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  • midnight777
    Restricted User
    • 09-10-09
    • 504

    #36
    from reading this saga.... 1 Cory is a known scammer.. and easystreet has a shady past so this is what happens... a bunch of junk... as they say what goes around comes around.. so did he really think easystreet was going to pay him all that money.. All I can say is REally, Really, Really... what a bunch of drama
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    • Fishhead
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-11-05
      • 40179

      #37
      Originally posted by stevenash
      Has a final/judgement even been made yet?

      SBR has ruled in favor of the player to be paid fully.........

      A decision and verdict from TheRX is still pending and should arrive sometime this coming week.
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      • pokerplayer22
        SBR MVP
        • 05-09-09
        • 1207

        #38
        Originally posted by Fishhead
        SBR has ruled in favor of the player to be paid fully.........

        A decision and verdict from TheRX is still pending and should arrive sometime this coming week.
        FH...Im just curious.. Im not one for speculating but when you look at all the facts, and the fact that DGS themselves has said that there was NO evidence of cheating or bot usage, and with all the lies that EZ has already got caught in, will you lose any respect for Wil if he somehow still rules in favor of EZ, just because of the advertising dollars.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65470

          #39
          Originally posted by Fishhead
          SBR has ruled in favor of the player to be paid fully.........

          A decision and verdict from TheRX is still pending and should arrive sometime this coming week.
          Of course SBR will rule in favor of Corey for obvious reasons, just wondering if everything was final.
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          • thechaoz
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-23-09
            • 12154

            #40
            Wow ok never heard of EZ street but I will never play there. Do they happen to belong to a "group" of books that I should avoid all together?
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            • bettilimbroke999
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-04-08
              • 13254

              #41
              Passing unreliable lie detector tests in order to get paid, using bots to play video poker for 10s of thousands at sites I didnt even know existed

              God I love this forum!
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              • dark star
                SBR MVP
                • 01-04-09
                • 3900

                #42
                Originally posted by thechaoz
                Wow ok never heard of EZ street but I will never play there. Do they happen to belong to a "group" of books that I should avoid all together?
                No they are independant...and I use that term loosley
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #43
                  Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                  FH...Im just curious.. Im not one for speculating but when you look at all the facts, and the fact that DGS themselves has said that there was NO evidence of cheating or bot usage, and with all the lies that EZ has already got caught in, will you lose any respect for Wil if he somehow still rules in favor of EZ, just because of the advertising dollars.

                  I cannot answer this at this time for the simple fact that Wil/Rx have not come to a final conlusion yet, or if they have, have not presented it yet and their reasonings.
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                  • HedgeHog
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-11-07
                    • 10128

                    #44
                    Prediction: Wil and EZ to announce decision this week. Better buy some vaseline, Cory.
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                    • Justin7
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-31-06
                      • 8577

                      #45
                      Originally posted by stevenash
                      Of course SBR will rule in favor of Corey for obvious reasons, just wondering if everything was final.
                      What are those obvious reasons? Or are you just referring to the facts of the case?
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                      • wtt0315
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-18-07
                        • 8037

                        #46
                        i hit 3 royals in 1500 hands at betjam last feb. one for 4k 1 for 8 k and 1 for 20k. they never said one word to me and actually congraulated me. it is not impossible.
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                        • bettilimbroke999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-04-08
                          • 13254

                          #47
                          Originally posted by wtt0315
                          i hit 3 royals in 1500 hands at betjam last feb. one for 4k 1 for 8 k and 1 for 20k. they never said one word to me and actually congraulated me. it is not impossible.
                          Yea but did you pass the lie detector test
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                          • bettilimbroke999
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-04-08
                            • 13254

                            #48
                            BTW anyone who thinks most online casinos arent completely rigged just read some of these threads, I mean this shit is fuckin disgusting, if their programs were truly random there would be no way a bot or anything else could beat them, yet countless threads of oh he found a pattern and this that and the other, I mean **** if theres a pattern its bc your shit aint truly random, if its not random you need to refund all deposits and reprogram your rigged games. Im sure they got the usual BS on their site about how theyve been independently audited by a 3rd party software tester to be totally random and blah blah blah

                            Ya got beat at your own game EZ street, now pay the man
                            Last edited by bettilimbroke999; 04-03-11, 08:47 PM.
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                            • pokerplayer22
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-09-09
                              • 1207

                              #49
                              Originally posted by wtt0315
                              i hit 3 royals in 1500 hands at betjam last feb. one for 4k 1 for 8 k and 1 for 20k. they never said one word to me and actually congraulated me. it is not impossible.
                              Scotty (betjam) will send you a check, shake your hand, and say job well done.

