bonus they offer but its not a big plus either as I'm not looking to whore.

I know there are other skins, but any worth considering? Which should I go for and for what reason?

[prop]

12bet is the most reputable out of the bunch -but basically a recreational sportsbook focusing in areas where 100 EUR is a lot of money (monthly cost of renting a 3-bedroom home for many of their clients). The fact they're so proactive limiting punters yet offer free payouts that arrive to bank accounts next day actually speaks volumes for their credibility. They're a recreational sportsbook great at what they do. A+ by SBR standards imo for anyone betting less than 200 EUR per game. If you're beating them to live moves too often expect that to be 99 EUR and if continuing 49 EUR soon enough. If you're just shopping them against a couple other books when ready to make a bet can wager 200 EUR a game forever and never have a problem. This works well for many in their primary markets but won't work as well for some Europeans.

[benandjerry]

Thanks for your input. Anyone else?

Hareeba, if you see this post, whats your take on this?

[benandjerry]

Giving this a last bump. Any input is appreciated.

[pjesnik24]

I believe 12bet was bought by dafabet and dafabet has bigger limits. mansion88 should be safe too, but I am not sure what happened to their moneybookers deposits and low limits

[benandjerry]

I believe 12bet was bought by dafabet and dafabet has bigger limits. mansion88 should be safe too, but I am not sure what happened to their moneybookers deposits and low limits

Thanks, this with the limits is what I've heard as well. But I think I also read some concerns about dafa starting to limit certain players, as well as both crippling (euro?) customers odds by a tick or two. Any site that doesnt support moneybookers isnt really interesting.

These sites always takes their odds directly from ibc, right?

Can anyone shed some light on how poor the limits are on US sports, better worse or equal to 188bet and sbobet (who generally are slightly better than 188bet).

Thanks

[Pat McCrotch]

Thanks, this with the limits is what I've heard as well. But I think I also read some concerns about dafa starting to limit certain players, as well as both crippling (euro?) customers odds by a tick or two. Any site that doesnt support moneybookers isnt really interesting.

These sites always takes their odds directly from ibc, right?

Can anyone shed some light on how poor the limits are on US sports, better worse or equal to 188bet and sbobet (who generally are slightly better than 188bet).

Thanks

188 bet and sbobet are awful for us sports, only good for 1 thing - soccer!!!

[benandjerry]

188 bet and sbobet are awful for us sports, only good for 1 thing - soccer!!!

Football (soccer) is obviously their speciality. But a 3k ish on a few US sports (pro normally, college usually kinda crappy though I think you can get 1,5k in on bowl games) isnt too shabby, and more than sufficient for some, thats at SBO, 188bet is normally a bit worse.

[in play, run(s)]

If you don't want to use IBCBet, Dafabet is currently the best option for Euro players. I don't know about Mansion88, left them long ago, but you can give them a try. You can also check out 1bet.com, but I don't use them, they seem shady. By the way, all of these are no skins, they are not affiliated to IBCBet, they just use software and odds from IBCBet.

[benandjerry]

If you don't want to use IBCBet, Dafabet is currently the best option for Euro players. I don't know about Mansion88, left them long ago, but you can give them a try. You can also check out 1bet.com, but I don't use them, they seem shady. By the way, all of these are no skins, they are not affiliated to IBCBet, they just use software and odds from IBCBet.

Ok, thanks. Is it true that dafabet are crippling odds? There was a thread about it on here, and I see you even replied and comfirmed that they did this, but I guess nothing has changed to the better again?

I would absolutely want to go with IBC, the only problem is finding reputable agents you're willing to go through...

[ChewFu]

Dafabet has increased the juice it takes for EU players. As with all things, it depends on what you want to bet on. If it's football (what Americans call soccer) handicaps, SBOBet, 188 and Dafabet/12Bet (last two has same odds I think) will be tough to beat. For all other sports, there's usually a better alternative. Mansion88 recently closed its doors to some countries, the UK being one of the now banned territories.

Limits aren't huge on sports aside from football, which they'll take a few thousand on. It really depends on how much you're wanting to wager. What I can say is that I've never had a problem with payouts from any of the books I listed above.

[in play, run(s)]

Ok, thanks. Is it true that dafabet are crippling odds? There was a thread about it on here, and I see you even replied and comfirmed that they did this, but I guess nothing has changed to the better again?

I would absolutely want to go with IBC, the only problem is finding reputable agents you're willing to go through...

Yes, it's true. But they have the highest limits from all IBC alternatives. However, if you want the best odds, and if you want to bet big and win big, there is currently no alternative to IBCBet. As I said, you might check out 1Bet.com too, I remember they had high limits as well in the past, but I don't play there anymore, I have no good feeling about them

[kiwi]

As I said, you might check out 1Bet.com too, I remember they had high limits as well in the past, but I don't play there anymore, I have no good feeling about them

1Bet also had added some juice to the odds of IBC after I had placed a few bets. Additionally if I remember correctly one has to roll over the initial deposit three times before a withdrawal is possible, even without any bonus.

[benandjerry]

Ok, thanks for all the info. I'm strongly leaning dafa atm.

Anyone of you guys going through an agent with IBC who you feel comfortable dealing with?

[Gallin]

Ok, thanks for all the info. I'm strongly leaning dafa atm. Anyone of you guys going through an agent with IBC who you feel comfortable dealing with?

Yes. http://www.asianconnect88.com/

[benandjerry]

Ok thanks, bonusbonusbonus.com might also be a reputable one? Read a couple of comments about them elsewhere.

Just out of curiousity, how are the limits on US sports on IBC (through agent) compared to dafa 12bet and the likes that just uses their odds? Are they crap, or are they on SBO level or better?

[in play, run(s)]

They have pretty high limits on NBA and major european basketball events, but they have very low limits on ice hockey, football and baseball, and all college sports. However, those who complain about their US Sports offer and limits are usually clueless, they're in fact better than every single european book I know of, because they don't limit players and allow infinite rebetting. Limits at Dafabet and IBCBet are roughly, if not exactly, the same, if it hasn't changed in the meantime. I can recommend asianconnect, I am using them for quite some time now, without any problems, don't know if there are any better agents out there, you can check out samvo, they are a very reputable agent / broker, but they charge fees and are not for the average bettor as far as I know.

benandjerry, you USA?

[benandjerry]

Thanks for the info. I'm in EU. No kidding EU books are a disgrace to the industry only allowing losers to wager long term. Does dafa also allow infinite rebetting?

What about singbet, you have any experience with them?

[halleBB]

Ok thanks, bonusbonusbonus.com might also be a reputable one? Read a couple of comments about them elsewhere.

Just out of curiousity, how are the limits on US sports on IBC (through agent) compared to dafa 12bet and the likes that just uses their odds? Are they crap, or are they on SBO level or better?

I signed up via bonusbonusbonus a year ago and haven't got any problems with them fast payouts and customer support, they're one of the biggest gambling portal in Europe with headquarters in Vienna, so is their reputation in game in case they screw you up, anyway they've built an website exclusively for ibcbet customers called bet-ibc (on .com domain) you should check it out

[in play, run(s)]

Is there a specific reason why you sign up and then dig up like 5 old threads from last year, everytime mentioning the bet-ibc agent website?