5dimes Verification/Certification Nightmare...Lesson never use **

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  • mighty maron
    SBR MVP
    • 04-20-09
    • 4215

    #1
    5dimes Verification/Certification Nightmare...Lesson never use **
    I have made two ***** over the course of my time at 5dimes. 50 dollars each. Before the ** deposit I did a 625 book transfer to them. After the ** deposits, I did five or six ** deposits...Lost them all.


    Here is where it gets interesting. I get the lossback put into my account....less than 20 dollars. In the course of two to three days, thru poker and the casino I run it up over 1k. Happy Yes...

    I decide to make my first ever withdrawl from 5dimes using person to person (M-g). I get the verification request for the ** deposits that have cleared a long time ago.

    I send in images of Drivers Lic, ** back and front..., authoriztion form signed saying its mine I approve etc, and vechile registration from the state where I live with the address in it.

    Nope not good enough...I need to send the bank statements...HUH? It is internet only....not happy about disclosing my spending habits to them.

    5 dimes has enough id to verify that its me. They took my person to person and book to book transfers GLADLY enough. The Lossback was from a person to person transfer. This should be a happy time for me...never ran less than 20 dollars to over a K in two days. Six hours of fighting with verification/** department and more documents need to be sent in.

    Word to the wise.....

    1. Dont use ** for deposits at 5dimes....what a pain this is....digital camera...pics are over 250k in size and they say blurry.

    I have spent the morning and afternoon on this...I thought the hardest part of this would be winning money....Getting it looks to be much more difficult


    Happy day not anymore....just want this to end...if the money is stuck on the site then its monopoly money.
    Last edited by bigboydan; 09-15-11, 01:05 PM. Reason: Removed CC info, no infraction levied
  • PokerAndSports
    SBR Rookie
    • 08-03-11
    • 16

    #2
    they are a monster pain in the ass
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    • BuckeyeT
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 03-14-11
      • 591

      #3
      Thats the wonderful world of offshore betting.

      They dont give a shit how they GET your $$$, they dont ask for a peice of any kind of info to deposit...but when you win they want your 1st born child to get the withdrawal.

      Just how it is and we have to deal with it.
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      • Microphone
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-08
        • 2950

        #4
        Originally posted by BuckeyeT
        Thats the wonderful world of offshore betting.

        They dont give a shit how they GET your $$$, they dont ask for a peice of any kind of info to deposit...but when you win they want your 1st born child to get the withdrawal.

        Just how it is and we have to deal with it.

        And why is that????
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        • Fishhead
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 08-11-05
          • 40179

          #5
          Horrible customer service....................took me 5 weeks to get straight with them verification, correct address, check bouncing, etc, etc.


          TERRIBLE, BEWARE
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          • TheMoneyShot
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-14-07
            • 28672

            #6
            They have a rather stricter policy than most books. Like, jumping through hoops at times.
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            • Pete0
              SBR MVP
              • 04-09-10
              • 3849

              #7
              holy shit


              are u serious ??

              why are they an A+ book ??

              now i'm worried
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              • frostno98
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-11-07
                • 9769

                #8
                Never had my balance enough to cash out from them. I'll stick to these regulars for me.

                DSI-Didn't even have to send documents when using a card for deposits that cleared already, to get payouts.

                Betpop/youwager-sent ID and authorization form once, and that was all she wrote.

                Play at either of these books if you want hassle free payouts, and both books pays within 5 days.
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                • Scooter
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-15-07
                  • 1159

                  #9
                  "1. Dont use ** for deposits at 5dimes....".

                  Does "**" start with a "w", an "m", or a "c"?

                  (Hopefully not an "m").
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                  • me-first
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-01-10
                    • 1054

                    #10
                    That would have to be a c scooter..
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                    • mighty maron
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-20-09
                      • 4215

                      #11
                      I understand the need for verification of ones account. Multi-accounting for bonuses and other perks have been abused by the hordes.

                      I can even understand the desire by the company to verify once a withdrawl is requested and not a deposit. I have dealt more with online poker sites but at those sites you wanted people to insta-deposit. People who really want to play will go thru the hoops; the casual player might not if verification was dictated when the deposit was made. As a poker player; the more money deposited by more players was better for everyone.

