Bookmaker statement on domain change

[donkdown]

Bookmaker statement reads at the end "Business as usual" this line is used by every site now, comical. Ask Doyle if it is biz as usual?? Ask ppl who had money on beted if it's business as usual!! ANYONE HERE THAT THINKS ** AND ** ARE NOT NEXT R PLAIN STUPID.

[goldengreek]

Still the books cant use US banks and processors. Have to be purely ** and money gram.

Thats great for ppl that bet small... what do you do if you have won big $$$$$ with offshores ?

withdraw 2,000 a week every week for a year ?

[ThisGuy]

God people are stupid. You tell them facts and logic and they put their fingers in their ears and it's right back to

[Legions36]

they have seized bank accounts in other countries if you read the bookmaker thread, the us can seize what they want. gambling is illegal in the us and if theres an overseas company allowing us players to gamble then u can bet the feds will get them, who are u trying to kid, the us can do what they want where they want, u tell me who will challenge the us????

Any accounts siezed if any were from the sting used in question and bookmaker didnt do to much business with the people in question. Beted is the one that used millions and they might have more issues. But now that they changed from the .com im pretty sure as long as they dont do anything stupid they cant even be bothered because its not in the US jursidiction.

[Legions36]

the point is US can do whatever they want if they feel like going after every single sportsbbok that cater to us players

They point is u dont know what the fu-ck your talking about, read before u post this sh-it. They can only do things to people that come the the U.S.

[ColdBeerHere]

[Legions36]

spreading fear? are u that addicted to gambling?

Maybe people dont consider themselves gamblers and know how lucrative this business is u idiot. Do u not know whats out there. Your just a fu-cking pu-ssy to even say that. Its obvious from your statement u dont know sh-it and shouldn't even be starting threads like this.

[stats13]

how the f did betdsi get their domain back and beted didn't? did betdsi ever get theirs taken in the first place?

[ericmangin]

So it's officially over

I don't care what anybody says, the reality is if an A+ book like bookmaker can go down just like that, our money is not safe anywhere.

This is a really sad day. Why the **** does the government care so much!

I have no idea what I am going to do. I never wanted to move to Las Vegas, but I don't know if I have many other options.

Somebody please tell me I'm overreacting. Try.

Is there a phone number for SBR? This is crazy.

I'm gonna wake up every morning now praying my books are there.

No way to live. ****

[alling]

Business as usual with bank accounts seized

set up by phony Homeland Security payment processors?

[Nikfrio]

the reality is if an A+ book like bookmaker can go down just like that,

Go down how exactly?? Because they will just be forced to change the ".com"?? People are overreacting because they don't get it. They are only seizing domains not the actual companies.. HUGE difference

[jarvol]

IF the gov't decided to come after small fries like yourself, you don't think they could find withdrawls from your account that coincide with deposits into a family member's account?

If you are that worried then put it in a safe deposit box or in your freezer under a slab of beef. It still isn't gonna get you out of paying taxes on it IF the government decides to come after millions of small fry gamblers nationwide in their latest war against gambling. Considering how well they have done with the war on drugs, I'd say you're safe.

[alling]

Go down how exactly?? Because they will just be forced to change the ".com"?? People are overreacting because they don't get it. They are only seizing domains not the actual companies.. HUGE difference

Homeland Security also seized bank accounts by setting up by phony payment processors.

Business as usual?

[goldengreek]

if the gov't decided to come after small fries like yourself, you don't think they could find withdrawls from your account that coincide with deposits into a family member's account?

If you are that worried then put it in a safe deposit box or in your freezer under a slab of beef.

they could go after everybody..small and large fries

and im talking 6 figures here son

[LVBOUND]

Yes I would, do not be like a lot of poker pros who had their entire net worth online when Black Friday happened.

[jarvol]

It's too bad America is full of Republicans and Democrats with so few true Libertarians. Just think of an America that didn't bow down to religous blackmail and legalized harmless things like gambling and drugs and prostitution. An America that didn't tell a legal business what day and hours it can and can not be open. An America that didn't attack and invade countries around the globe that didn't attack nor threaten the US. An America that didn't give billions of tax dollars away in yearly aid to Israel and other shithole countries that oppress their citizens. Yet every November the big politcal machines lead the ignorant sheep into the slaughterhouse.....year after year after year.

[goldengreek]

Go down how exactly?? Because they will just be forced to change the ".com"?? People are overreacting because they don't get it. They are only seizing domains not the actual companies.. HUGE difference

Didnt they seize their processers also ? Thats HUGE

[pavyracer]

Told you the Feds are after the money processors which will lead them to where the money originates. Cashing out everything 2 months ago was the best tip I have ever got. Now watch the house of cards crumble.

[wiffle]

You won't be saying that when you try to log in and site says domain seized by DOJ....You are warned....FYI it will be regulated in US very soon without these SCAM books ripping people off and commuting to fraud.

lol, online sports betting will never be legal and regulated by the us gov

[John Dough]

Didnt they seize their processers also ? Thats HUGE

Processors get shut down all the time. Books have had to switch processors numerous times since the UIGEA passed several years ago.

