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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    Sportsbook.com moves non-US players to Global.Sportsbook.com
    Sportsbook.com moves non-US players to Global.Sportsbook.com

    Sportsbook.com (SBR rating D-) is now redirecting non-US players to Global.Sportsbook.com. Sportsbook.com (ag) fired off an email this morning advising players that their accounts would be moved to the new, Malta-based platform. Global.Sportsbook.com is officially part of WinUnited Ltd., a gaming company licensed by the Lotteries and Gaming Authority (LGA) of Malta. WinUnited Ltd. is most known for powering YouWin sportsbook (SBR rating D-). A Sportsbook.com (ag) manager confirmed to SBR that US-based players are not impacted by the move.

    In its 1,000+ word email to international players, the sportsbook declared that rollovers would be waived on outstanding bonus cash with the condition that players not request payment for sixty days. If a player requests payment prior to then, he would be forfeiting the bonus amount entirely. The sportsbook is essentially holding players funds hostage and forcing them to sit on their balances without losing their earned bonus cash. The email went on to state that pending wagers would not be honored. The unethical decision to void player wagers is one of many the Sportsbook.com Group has made over years, along with debiting $150,000+ in correlated parlay winnings from players five years ago.

    Feedback from Sportsbook.com's non-US players

    A Sportsbook.com (ag) player based in Canada wrote SBR today with concerns over his $2,070 balance. The player attempted to log into his account this morning and found that it was disabled. The player was told that as a non-US resident, he would have to log into the new Global.Sportsbook.com site to register an account, and then be transferred his funds. The player points out that in addition to his balance, he has two pending wagers for a total of $500. The player wagered $300 last December on the Philadelphia Phillies to win the World Series at 6/1, and another on the Texas Rangers to win the ALCS at 4.5/1.

    SBR received an additional complaint from a player that stated that he was told his account would be enabled with his funds available eight hours ago. After the time-frame passed, the player reached out to SBR. SBR is asking this player for more information regarding his balance information. | Sportsbook.com's letter to account-holders
  • skrtelfan
    SBR MVP
    • 10-09-08
    • 1913

    #2
    They pulled that same crap with canceled baseball futures in 2006 post UIGEA where a bunch of people had futures canceled when the baseball playoffs were down to 4 teams. Pretty good way for the book to freeroll people, something tells me that non-Americans who bet the Giants or Angels to win their leagues or the world series won't be getting their money back.
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    • SportsMushroom
      SBR MVP
      • 09-28-10
      • 4177

      #3
      with so much information out there about sportsbook.com, people that still play there deserve to lose their money
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Stay away from both

        high risk books
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        • John Dough
          SBR MVP
          • 09-21-05
          • 1785

          #5
          Originally posted by SportsMushroom
          with so much information out there about sportsbook.com, people that still play there deserve to lose their money
          No one "deserves" to lose their money, short of perhaps criminals.
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          • bigboydan
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-10-05
            • 55420

            #6

            Sportsbook.com reinstates futures wager


            A Sportsbook.com (SBR rating D-) player who was moved over to the operation's new Malta-based website, Global.Sportsbook.com had his futures wager reinstated. The player followed Sportsbook.com (ag) instructions to request his pending wagers be honored. Sportsbook.com initially surprised thousands of non-US based players by sending an email informing them that non-US operations would be moved to the new website Global.Sportsbook.com, which is headquartere in Malta. The players were required to register new accounts to have their balances transferred over. The email stated that all pending wagers, including futures had been voided.

            The new operation carries a sublicense from Win United Ltd., the gaming company which powers YouWin Sportsbook (SBR rating D-). Day to day operations are managed by YouWin executive "John", who also discusses player disputes with Sportsbook Review.