                      SO coming back to 5dimes. I get hit with the verification process. It was not pretty as in length of time, the live chat conversations, nor the amount of documents one has to send in. Bank statments from the C. C was grating to me. I did not want to supply those; yet I wanted to enjoy some of my first cashout.

                      I was fortunate enough to deal with someone via live chat from the verification department. I expressed my concerns and we hashed thru an odd agreement. The short of it is that I will not be able to use CC to deposit again because I will not supply all said documents. The impulse factor of a small reload I will not be able to do but the majority of my deposits were via person to person so be it.

                      I am requesting the withdrawl again today because after all this was hammered out it was past 1pm and those withdrawl can not be reuqested after 1pm.

                      I will update
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                      • HedgeHog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 09-11-07
                        • 10128

                        #12
                        That was a good compromise. GL, MM..
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                        • SBR Lou
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-02-07
                          • 37863

                          #13
                          MM,

                          When sending blurry or incomplete documents most sportsbooks wouldn't even allow you to continue till it was resolved; so it's good to hear 5Dimes was tolerant here.
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                          • sideloaded
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-21-10
                            • 7561

                            #14
                            Originally posted by SBR Lou
                            MM, When sending blurry or incomplete documents most sportsbooks wouldn't even allow you to continue till it was resolved; so it's good to hear 5Dimes was tolerant here.
                            lol what resolution is good enough?
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                            • mighty maron
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-20-09
                              • 4215

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SBR Lou
                              MM,

                              When sending blurry or incomplete documents most sportsbooks wouldn't even allow you to continue till it was resolved; so it's good to hear 5Dimes was tolerant here.
                              The Jpegs/gifs were over 200k in resolution each shot from a distance of one foot.


                              I resent the documents twice...I think in the end they could read them because they had follow up questions on a change in address.


                              My fault in this is that I did not do verification as soon as I used the CC. I was aware that other sites do this and that the larger sites usually do this.
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                              • Pete0
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-09-10
                                • 3849

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mighty maron
                                The Jpegs/gifs were over 200k in resolution each shot from a distance of one foot. I resent the documents twice...I think in the end they could read them because they had follow up questions on a change in address. My fault in this is that I did not do verification as soon as I used the CC. I was aware that other sites do this and that the larger sites usually do this.
                                I had a similar experience.. I've gotten different answers several times from diff. clerks.

                                Sometimes they would outright like that they didnt receive any documents etc. or to resend it again and again .
                                Even though the week before I've confirmed that they were recieved.

                                Overall i find it to be somewhat shady - i dont think i will ever have a big enough balance there just in case.
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                                • v1y
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-02-11
                                  • 1138

                                  #17
                                  I deposited via cc and they required no information from me to withdraw. I must say I was very surprised.
                                  Last edited by v1y; 09-16-11, 02:54 PM.
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                                  • sideloaded
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-21-10
                                    • 7561

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by mighty maron
                                    The Jpegs/gifs were over 200k in resolution each shot from a distance of one foot.


                                    I resent the documents twice...I think in the end they could read them because they had follow up questions on a change in address.


                                    My fault in this is that I did not do verification as soon as I used the CC. I was aware that other sites do this and that the larger sites usually do this.
                                    only 100 megabyte tiff files at 2000X2000 are good enough for lou.
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                                    • Pew Pew
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-21-10
                                      • 2267

                                      #19
                                      I left 5dimes last week and will never look back. Happy with my new book
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                                      • doublek1229
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 03-31-10
                                        • 93

                                        #20
                                        5Dimes got me on this scam as well. I made 5 $100 deposits with a ** and on the 5th got my account up to $1600 and decided to cash out. They of course then told me I had to fill out all of the forms and send a copy of the ** both sides. I did that and they said it would be processed in the morning. The morning goes by and of course the money does not leave the account. I asked them why it didn't go through and they said I have to sign the **. I did that and tried again, and they told me information was missing from the form they sent. That pissed me off so badly I stupidly bet the money trying to double up and lost.

