I just cannot understand how bet365 gets a A- rating

**zonedave** · 11-09-11, 11:54 PM

Has anyone had problems with b365 live betting?

**oiler** · 11-09-11, 11:58 PM

well alot of books now have u getting your payouts the same way you deposited

**allin1** · 11-10-11, 03:12 AM

I have been using bet365 for years. As an European I am not that into us bookmakers especially those that don't allow you to have your account in euros. So for me after Pinnacle, bet365 has been the second favourite. Actually I am surprised how it was even rated at C because for me it is definitely an A bookmaker if you are an european. On live betting they are probably the best.

The only thing is that I don't know if/when I will get limited. I heard stories of people getting limited if they keep winning but I don't know if it's true. I hope it isn't but if it is, then yeah you could say they aren't quite A material.

Being though an England based bookmaker, clients funds are completely safe imo, because of their strict laws and regulations. Therefor, considering that their cust. service is very good as well (I contacted them many many times via live chat, email or even telephone) you can't put them below B.

**caveira** · 11-10-11, 07:17 AM

I have been using bet365 for years too and never had any kind of problem.

**allin1** · 11-10-11, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by oiler

well alot of books now have u getting your payouts the same way you deposited

yes, and it makes sense because some try to avoid paying taxes by depositing from card and withdrawing via e-wallet. from e-wallet they send it to a friend as a gift (which of course he gets back) and so nobody has to pay taxes for that money.

in such cases some bookmakers allow you to withdraw in a bank account in your name, but never to e-wallet. only if you deposit from e-wallet you can withdraw back in the same method.

**poloyol** · 11-12-11, 09:07 AM

U guys don't seem to understand....this has nothing to do with 365!My issue is with SBR,they state that 365 is a A- book....BUT there is no explanation how they became an A- book.I deposited money in 365 due to the fact that SBR gave them an A- rating and that they were one of the elite books.I got screwed and there is nothing i can do about it....In conclusion Books can do what the _uck they want to us.If u read my previous message i clearly state that 365 is a good book for wide range sports wagering and there great Live-in-play.Just be careful if u withdraw a couple a times in a row without depositing.One book also lowered my max bet to $18 on certain sports!!! $18 that was insane!!!!i got the message and left.

**allin1** · 11-12-11, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by poloyol

U guys don't seem to understand....this has nothing to do with 365!My issue is with SBR,they state that 365 is a A- book....BUT there is no explanation how they became an A- book.I deposited money in 365 due to the fact that SBR gave them an A- rating and that they were one of the elite books.I got screwed and there is nothing i can do about it....In conclusion Books can do what the _uck they want to us.If u read my previous message i clearly state that 365 is a good book for wide range sports wagering and there great Live-in-play.Just be careful if u withdraw a couple a times in a row without depositing.One book also lowered my max bet to $18 on certain sports!!! $18 that was insane!!!!i got the message and left.

Are you a sharp player or was it just a lucky streak? Did you play on statistics, probability or were you using strategies using mathematics? Any arbitrage or big bets on in-play markets?

I am asking because I am curios what could be the reason for limiting you. I doubt they limit players when they can only suspect a lucky streak so it must be from other reasons. If they limit you just because they think you are sharp, then indeed, they are not an A- book (imo).

**brankica023** · 11-12-11, 02:24 PM

They limit me because i win 300E in 3 days after opening my account in live betting mostly on volleyball and i was always betting on underdogs with line about 2.4-2.6 and i get message from them and now my max winning per bet is about 16-32E per bet.i cash out and ll not play there any more after this.

**allin1** · 11-12-11, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by brankica023

They limit me because i win 300E in 3 days after opening my account in live betting mostly on volleyball and i was always betting on underdogs with line about 2.4-2.6 and i get message from them and now my max winning per bet is about 16-32E per bet.i cash out and ll not play there any more after this.

after placing your first in-play bet on an event were you making any other bets to break-even or secure a profit for any possible outcome? or were you laying your bets at an exchange?

**allin1** · 11-12-11, 03:26 PM

still, check this out:

Originally posted by Justin7

poloyol,

If you submitted a complaint, a copy of it was emailed to you. Forward that to Justin at Sportsbookreview, and I'll look at it. I handle most Bet365 issues.

Bet365 has worked very well with SBR, and we have no outstanding complaints where Bet365 and SBR disagreed. They are treating players fairly, and your money is safe there. I expect they will become an A book soon.

**virtozo** · 11-13-11, 09:09 AM

best live betting imo.

**theviking** · 11-13-11, 11:44 AM

Its a GREAT book,for sure, if u break their rules, or cheat them,it will be a different story

**brankica023** · 11-13-11, 01:58 PM

Yes i made one ore 2 sure bets after my team start to take lead so maybe that is reason that they limit me fast.

**turlis** · 11-15-11, 10:39 AM

Yeah I also got limited quite fast. It is real shame that they limit people to peanuts because it is one of the best sportsbooks in the world with probable most betting options.

**poloyol** · 11-20-11, 09:46 AM

I made a complaint about a book to SBR not to get my money back...it was to advise players that come to SBR looking for a book to deposit money in.I just wanted to know how they got from a C book to a A- book in 7 mths. (which i still did not get a response) so ur telling me to do another complaint letter to u guys.My opinion...SBR book ratings is a joke,apart from that SBR is in a league of its own.

**Justin7** · 11-20-11, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by poloyol

I made a complaint about a book to SBR not to get my money back...it was to advise players that come to SBR looking for a book to deposit money in.I just wanted to know how they got from a C book to a A- book in 7 mths. (which i still did not get a response) so ur telling me to do another complaint letter to u guys.My opinion...SBR book ratings is a joke,apart from that SBR is in a league of its own.