            Sportsbook.com to player: We confirm that your future bet: Texas Rangers(9/2) 2011 American League Pennant - Odds to Win, has been reinstated and the total amount of 200 Euros has been deducted from your balance.
            Sportsbook.com players with feedback or complaints are asked to submit a sportsbook complaint form, or dial 1-830-255-4677 during normal business hours to speak with a Sportsbook Review dispute analyst.
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            • SBR_John
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-12-05
              • 16471

              #7
              Business as usual.
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              • No coincidences
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-18-10
                • 76300

                #8
                What's unfortunate is that I like the way their website is set up. I can see how they lure the casual bettor in; it's a much better look with a lot of different options vs. many of the more reliable books.

                Too bad you'll likely never see your money again.
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                • JohnnyC
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 02-27-09
                  • 504

                  #9
                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                  What's unfortunate is that I like the way their website is set up. I can see how they lure the casual bettor in; it's a much better look with a lot of different options vs. many of the more reliable books.

                  Too bad you'll likely never see your money again.
                  Keep talking out of your ass pal

                  Got 40k from them in cashouts the last 4 days
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                  • ttwarrior1
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 06-23-09
                    • 28456

                    #10
                    u mean the merge site?/ looks exactly the same as always to me
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                    • ttwarrior1
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 06-23-09
                      • 28456

                      #11
                      sportsbook became players only , so not sure what u mean, been that for about 2 years
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                      • No coincidences
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-18-10
                        • 76300

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JohnnyC
                        Keep talking out of your ass pal
                        I'm sure all of the documented complaints at SBR are just isolated incidents, right? Solid book.

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                        • JohnnyC
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 02-27-09
                          • 504

                          #13
                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                          I'm sure all of the documented complaints at SBR are just isolated incidents, right? Solid book.

                          Did I say anything about the complaints u dim wit?

                          I responded to a poster commenting on the likelihood of another poster getting paid from sportsbook.com. I put forth my recent empirical evidence that suggests the opposite of his statement.

                          But keep up your random strawman, I'm sure your 25k posts were time well spent.
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                          • Jimmy0607
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-09-09
                            • 7785

                            #14
                            Hey Jonny take their dick off your mouth
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                            • DrStale
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-07-08
                              • 9692

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JohnnyC

                              Did I say anything about the complaints u dim wit?

                              I responded to a poster commenting on the likelihood of another poster getting paid from sportsbook.com. I put forth my recent empirical evidence that suggests the opposite of his statement.

                              But keep up your random strawman, I'm sure your 25k posts were time well spent.
                              They've clearly ripped off a ton of people and youre defending them because you havent been ripped off (yet). That's like me defending the Bloods or Crips as "nice guys" just because they haven't beaten the shit out of me.
                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                              • JohnnyC
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-27-09
                                • 504

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DrStale
                                They've clearly ripped off a ton of people and youre defending them because you havent been ripped off (yet). That's like me defending the Bloods or Crips as "nice guys" just because they haven't beaten the shit out of me.
                                U dumb fuk mouth breeathers need to take the dicks out your eyes and read.

                                I simply disagreed with the statement "you will likely never see your money" that is whore shit.
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                                • No coincidences
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 01-18-10
                                  • 76300

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                  U dumb fuk mouth breeathers need to take the dicks out your eyes and read.

                                  I simply disagreed with the statement "you will likely never see your money" that is whore shit.
                                  So the complaints from all of these people who have been stiffed by Sportsbook.com are just random and coincidental?

                                  I don't know why I'm arguing with someone who would stick up for such a shit book in the first place. Do you work there or something? FTR, I highly doubt you got $40 grand in cashouts from them in the last four days.
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                                  • DrStale
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 12-07-08
                                    • 9692

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by JohnnyC

                                    U dumb fuk mouth breeathers need to take the dicks out your eyes and read.

