Bookmaker for one. How can a book be A plus when they offer 20 cent baseball lines? also, in the criteria for rating a sportsbook (there are 5), none have to do with juice/vigorish, and this is puzzling. That is probably the second most important criteria after trust in getting paid.
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Yes, and security is what the ratings are based on, hence the A+
Use your own criteria in determining whats important to you..and then decide, plenty of choices out there...many who have security, lower juice and good c/s as well as a bonus if you chooseComment -
thanks for repsonse. actually djefferis, I had not realized that the rating criteria was largely on security.
However, I still don't see why there is not a rating system that incorporates BOTH security and vigorish. vigorish is huge. the difference between a dime line and twenty cent line is the difference between winning and losing for some of us.
yes, I know that we can decide on our own, but I would still like to see a rating system for both criteria.Comment -
agreed, there should be a rating for cs, bonus, vig and payout cost too..BUT
how do you weight each, take EZStreet, good cs, great bonus, free payouts, vig is ok, but short history and a casino dispute gets them a c-
Heritage has -108 pricing, as solid as they come, decent fees, best c/s in the industry and they are a B (based on lack of openess in their business model)
For most I would say its around 50% weight security/cost of payouts, 20% vig, 10% c/s, selection, and bonus
Betjm/Heritage are up there, but lack selection. 5D has everything but c/s, Greek is likely your only a+ using those criteria..Comment -
There are 5 critical aspects in my rating.
To be considered A+ a book/exchange needs to demonstrate:
1. Security of funds
2. Prompt (and preferably free and unlimited) payouts
3. Genuinely low juice
4. High limits
5. Wide range of sports and betting options
and on those criteria the only ones deserving A+ imo are Pinnacle and Betfair
some specialty shops will fail the 5th test but pass on the others, e.g. SBO and 188 Bet and deserve to be rated A
Matchbook fails the 5th as well as the 2nd partially in that they restrict payouts to just $2500 each via Moneybookers and thus I'd rate them A-Comment -
6. Early linesOriginally posted by Hareeba!Comment -
Bookmaker/CRIS are A+. For me the criteria should also be based partly on longevity.Comment -
yeah, fair enough but not critical for meOriginally posted by jgilmartin
early lines are generally subject to low limits so of limited valueComment -
It's a very important factor. That's why Bookmaker shouldn't be an A+ book in my opinion. It may be an A+ book for US sports but bet variety for soccer, basketball (other countries) are very poor.Originally posted by Hareeba!Comment -
I think for a US-facing book, Bookmaker's variety is pretty good for international sports (between soccer, hockey, basketball, handball, futsal). The odds on the other handOriginally posted by Sawyer
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Originally posted by Hareeba!
Pinnacle is the only book that matches this IMO...Betfair is awesome but their 5% commission is brutal...I try to use Matchbook over them whenever possible (usually only for NBA/MLB/NHL/NFL)Comment -
Betfair's commission isn't as bad as many make out.Originally posted by the_situation
Pinnacle is the only book that matches this IMO...Betfair is awesome but their 5% commission is brutal...I try to use Matchbook over them whenever possible (usually only for NBA/MLB/NHL/NFL)
Firstly you pay it only when you win, not when you lose.
Secondly, even after factoring it into the odds they will generally beat all books but Pinnacle and often them too. I know this because I use both extensively and take the best net odds I can get of course and for other than US sports place more bets with Betfair than with Pinnacle. Yes Matchbook will generally beat them (but only good for US sports) especially if you post offers rather than accept them.
Thirdly, if you are a regular player you shouldn't be paying anything like 5% commission. I pay a lot less than that.Comment -
Originally posted by Hareeba!
I am a heavy straight/flat unit bettor (spreads) and usually bet to win $xxx per game...when I play on Betfair, I factor in the commission($x) on a ($xxx) bet so I bet to win 5% more. So yea, you can see how the commission effects me.
Add the fact that I shop for the best line(so my action is spread out with a number of books), don't make too many plays (0-5 combined per day on average) and just started using Betfair, you can see why I'm still sitting at 5% commission.
If you have a very discounted rate, I can see why it would be your main book.
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indeed and I do have an advantage in that Betfair is clearly the best shop for racing and I do a lot of business with them on that and that certainly helps to keep my commission rate down for sportsOriginally posted by the_situation
If you have a very discounted rate, I can see why it would be your main book.Comment -
very good pointOriginally posted by jgilmartin
Im with sportinteraction since 10 days. i love their site but the only problem is the ltime the line are opening.
the NHL / NBA line of the days open at 7 AM.... sickP.S. Im not good in english. I apologize for any error in my post.Comment -
if you factored in lines and high limits youd have had a pretty nice rating on parlaymakers and look what happened there. best to leave those out and focus on them being legit only and let the player decide from there. there's few enough shops worthy of an A as it isComment -
We have A+ only 3-4 bookies !Comment