                              Powers (EZ) will whine and cry that you must have cheated in order to win in the casino and steal your money

                              Hmmm...wonder where my next deposit is going to go
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                              • Eleven
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 02-07-09
                                • 730

                                #50
                                This must be exhausting for all the parties involved.
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                                • cc440unn
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 03-18-11
                                  • 737

                                  #51
                                  IMO. why are you starting an other thread about this story. this is wasp of time for everybody here.

                                  1 Easystreet is bullshit. They have to pay you becozz they cant prove you uised a both. If they dont. They're bullshit x2

                                  2. youre obvsiously cheating. but nobody can prove it so.....welldone
                                  P.S. Im not good in english. I apologize for any error in my post.
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                                  • tommygun
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-01-10
                                    • 2239

                                    #52
                                    this whole thing is pure bs, "wilhiem" is the mediator yet EZ are a site sponsor, he is not an independent 3rd party, his ruling should not count. He has a conflict of interest. In a real court he would not be appointed on the jury, judge, or executioner.
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                                    • yokspot
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 11-16-05
                                      • 287

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by tommygun
                                      this whole thing is pure bs, "wilhiem" is the mediator yet EZ are a site sponsor, he is not an independent 3rd party, his ruling should not count. He has a conflict of interest. In a real court he would not be appointed on the jury, judge, or executioner.
                                      But it ain't a court.

                                      1) He has sponsors, so he's conflicted.

                                      2) He has no sponsors, so he's not conflicted. But he also has no clout, and more to the point, no money...because he's got no sponsors. So he can't mediate, either.

                                      See the problem?


                                      Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                      BTW anyone who thinks most online casinos arent completely rigged just read some of these threads, I mean this shit is fuckin disgusting, if their programs were truly random there would be no way a bot or anything else could beat them, yet countless threads of oh he found a pattern and this that and the other, I mean **** if theres a pattern its bc your shit aint truly random, if its not random you need to refund all deposits and reprogram your rigged games.
                                      It's not the bots that beat them, it's the bots + the bonuses. That's why casinos don't like bots, as they're synonymous with advantage players and (worse) multi-accounters.

                                      The reason people talk about rigged, patterns blah blah is largely ignorance of gambling. Losses are almost invariably within the parameters of normal variance, and patterns only exist after the fact.
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                                      • bettilimbroke999
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-04-08
                                        • 13254

                                        #54
                                        Yea I thought the OP could be doing a bit of the old bonus whoring and just got lucky (in which case he should be paid) but hes also banned for chargebacks so I thought he might be running a ********** scam instead of course when I heard about the bot possiblity I thought he might be exploiting some rigged casino software

                                        Only thing I know for sure is cory aint getting paid, he might be a scammer or he might be legit, I dont know the facts of the case but I know cory aint gonna get 46k out of that shit book either way, hell 46k would probably put them out of business, it sounds like he needed to meet some huge bonus rollover and couldnt quit until he did, along the way he knocked off multiple royals
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                                        • tommygun
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-01-10
                                          • 2239

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by yokspot
                                          But it ain't a court. 1) He has sponsors, so he's conflicted. 2) He has no sponsors, so he's not conflicted. But he also has no clout, and more to the point, no money...because he's got no sponsors. So he can't mediate, either. See the problem? It's not the bots that beat them, it's the bots + the bonuses. That's why casinos don't like bots, as they're synonymous with advantage players and (worse) multi-accounters. The reason people talk about rigged, patterns blah blah is largely ignorance of gambling. Losses are almost invariably within the parameters of normal variance, and patterns only exist after the fact.
                                          This is easily fixed, get a third party to mediate as it should be, someone WITHOUT a conflict of interest who isn't getting $$$ from the sportsbook they are supposed to be unbiased towards. It's like taking a bribe for this Wilheim character. In my opinon, SBR would be a perfect 3rd party if all the facts and figures were delivered from each party, with evidence of screen shots, proof, etc.
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                                          • MadTiger
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-19-09
                                            • 2724

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by pokerplayer22
                                            will you lose any respect for Wil if he somehow still rules in favor of EZ, just because of the advertising dollars.
                                            Zero divided by anything is still -- zero.