                                    I simply disagreed with the statement "you will likely never see your money" that is whore shit.
                                    Uh clearly that is not the case for many people. You cannot be this dense.
                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                    • Bizzen123
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 02-22-10
                                      • 14

                                      #19
                                      I hear that they pay you for smaller efforts but not bigger?
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                                      • DrStale
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 9692

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Bizzen123
                                        I hear that they pay you for smaller efforts but not bigger?
                                        Probably, but why would anyone take the chance when there are plenty of good books out there that will pay you for sure?
                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                        • JohnnyC
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-27-09
                                          • 504

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by No coincidences
                                          So the complaints from all of these people who have been stiffed by Sportsbook.com are just random and coincidental?

                                          I don't know why I'm arguing with someone who would stick up for such a shit book in the first place. Do you work there or something? FTR, I highly doubt you got $40 grand in cashouts from them in the last four days.
                                          Ok Ill repeat this a third time, "you will likely never see your money again" is what you said, I disagree with this greatly.

                                          And regarding my cashouts, would you like to prop bet me on this?
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                            And regarding my cashouts, would you like to prop bet me on this?
                                            What do you mean?
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                                            • DrStale
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-07-08
                                              • 9692

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JohnnyC

                                              Ok Ill repeat this a third time, "you will likely never see your money again" is what you said, I disagree with this greatly.

                                              And regarding my cashouts, would you like to prop bet me on this?
                                              And for the 7th time, just because you got your money doesnt mean other people will. If there is even a chance why the hell would you play there?
                                              Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                              If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                              • SportsMushroom
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-28-10
                                                • 4177

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                                Ok Ill repeat this a third time, "you will likely never see your money again" is what you said, I disagree with this greatly. And regarding my cashouts, would you like to prop bet me on this?
                                                well so there is you, one person only that says he got paid (unverified), there are numerous (verified) complaints on sbr and other sites from players that have been stiffed

                                                so by my understanding of english

                                                1 player getting paid (unverified) vs numerous players getting stiffed (verified) = 'You will likely never see your money again'
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                                                • JohnnyC
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-27-09
                                                  • 504

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                  What do you mean?
                                                  You called me out on a lie, lets pro bet on it
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                                                  • MUHerd37
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-23-09
                                                    • 12816

                                                    #26
                                                    Don't ask us for a payout for 60 days! Bet there with confidence!!! I had an account there a few years ago. Got a payout quick and hassle free. Wouldn't do business with them now tho.
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                                                    • JohnnyC
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 02-27-09
                                                      • 504

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                                                      well so there is you, one person only that says he got paid (unverified), there are numerous (verified) complaints on sbr and other sites from players that have been stiffed

                                                      so by my understanding of english

                                                      1 player getting paid (unverified) vs numerous players getting stiffed (verified) = 'You will likely never see your money again'
                                                      We are talking about now, the present, not the past right?

                                                      Going forward the statement regarding getting stiffed from sb.com was a false one.

                                                      Now where's that guy willing to propbet me on my statement regarding my recent withdrawals?
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                                                      • Snatch
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 06-10-11
                                                        • 66

                                                        #28
                                                        English is not my native language...what is a mouth breather?
                                                        Johnny and the gay guy, RickySteve (the one who has an avatar of himself without a shirt on , on a mostly male forum) both have used this term?? English is not my first language
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                                                        • neverstoppers23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-26-09
                                                          • 6302

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by John Dough
                                                          No one "deserves" to lose their money, short of perhaps criminals.
                                                          Well, people who know nothing of this site, and are naive in general. You look at the sites of betus.com sportsbook.com and then look at a site like 5 dimes.com The general perception is that sportsbook is better because they have better interface. Which obviously is not the case. Helps that books like betus spends a shit load of money on advertising too.
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                                                          • No coincidences
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-18-10
                                                            • 76300

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                                            You called me out on a lie, lets pro bet on it
                                                            Why not just provide documentation?
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                                                            • SportsMushroom
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-28-10
                                                              • 4177

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                                              We are talking about now, the present, not the past right? Going forward the statement regarding getting stiffed from sb.com was a false one. Now where's that guy willing to propbet me on my statement regarding my recent withdrawals?
                                                              the past? this is from a few days ago:

                                                              9/30/2011
                                                              In typical sportsbook.com fashion, the controversial gaming company announced to non-US players via email that their pending wagers would not be honored. The decision sparked outrage amongst players, as did the announcement that cash bonuses would also be forfeited if a withdrawal was requested within 60 days of the new player accounts creation.