I agreed with the upgrades (and recommended all of them).

1. Bet365 is huge and profitable. They are not going to go under.
2. They have great communication with SBR. We can resolve most issues within a day or two. They listen and respond to SBR's input.
3. There are no outstanding complaints.

I would expect their rating to continue to go up.

**p19101** · 11-20-11, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by ericool007

Im glad i looked at this thread just now i was thinking of making an account there lol.

Don't let this tool fool you. If you're a recreational better there are few bookies that can beat bet365.

**poloyol** · 11-20-11, 01:20 PM

How can u take a moderator serious with a name like Justin7 and an avatar pic of some type of Alien.Like when someone sends there C.V to me looking for a job and have an email ( sexyshootersuzie@hotmail.com ) So your telling me that they will some be considered in the same bracket as Pin,Greek,5D...don't make me laugh.Every week there is someone complaining about 365 on this forum. Lets go Fins and Vikings!!!

**allin1** · 11-20-11, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by poloyol

How can u take a moderator serious with a name like Justin7 and an avatar pic of some type of Alien.Like when someone sends there C.V to me looking for a job and have an email ( sexyshootersuzie@hotmail.com ) So your telling me that they will some be considered in the same bracket as Pin,Greek,5D...don't make me laugh.Every week there is someone complaining about 365 on this forum. Lets go Fins and Vikings!!!

Appearances on the internet could be deceiving.

If you would see the man behind "justin7" as a lawyer in a suit and tie you would probably have a different opinion. Do you realize that he could just mind his own bets and profits without giving a flying #%@& about any other bettors in the world but instead he dedicates time and energy to help a lot of people that are into sports betting.

**Justin7** · 11-21-11, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by poloyol

How can u take a moderator serious with a name like Justin7 and an avatar pic of some type of Alien.Like when someone sends there C.V to me looking for a job and have an email ( sexyshootersuzie@hotmail.com ) So your telling me that they will some be considered in the same bracket as Pin,Greek,5D...don't make me laugh.Every week there is someone complaining about 365 on this forum. Lets go Fins and Vikings!!!

Poloyol,

If bet365 cheated you, file a complaint. It will probably be assigned to me. If you are not happy with how I handle it, you are free to post your experiences here.

In every instance that I thought a player was owed, Bet365 reached the same conclusion. If you were mugged by them, it is very likely that you'll get paid in full by filing a complaint. If you were committing fraud (i.e. opening up multiple accounts to collect bonuses), I can only get you your deposits back.

If you really want to "expose" me, file a complaint. Watch how I handle it. And say what you will as it resolves.

**gridiron guru** · 11-21-11, 03:37 AM

They dont take US players, in my opinion any book that doesnt accept US players is a F+ sportsbook

**seljak** · 11-21-11, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by gridiron guru

They dont take US players, in my opinion any book that doesnt accept US players is a F+ sportsbook

yes and book who accept US players like Sportsinteraction(SBR rank b+) should have A+++,no matter if they have so many bad line every day
I don't understand how can Ladbrookers become A

**poloyol** · 11-21-11, 06:29 PM

Justin u seem to dodge the main discussion of this thread...i still havent gotten a response on how 365 went from a C book to A- book in 7mths.Here is another question...how is Legends rated A+ when they offer only 6 ML lines out of 30 in NCCAB and NCAAF,no ML on NFL game tonight and open up there lines so late.

**poloyol** · 11-21-11, 06:33 PM

Justin sorry for the comment i made about ur profile....no room for these types of comments..Sorry.

**allin1** · 11-21-11, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by poloyol

Justin u seem to dodge the main discussion of this thread...i still havent gotten a response on how 365 went from a C book to A- book in 7mths.Here is another question...how is Legends rated A+ when they offer only 6 ML lines out of 30 in NCCAB and NCAAF,no ML on NFL game tonight and open up there lines so late.

actually he responded in a previous post:

Originally posted by Justin7

I agreed with the upgrades (and recommended all of them).

1. Bet365 is huge and profitable. They are not going to go under.
2. They have great communication with SBR. We can resolve most issues within a day or two. They listen and respond to SBR's input.
3. There are no outstanding complaints.

I would expect their rating to continue to go up.

**poloyol** · 11-22-11, 06:52 PM

Who the hell r u Allin....Sorry but this means shit!!!!This is just Justin opinion. So they went from C to A- in 7mths because of these 3 points below!!WOW!!!
1. Bet365 is huge and profitable. They are not going to go under.
2. They have great communication with SBR. We can resolve most issues within a day or two. They listen and respond to SBR's input.
3. There are no outstanding complaints.

Please don't respond to this Allin.

**Justin7** · 11-22-11, 07:28 PM

poloyol,

Did you file your complaint yet? Give me a chance to sort out your problem.

**prop** · 11-22-11, 09:34 PM

Bet365 is one the largest betting sites in the world with a ton of markets and plenty soft spots. The only complaint I have about them is they have more clueless live chat agents than any other site and I mean really really bad (test it and see it's very LOL). Other than that not sure what the issues could be - they're accessible via a lot of languages, one of the non English agent forums they tend to have issues come up time to time but they have a rep there fixing them at lightening speed. Just my opinion but if SBR is off on their rating here I can't possibly be by much. As far as financial security, hassle free payouts and the site you'd want to have your money with in say India or China (two largest countries in the world) theirs would be it. Same applies to many other markets as well. I think a case could easily be made their rating is too low as they're the dominate leader in so many markets without any competitors in close sight.