[LVBOUND]

www.bmaker.ag---works. was told that betmaker will be up with alt adresss in 24 hours. still logged in to betmaker from a few hours ago. cannot log in to them now. still able to place bets, they of course are assuring on the phone. every thing will be back to normal. we will see. when matchbook left i should have cashed out. hard to give up something like this. been doing this many years. like watching a friend lose a battle with a terminal illness. hope he makes a recovery. but,i doubt it.

of course they let you make bets (this has nothing to due with your cash the gov.froze from their account).
Of course they are assuring you, what other fuking choice they got. They run an illegal gambling operation and its their livelihood.
Guys once again being able to deposit means nothing (i am sure they have created back up accounts)
Being able to play is nothing since they are on their own servers.

Cashing out is your problem. Either your cash is frozen by the government or they are going to be trying to find a processor to pay you as the goverment watches.

If the goverment does release the funds it will be not be like poker stars. Stars had power and money to make a deal.

[thegreen]

“It is illegal for internet gambling enterprises to do business in Maryland, regardless of where the website operator is located. We cannot allow foreign website operators to flout the law simply because their headquarters are based outside the country.”


In a slight difference from the Black Friday indictments, the involvement of online wagering on sports appears to be at least partly involved. The same press release charged, “The indictments allege that the defendants own and manage illegal gambling businesses involving online sports betting.” The contents of 11 bank accounts spread across five countries was frozen.



BYE BYE to all the SCAM and FRAUD.....US clearing the way for regulated in state wagering!!!!

[cyberinvestor]

Golden Greek, there is no reason to worry about that. On the Federal level it is not ILLEGAL to be a gambler. What you did was not illegal and they will not, can not, seize your funds.

[jarvol]

Golden Greek, there is no reason to worry about that. On the Federal level it is not ILLEGAL to be a gambler. What you did was not illegal and they will not, can not, seize your funds.

49 out of 50 states can though.

[brandon m]

Bmaker.ag is working for me. Mah money is in there and my points. Will I try to cash out now? No. The thing here is that Bookmaker probably has the money to cover alot of withdrawals but if there is a panic and everyone stops playing and tries to withdraw the money, bookmaker will probably fold.

In my opinion is everyone remains calm these guys will figure this out and it will be business as usual. This is big business and I think everyone should remain calm. Just my opinion.

[thegreen]

lol, online sports betting will never be legal and regulated by the us gov

Some states already have Parlay Cards at Lottery locations like Delaware. You are correct though not US Gov but individual States I meant. It's in committee in quite a few states right now and will happen soon -1000 by this time next year!!!

[thetrinity]

if it was regulated by the us gov, it would b unbeatable. 125 130 juice

[ThisGuy]

it's not like you are earning the money. you are clicking boxes, bud. i dislike more, the fact that the gov't dips into my paycheck, before i ever see anything. now that's b/s.

What a stupid comment. So the opposite is 'it's not like you're losing money, you are clicking boxes'

[Jive]

I'm worried about people concerned about the "authority" of the USA to take any action they want. Maybe you haven't noticed, but we are on our third straight President that could care less about the rule of law. Obama is the worst of them all, openly defying court rulings that say what he is doing is unconstitutional (gulf moratorium, HCA, etc) because it would get in the way of his agenda.

Clinton--"I know the law, but I'm going to find away to get around it"
Bush--"I don't even know the law"
Obama--"I don't care what the law is. I'm my own law"

Rule of law is meaningless in the upper levels of government, and since the USA is still funneling out trillions of dollars to countries all around the world and paying for all these global organizations (like the UN/G-20), countries are going to let them do as they please.

[no1here]

I disagree as the gov will do whatever they want to. It is illegal to send funds to your bank and these funds are subject to seizure. Posters that are not concern are idiots. This is happening very fast and I am losing plenty after working very hard for 7 years reaching full protential.

Golden Greek, there is no reason to worry about that. On the Federal level it is not ILLEGAL to be a gambler. What you did was not illegal and they will not, can not, seize your funds.

[thegreen]

Golden Greek, there is no reason to worry about that. On the Federal level it is not ILLEGAL to be a gambler. What you did was not illegal and they will not, can not, seize your funds.

LOL.....It is illegal and any funds used in illegal activity can and will be seized.....Placing wagers via phone, net, person is all illegal in most states. Funds in these offshore unregulated fraudulent books are very very much at risk. There is very many reasons to worry!!!! See below LOL
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U.S. Attorney Rod Rosenstein commented in a press release on Monday, “It is illegal for internet gambling enterprises to do business in Maryland, regardless of where the website operator is located. We cannot allow foreign website operators to flout the law simply because their headquarters are based outside the country.”


In a slight difference from the Black Friday indictments, the involvement of online wagering on sports appears to be at least partly involved. The same press release charged, “The indictments allege that the defendants own and manage illegal gambling businesses involving online sports betting.” The contents of 11 bank accounts spread across five countries was frozen.

[thetrinity]

what do you think the main goal of the feds is here?

honestly, i have no clue. for poker it was clear to me IMO. they want to regulate the industry and offer you poker via harrahs.com foxwoods.com etc.

sports betting is a completely different animal. it can easily be done underground via joe local or bobby mafioso. i imagine governement regulated online sports betting would be a joke like canada and delaware and no serious player would go this avenue.

next 48 hours or so will be interesting.

[jjgold]

I do not know of one major book that has folded in the last 7 years or so

The comments in this thread are hilarious, we have guys that think they know gaming law and never went to college

[stats13]

theres all kinds of things in play

1 being the justice department just likes to play nanny state and come down on "illegal activities"... they gotta justify the tax $ they get somehow

[thetrinity]

a paltry cash grab at best if thats what this is.

peanuts compared to full tilt and pokerstars.