                                        Another victory for 5dimes... and the last time I will ever ever bet there.
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                                        • tad0matic
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-09-10
                                          • 621

                                          #21
                                          so the morale of the story is use moneygrams instead of plastic? I never used my cards anyway, scared some government prick may datamine me one day and sic the IRS on me.
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                                          • doublek1229
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 03-31-10
                                            • 93

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tad0matic
                                            so the morale of the story is use moneygrams instead of plastic? I never used my cards anyway, scared some government prick may datamine me one day and sic the IRS on me.

                                            Absolutely yes. Don't let them get you sucked into the Plastic system. Much safer the other way.
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                                            • tjm313
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 09-19-11
                                              • 6

                                              #23
                                              Lost $540 over 2 days playing Blackjack at 5 dimes casinio...It seemed every time I would have 20 they dealer would pull a magic card for 21....feel like I got raped....additionally found out that that 21% rebate on casino losses is by request only, and since I did not request this promotion I dont get jack for my losses....hey 5 dimes why have a promotion you advertise on your web site that you have to request?? ...all my football winnings down the drain!! sportbook I rate an A but the casino is a D!![/color]
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                                              • tjm313
                                                SBR Rookie
                                                • 09-19-11
                                                • 6

                                                #24
                                                who is the new book? and how would you know if they are any better unless you asked for a payout?
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                                                • mighty maron
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-20-09
                                                  • 4215

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by tad0matic
                                                  so the morale of the story is use moneygrams instead of plastic? I never used my cards anyway, scared some government prick may datamine me one day and sic the IRS on me.
                                                  Yeah the plastic has hoops to go thru. I love the 5dimes wagering options and hope to bet more with them
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                                                  • Thurgood
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-17-11
                                                    • 767

                                                    #26
                                                    Legends > 5dimes
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                                                    • Fishhead
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-11-05
                                                      • 40179

                                                      #27
                                                      It's a shame how badly this shop has fallen over the past 6 months............

                                                      Still a decent shop, but certainly not great.
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                                                      • Pew Pew
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-21-10
                                                        • 2267

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by tjm313
                                                        who is the new book? and how would you know if they are any better unless you asked for a payout?
                                                        maybe cuz i 2.5x my initial deposit and tested out their payout process and received same day payout???

                                                        fucck tony. i know he doesn't care that i/one customer left but it will add up eventually. what a e-mafia wannabe on livechat
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                                                        • mtcook21
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 05-01-11
                                                          • 304

                                                          #29
                                                          has anyone used neteller to deposit or withdraw?? If so, how did it go?
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                                                          • mtcook21
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 05-01-11
                                                            • 304

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by mtcook21
                                                            has anyone used neteller to deposit or withdraw?? If so, how did it go?
                                                            Nevermind, just realized Neteller isn't available in the U.S.
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                                                            • teaserpleaser
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 08-14-08
                                                              • 26015

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Pew Pew
                                                              I left 5dimes last week and will never look back. Happy with my new book
                                                              Please share the day i find a book better im out... Ps they got me like like 3 times at least with this little stall tactic... They have a number of little tricks they use.
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                                                              • BarkingToad
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-31-08
                                                                • 5913

                                                                #32
                                                                Mighty Maron mentioned his withdrawal request was p2p. Can anyone explain why would a sportsbook need documentation for that type of withdrawal?
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                                                                • mighty maron
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-20-09
                                                                  • 4215

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BarkingToad
                                                                  Mighty Maron mentioned his withdrawal request was p2p. Can anyone explain why would a sportsbook need documentation for that type of withdrawal?
                                                                  A few of my past deposits were via plastic. I went busto a couple of times...the last few deposits were person to person. The winnings were on that deposit (p2p).

                                                                  It is clearly stated on their website that I had to do verification for plastic. In hindsight, I would never use plastic there but I most certainly would play there.

                                                                  I enjoyed the site greatly
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                                                                  • ThaWoj
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                                    • 6760

                                                                    #34
                                                                    idk maybe i just got lucky but i only use plastic to deposit and when i went to cashout ~1500 via e.c.h.e.k. all they needed was a signed form
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                                                                    • chinoloco212
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-24-11
                                                                      • 1095

                                                                      #35
                                                                      so If i do person to person from the beginning I shouldnt have a problem with the withdrawal process, cause I just made my first deposit today lol
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