I wish Heritage didn't have to be this way!

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  • ABEHONEST
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-27-09
    • 9470

    #1
    I wish Heritage didn't have to be this way!
    Here we go again! It's like dealing with a used car salesman. They advertized a while back that you'll get a refund bonus [10%] if you had a losing season last season [football/basketball?].
    I was told [I believe] where they said all you have to do is reload for that matching 10% amount and it goes directly into your account. However, isn't there always a CATCH?
    Here's the CATCH I never heard or read: Only one bonus at a time. We only give you that 10% bonus, or that other 30% reload bonus, NOT BOTH!

    So, if you want that 10% and it's not over 300 you pay the fees to deps. unless you dep at least 300.
    If you want the 30% bonus you must deps. 300 in order for fees to be paid. Soooo, only one bar of candy at a time kids. Simple as mud, right?
  • bookie
    SBR MVP
    • 08-10-05
    • 2112

    #2
    On the one hand I'm sympathetic and think all sports books would be doing themselves a favor by taking the hype out of their promotions. But on the other hand once you've been following this industry for a while and know what's out there if a bonus seems a little generous then you just assume there's unprinted fine print and reconcile yourself to the fact that all books lie-spin about bonuses.
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    • secretstash
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-29-10
      • 14907

      #3
      i dont think this is too crazy since the bonus comes with low rollover or none right? if its 8X or some shit then yea forget it.

      -stash
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      • mighty maron
        SBR MVP
        • 04-20-09
        • 4215

        #4
        Originally posted by bookie
        On the one hand I'm sympathetic and think all sports books would be doing themselves a favor by taking the hype out of their promotions. But on the other hand once you've been following this industry for a while and know what's out there if a bonus seems a little generous then you just assume there's unprinted fine print and reconcile yourself to the fact that all books lie-spin about bonuses.
        Im finding this out that without disclaimers on the page it still means nothing. The Greek had it simple and you knew what you were getting into.
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        • djefferis
          SBR MVP
          • 08-16-08
          • 1197

          #5
          Say you lost 5k last year, they will match 10 percent of that loss 100 percent on your next deposit.

          So you deposit 500, you expect them to give you 650 in bonus funds? (500 match AND 30 percent)

          Call and as any B rated or better for that kind of offer on a reup with a small ro..post back with the results.
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          • yisman
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-01-08
            • 75682

            #6
            It does sound weird. What's the losses bonus then?

            Doesn't sound like anyone would take it, even with a lower rollover. 30% is a lot better than 10%.
            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
            [/quote]

            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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            • secretstash
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-29-10
              • 14907

              #7
              yisman..its 10% of ur net losses last year (they will then match that with a 100% bonus on ur next deposit)

              so for example.

              u lost 10K last year.. they will give u 10% back ($1000) match on ur next bonus at 100%.. so u must deposit 1000$ to get the match..

              its basically them giving u a 100% bonus when heritage norms are 30%. so its a good deal.. but not quite sure why original poster would think anyone in their right mind would do a 130% bonus. lol

              -stash
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              • bigboydan
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-10-05
                • 55420

                #8
                I've heard of even more crazier offers over the years than this one.
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                • ABEHONEST
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-27-09
                  • 9470

                  #9
                  Originally posted by djefferis
                  Say you lost 5k last year, they will match 10 percent of that loss 100 percent on your next deposit. So you deposit 500, you expect them to give you 650 in bonus funds? (500 match AND 30 percent) Call and as any B rated or better for that kind of offer on a reup with a small ro..post back with the results.
                  No, no exactly! But, I trust people more when I know "exactly" is going on with my money that is invested in "any" business!
                  They also had that other controversial ad last year[is it still there?] with that contest. I bitched on that one too, and had a good logical reason to. That ad was deceiving.