                                            (Ban me over there if you want to! Facts speak for themselves.)
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                                            • scarface
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 02-09-10
                                              • 177

                                              #57
                                              this was handled poorly by all parties....ez probably would have paid you after their investigation( which was obviously needed since cory was a known scammer) because they need to keep their rating and reputation where they were before all this started but after cory started bashing ez and ruing their reputation and any sort of credibility they had before, they decided that they did not want to get ****** with so they will probably not pay his dumbass..its funny how no one remembers all the great press ez had before this, how they were paying like clock work and great customer service...46k is not a lot of money to them and it is not about the money its about their reputation...

                                              and anytime a big winner wins and turns out that he is known scammer an investigation takes place, and cory knew what he was and knew he cheated, so he turned to the forums in fear that he would not be paid, and at the same time destroyed his chances to get paid by destroying a company's reputation...

                                              dgs will never admit their system is flawed, because every book will want money back from them in cases where they were was potential fraud, and we all know any system can be taken advantage of, any system....

                                              we see it everyday, so wise guy,scammer, a cory comes to the forum after they fraud ed a company and says that they are a friend of a grandma who does not know how to use the internet and needs help getting paid....

                                              if cory gets his money, ez should be upgraded because they let scammer beat them by cheating and they still pay them. i would tell cory to **** himself and so would everyone of you....but at the end, we are all assuming and making judgements...the investigation is not over and we dont know what ez will do but yet sbr has down graded them and we all hate them...so far every player has been paid
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                                              • KGambler
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-09-09
                                                • 2404

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by scarface
                                                this was handled poorly by all parties....ez probably would have paid you after their investigation( which was obviously needed since cory was a known scammer) because they need to keep their rating and reputation where they were before all this started but after cory started bashing ez and ruing their reputation and any sort of credibility they had before, they decided that they did not want to get ****** with so they will probably not pay his dumbass..its funny how no one remembers all the great press ez had before this, how they were paying like clock work and great customer service...46k is not a lot of money to them and it is not about the money its about their reputation...

                                                and anytime a big winner wins and turns out that he is known scammer an investigation takes place, and cory knew what he was and knew he cheated, so he turned to the forums in fear that he would not be paid, and at the same time destroyed his chances to get paid by destroying a company's reputation...

                                                dgs will never admit their system is flawed, because every book will want money back from them in cases where they were was potential fraud, and we all know any system can be taken advantage of, any system....

                                                we see it everyday, so wise guy,scammer, a cory comes to the forum after they fraud ed a company and says that they are a friend of a grandma who does not know how to use the internet and needs help getting paid....

                                                if cory gets his money, ez should be upgraded because they let scammer beat them by cheating and they still pay them. i would tell cory to **** himself and so would everyone of you....but at the end, we are all assuming and making judgements...the investigation is not over and we dont know what ez will do but yet sbr has down graded them and we all hate them...so far every player has been paid
                                                This is a terrible read on the situation.

                                                Even before anything was posted in forumville, ezstreet was telling Cory that he needed to pass the polygraph test in CR if he wanted to get paid. EZMarvin was also telling multiple lies about the case, right here on SBR, from the very beginning of the story hitting the forum.

                                                Also, there is absolutely no reason to suspect cheating occurred. There is nothing overly strange about hitting 3 RFs in 22,000 hands. The chances of doing so are less than 1 in 13, so the fact he hit 3 RFs is not an indication of cheating. They have provided no evidence that cheating occurred.

                                                You seem very confused about what is actually happening here.
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                                                • rsigley
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-23-08
                                                  • 304

                                                  #59
                                                  i'm in the market for a new PC what kind will i need to overpower RNGs??
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                                                  • KGambler
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-09-09
                                                    • 2404

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by rsigley
                                                    i'm in the market for a new PC what kind will i need to overpower RNGs??
                                                    Well it's got to be fast enough to play 17 hands of JoB per minute. Just to be on the safe side, I would go with a 386 or better. If you can't afford that, a TRS-80 or VIC-20 would theoretically be plenty fast, but I prefer to go for overkill when investing in an RNG cruncher. That's why I run my bots on a Commodore 64.
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                                                    • tomcowley
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-01-07
                                                      • 1129

                                                      #61
                                                      My TRS-80 still works. I guarantee it couldn't compute JoB play at 17 hands a minute.
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