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  • offshoregenius77
    SBR High Roller
    • 05-26-08
    • 154

    #1
    New Betting Exchange
    I heard about these guys from a stock trader friend of mine. They seem to be doing some marketing now. Im looking at giving them a try. Any other players members.



    Any advice helpful.

    OG
    Last edited by offshoregenius77; 11-05-11, 02:05 PM.
  • Hareeba!
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-01-06
    • 36949

    #2
    interesting
    can't figure how it can work with no commissions though
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    • FourLengthsClear
      SBR MVP
      • 12-29-10
      • 3808

      #3
      Originally posted by offshoregenius77
      I heard about these guys from a stock trader friend of mine. They seem to be doing some marketing now. Im looking at giving them a try. Any other players members.



      Any advice helpful.

      OG
      The 10x leverage on balances was something (I actually only wanted 5x) I urged Matchbook to do several times - without success.

      Employing market makers on sort of preferential terms is a smart thing to do also.

      We will see in due course what sort of fees there are but if they get it right, I would think they will be a better option for US players than Matchbook ever was.
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      • fedex11204
        SBR Sharp
        • 08-14-05
        • 366

        #4
        Why hasn't SBR mentioned them...if it's true that they are the next Matchbook for the US then this is the best news since I am not sure when.
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        • FourLengthsClear
          SBR MVP
          • 12-29-10
          • 3808

          #5
          Originally posted by fedex11204
          Why hasn't SBR mentioned them...if it's true that they are the next Matchbook for the US then this is the best news since I am not sure when.
          I think it is still early days.
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          • RED
            SBR High Roller
            • 02-07-09
            • 245

            #6
            Originally posted by Hareeba!
            interesting
            can't figure how it can work with no commissions though
            $9.75 per month starting in 2012 for a trading seat, then 2% on any withdraws you make.
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            • FourLengthsClear
              SBR MVP
              • 12-29-10
              • 3808

              #7
              Originally posted by RED
              $9.75 per month starting in 2012 for a trading seat, then 2% on any withdraws you make.
              They will have no problem attracting traders and market makers with that sort of arrangement. The problem, as was the case with Matchbook will be getting enough Joe Squares to sign-up.
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              • acw
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-29-05
                • 576

                #8
                Any idea where this Michael King is located?
                http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-king/13/61b/63b ?
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                • FourLengthsClear
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-29-10
                  • 3808

                  #9
                  Originally posted by acw
                  Any idea where this Michael King is located?
                  http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-king/13/61b/63b ?
                  NYC.
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                  • Keith Richard
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-06-06
                    • 1576

                    #10
                    Looks like they copied Matchbook.This could be a really exciting development.
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                    • acw
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 08-29-05
                      • 576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                      NYC.
                      How can someone in NYC legally receive and transfer funds?
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                      • RED
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-07-09
                        • 245

                        #12
                        How does the exchange work exactly?

                        Like can I make the odds on a game?

                        Like Team A -105 for $100

                        Team B -105 for $100

                        If both orders get filled then I make 5% correct?

                        Can You make your own line?

                        Like If team A is +7

                        Team B is -7

                        If I wanted to can I make Team A +6.5
                        and Team B -6.5 etc...?

                        And what is Liquidity exactly?
                        In the video the guy made a dime deposit and had 11k in Liquidity, What can you do with that liquidity? Can you make offers or markets with that and if you miss you have to pay that in your account??

                        Sorry never used an exchange before so just curious.
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                        • noyb
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-13-05
                          • 971

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RED
                          How does the exchange work exactly?

                          Like can I make the odds on a game?

                          Like Team A -105 for $100

                          Team B -105 for $100

                          If both orders get filled then I make 5% correct?

                          Can You make your own line?

                          Like If team A is +7

                          Team B is -7

                          If I wanted to can I make Team A +6.5
                          and Team B -6.5 etc...?

                          And what is Liquidity exactly? In the video the guy made a dime deposit and had 11k in Liquidity, What can you do with that liquidity? Can you make offers or markets with that and if you miss you have to pay that in your account??

                          Sorry never used an exchange before so just curious.
                          no apparently you can make offers up to 10x your balance as long as your orders are not matched. if they are matched, your offers are pulled, so you'll never actually risk more than you've got. it has been done before by (now extinct) exchanges.
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                          • noyb
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-13-05
                            • 971

                            #14
                            blatantly ripping off the matchbook-layout plus not enclosing anything about legal issues etc. make this outfit look pretty dodgy imo. maybe they're still in beta though.
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                            • QQPALLADIUM
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-22-10
                              • 367

                              #15
                              Originally posted by noyb
                              blatantly ripping off the matchbook-layout plus not enclosing anything about legal issues etc. make this outfit look pretty dodgy imo. maybe they're still in beta though.

                              agreed...plus +130 and +125 on dow up or down...if i could get those odds on a daily basis...
                              sbr
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                              • Hareeba!
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-01-06
                                • 36949

                                #16
                                Originally posted by RED
                                How does the exchange work exactly?

                                Like can I make the odds on a game?

                                Like Team A -105 for $100

                                Team B -105 for $100

                                If both orders get filled then I make 5% correct?