                  Why can't these rich books quit sounding and looking like carnival barkers?
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                  • yisman
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-01-08
                    • 75682

                    #10
                    Originally posted by secretstash
                    yisman..its 10% of ur net losses last year (they will then match that with a 100% bonus on ur next deposit)

                    so for example.

                    u lost 10K last year.. they will give u 10% back ($1000) match on ur next bonus at 100%.. so u must deposit 1000$ to get the match..

                    its basically them giving u a 100% bonus when heritage norms are 30%. so its a good deal.. but not quite sure why original poster would think anyone in their right mind would do a 130% bonus. lol

                    -stash
                    Oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, I'd definitely want that one over the reload bonus, assuming I lost enough.

                    Doesn't apply to me as I'm a newbie. Got there when betjam folded.
                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                    [/quote]

                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                    • BrianLaverty
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-02-07
                      • 2183

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ABEHONEST

                      No, no exactly! But, I trust people more when I know "exactly" is going on with my money that is invested in "any" business!
                      They also had that other controversial ad last year[is it still there?] with that contest. I bitched on that one too, and had a good logical reason to. That ad was deceiving.

                      Why can't these rich books quit sounding and looking like carnival barkers?
                      WTF are you talking about?


                      If you lost $3000 last year.... you get a 10% loss bonus on that...

                      So they will give you 100% bonus on a deposit up to the 10% losses

                      In this case.... you would deposit $300, and get the $300 in freeplays. Do you really think they should put $390 in freeplays for a $300 deposit? Are you that dumb?

                      I think the biggest problem here is your lack of reading comprehension.

                      Its not a 10% bonus... a 10% of your losses bonus.. big difference.
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                      • DEP78
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 08-07-10
                        • 526

                        #12
                        The bonus is good if you lost. It's not in addition to the normal 30% reload -- it's choose what you want. The 10% bonus deal is a 6X. rollover. Say you lost 2k. If you deposit 200 you get 200 cash match. They won't pay the ** fees unless it's 300. After you subtract the fees it's still pretty good.

                        Also, they had the "get out of your bet at halftime" deal last night (max bet $300, previous years it was $500). If you don't win on those bets over the course of the season you probably shouldn't be betting. Up until this year you had to call in to cancel. This year you can call in or do it over the internet.

                        Since they took over BJ and the Greek it's not good as it was before (-108 vs -107), but it's still pretty damn good.

                        They got other good stuff with contests also (100% match for March Madness, Triple Crown Horse Racing stuff).

                        Give them a chance.

                        I'm not a shill, but I think they are pretty damn good.
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                        • Snatch
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 06-10-11
                          • 66

                          #13
                          B LAverty is right
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                          • ABEHONEST
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-27-09
                            • 9470

                            #14
                            You boys are missing the point!
                            I was told two weeks ago that I couldn't get my 10% reload unless I re-deposited. They failed to mention those other details. Like having to dep. 300 at least to get that 10%, and fees paid for. I didn't say it was a rotten deal. I don't like deception!

                            So surprise, surprise when I find out it's not that simple. These little "details" should have been mentioned at the same time I was told I have to re-deposit to get that 100% matched refund.
                            Seems some of you morons seek ways to back up these con-artist books. How about backing up your buds when he has a valid point instead of assuming you know more about the situation than he does. I suppose it was okay with these same members when they had [or still do?] that ad about a bonus on their front page last season broadcasting some deceiving offer?

                            Members like some of you do harm to gamblers, giving the books more leverage to pound you with more "fine-line" rules. I had the same problem with a few members with that [I've forgotten now] falsely advertized ad last year. It seems to be gone, now, finally?

                            Stand up and demand the fine-line horse-manure to be printed in bold letters, or be told, in bold "live" language.
                            I don't like surprises with so-called gifts.
                            Kinda like the old Trogan Horse!
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                            • djefferis
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-16-08
                              • 1197

                              #15
                              I understand your complaint, and see your point.

                              ALWAYS call ahead before depositing to clarify terms, no matter what the book.

                              Like everything, the devil is in the details...get it in writing if you must.
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