                                                              9/28/2011
                                                              During its long email to players, sportsbook.com also claimed that it would round up currency conversion so that accounts in dollars would receive more than what the exchange rate dictates. However, on September 30th a player filed a sportsbook complaint through SBR indicating that he believes to be shorted $1,700 after having the transfer made to his new account. The player held a balance of $10,700 at sportsbook.com. SBR is following up on this player's claim with management, and asks players with similar complaints to contact SBR.

                                                              In its 1,000+ word email to international players, the sportsbook declared that rollovers would be waived on outstanding bonus cash with the condition that players not request payment for sixty days. If a player requests payment prior to then, he would be forfeiting the bonus amount entirely. The sportsbook is essentially holding players funds hostage and forcing them to sit on their balances without losing their earned bonus cash. The email went on to state that pending wagers would not be honored. The unethical decision to void player wagers is one of many the sportsbook.com Group has made over years, along with debiting $150,000+ in correlated parlay winnings from players five years ago.

                                                              9/26/2011 02:37 PM
                                                              A sportsbook.com (SBR rating D-) player reports requesting a $2,500 Moneybookers withdrawal on September 15th. The player tells SBR that his payout has not processed as of yet. sportsbook.com (ag) allegedly informed the player that there were processor problems leading to the payment delay.

                                                              by the way its been nearly 3 weeks and still no report of payment, good luck with that


                                                              9/16/2011 06:49 PM
                                                              sportsbook.com stalls $24,000 payout request
                                                              A sportsbook.com player tells SBR that he requested a $24,000 payout ten weeks ago. The withdrawal was cancelled due to alleged "processing issues" at the time. The player was told that he would be given a priority withdrawal on his subsequent request (which was made on August 17th, 2011). The player tells SBR that his funds have yet to be received, and that an email was sent to him offering a $1,000 bonus if he were to agree to cancel the payout request.

                                                              This is the third report of a sportsbook.com (ag) player being deliberately slow-paid and having a bonus-carrot dangled in front of them to terminate their withdrawal request.

                                                              On September 12th, SBR reported that a sportsbook.com player has been unable to withdraw $250 from his account since July 8th. The payout was cancelled due to alleged processing issues, and despite being promised to be given a high priority following that botched withdrawal, the only action the player was a sportsbook.com email offering him a cash bonus for not taking his funds out.

                                                              On September 14th, another sportsbook.com player report having his payout stalled in exchange for accepting a bonus. The player wrote to SBR that a $4,000 payment was cancelled on July 19th, 2011 due to alleged processor problems. Like the other two reports, the player was told that his next withdrawal request would be assigned a higher priority in light of the hiccup. The player resubmitted a $5,000 withdrawal request on August 19th. sportsbook.com has yet to render payment to the player.

                                                              sportsbook.com management has yet to provide comment to SBR on any of the three complaints.

                                                              good luck with that also
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                                                              • JohnnyC
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 02-27-09
                                                                • 504

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                Why not just provide documentation?
                                                                No incentive for me to do that without a bet
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                                                                • SportsMushroom
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-28-10
                                                                  • 4177

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                                                  No incentive for me to do that without a bet
                                                                  no incentive for us to believe you without evidence

                                                                  we believe sbr though, sportsbook=stiff
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                                                                  • No coincidences
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                                    • 76300

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by JohnnyC
                                                                    No incentive for me to do that without a bet
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                                                                    • SportsMushroom
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-28-10
                                                                      • 4177

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                      he a shill no coin?

                                                                      if sportsbook stopped paying for shills and actually used that money to pay their customers they might be able get some people to sign up with them
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