                                Can You make your own line?

                                Like If team A is +7

                                Team B is -7

                                If I wanted to can I make Team A +6.5
                                and Team B -6.5 etc...?

                                And what is Liquidity exactly?
                                In the video the guy made a dime deposit and had 11k in Liquidity, What can you do with that liquidity? Can you make offers or markets with that and if you miss you have to pay that in your account??

                                Sorry never used an exchange before so just curious.
                                You can make your own odds but not your own lines

                                In other exchanges you can post offers only up to the extent of the funds in your account
                                This one will allow you to post offers for 10x that but presumably once they are accepted up to the extent of your account balance the remainder of your offer(s) lapse.
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                                • neverstoppers23
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 6302

                                  #17
                                  sucks united states people can't use those type of sites
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                                  • RichardGeorge
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 04-18-10
                                    • 640

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by neverstoppers23
                                    sucks united states people can't use those type of sites
                                    This one IS available to US residents... which makes it fishy.
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                                    • Hareeba!
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 07-01-06
                                      • 36949

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RichardGeorge
                                      This one IS available to US residents... which makes it fishy.
                                      makes it risky
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                                      • offshoregenius77
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 05-26-08
                                        • 154

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                        interesting
                                        can't figure how it can work with no commissions though
                                        I think theyre trying to make it on the 2% withdrawal fee. Im going to give it a shot, as I have some funds in the digital currencies they accept. Ill keep you guys advised. Some good market liquidity, but NHL is dead. We'll see.

                                        OG
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                                        • FourLengthsClear
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-29-10
                                          • 3808

                                          #21
                                          The critical thing for me as a trader is the the API is made available to EVERYONE. A situation where the guys they have invited from CBOT have automated systems which pick off offers on line moves whilst the rest of us have to do it manually won't fly.
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                                          • byronbb
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-13-08
                                            • 3067

                                            #22


                                            very intriguing.
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                                            • bookie
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 2112

                                              #23
                                              The marketing verbiage seems heavy-handed and under-explains who they are and what they want to do and the new age currencies smell like *******.
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                                              • bookie
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 2112

                                                #24
                                                Looks like it's going to be at least four percent in and out to the processors, in addition to their two percent out fee.

                                                Correct me if I got that wrong...I half-listened to the videos and that was my impression.
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                                                • RED
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 02-07-09
                                                  • 245

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Hareeba!
                                                  You can make your own odds but not your own lines

                                                  In other exchanges you can post offers only up to the extent of the funds in your account
                                                  This one will allow you to post offers for 10x that but presumably once they are accepted up to the extent of your account balance the remainder of your offer(s) lapse.
                                                  Would be nice if you make your own lines, their would be a lot more value in something like that. People would have some nice grounds to battle with to make their best offers.
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                                                  • msdw1
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 02-12-08
                                                    • 147

                                                    #26
                                                    I will give it a shot if they ever offer book transfers with 5dimes.
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                                                    • Legions36
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-17-10
                                                      • 3032

                                                      #27
                                                      Is this place for real??? Can SBR chime in and explain this place looks almost to good to be true. Also why is there no hockey games up right now that is the main sport up during the week for games at the moment since there is no basketball. No fees would be great and very smart to just lock down the whole market and only have a small monthly fee and only fees on withdrawals. i hope this place is legit would work great.
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                                                      • bookie
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-10-05
                                                        • 2112

                                                        #28
                                                        They have some videos up where the guy tells the story. Supposedly it was a private exchange for three bookmakers and six traders who wanted to bet each other no-vig, and now they decided to open it up.

                                                        The funding options are all funky e-gold type things, with high transaction costs. The videos they have up provide more information.

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                                                        • Keith Richard
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-06-06
                                                          • 1576

                                                          #29
                                                          I won't consider signing up until I know at least what country they are operating out of.
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                                                          • TheGuesser
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 2714

                                                            #30
                                                            We "think" we've hit on somewhat of a loophole??????? Not the most secure sounding endorsement for signing up.
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                                                            • Ruifgalmeida
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-23-08
                                                              • 2024

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TheGuesser
                                                              We "think" we've hit on somewhat of a loophole??????? Not the most secure sounding endorsement for signing up.
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                                                              • Pat McCrotch
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 09-08-11
                                                                • 814

                                                                #32
                                                                there is a 9.75 monthly fee starting 2012
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                                                                • Pat McCrotch
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 09-08-11
                                                                  • 814

                                                                  #33
                                                                  anyone watched the bit coin video?

                                                                  fuking joke, if bit coin tanks 50% u will lose 50% of ur money

                                                                  fukk that

                                                                  probably the new parlaymakers venture!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                                                  • Pat McCrotch
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 09-08-11
                                                                    • 814

                                                                    #34
                                                                    ************* deposits

                                                                    there are 150,000 locaitions over the ukraine and russia
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                                                                    • offshoregenius77
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 05-26-08
                                                                      • 154

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I sent them an email recommending they come on to SBR and answer our Q's. I did fund using LR , so we will see how things go. I NEED a liquid exchange. Betmaker is improving but.........

                                                                      OG
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