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  • Dark Horse
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-14-05
    • 13764

    #106
    Why not give both parties an opportunity to save face? Instead of offering the player his money after completing an additional test (play perfect strategy for many hours at a CR location), why not offer him 10K to come to CR and show he can do so? If it is clear that he can't do so, he still has 10K, and EZS saves face. If he can pass this test, then he wins another 10K on top of his 46K plus a nice little weekend trip. If EZS is so certain he cheated, they should have no problem with this. And if the player didn't cheat, he shouldn't have either.

    On a sidenote, if the player does know how to cheat casinos, this won't be the last case.
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65588

      #107
      Originally posted by McFly86
      What speculative crap.

      In your opinion, what is an "acceptable" period to wait after hitting a royal?

      In your opinion, what is an "acceptable" numbers of hands per minute?

      Also, how do you feel that the book has been prejudiced? At the worst, it appears that the player was playing fast.
      I'm not the author of this post.
      I cut and pasted here for comment.
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65588

        #108
        Originally posted by Dark Horse
        I do think the player is cheating, but so is the book. That doesn't mean they have to accept a lose-lose scenario. Why not give both an opportunity to save face? Instead of offering the player his money after completing an additional test (play perfect strategy for many hours at a CR location), why not offer him 10K to come to CR and show he can do so? If it is clear that he can't do so, he still has 10K, and EZS saves face. If he can pass this test, then he wins another 10K plus a nice little weekend trip. If EZS is so certain he cheated, they should have no problem with this. And if the player didn't cheat, he shouldn't have either.
        How about 50 percent of the so called winnings as a settlement, take it or leave it type offer.
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        • Dark Horse
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-14-05
          • 13764

          #109
          Originally posted by stevenash
          How about 50 percent of the so called winnings as a settlement, take it or leave it type offer.
          Why would EZS go for that? It won't restore their reputation. If they can demonstrate that the player cheated, at a cost of less than 25% of the winnings, that's much more attractive. And if the player can demonstrate he didn't cheat, why would he take 23K if he can have 46K +10K? It's the same test the book suggested, but with an inclusion to compensate the player fairly for his trouble to come over. If the player refuses, that's pretty close to an admission of guilt, imo. The player is at an advantage because he already knows if he can do this or not. The book is only speculating. But by making this offer to the player, the book could no longer be blamed for not being fair. If the book doesn't want to extend such an offer, they're not so sure at all... (admission of guilt on their behalf).

          (I'll take my 5K commission from the winning party).
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          • heyman
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-16-09
            • 178

            #110
            HedgeHog is correct. The burden of proof is on EZ and they have not met it.


            Originally posted by secretstash
            imo these guys are mainly defending the book because they dont want the obvious to be true. They probably each have 4 figure+ balances there and are hoping this book doesnt crash because then they will lose their money too... this is my best guess as I have caught myself defending a book that had some obvious negatives when I had a balance there myself.
            Or waited until the facts came out before deciding if EasyStreet had enough evidence to show malfeasance. Most people decided to bury the book without knowing the details. It seems the forum is used to instinctively react against the sportsbook instead of seeing whose side, the player or the book, has merit.


            Originally posted by pjesnik24
            how is this going to reflect on the recent betfair casino bonus scam? should not they be downgraded much more for scamming many more people for much more money and not even claiming somebody broke their T&R?
            Edit: nevermind


            Originally posted by pokerplayer22
            Im not perfect but I have never stolen a penny from anyone in my life....let alone 46k. Powers belongs behind bars. Damn crook!!!
            pokerplayer22 unmasked

            You are flooding these threads.
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            • Santo
              SBR MVP
              • 09-08-05
              • 2957

              #111
              I don't think a settlement would help EZ save face, they almost either have to stick to their argument or pay.
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              • increasedodds
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-20-06
                • 819

                #112
                This decision by EZ Will put them out of business. I'd guess 80+% of their biz comes from these forums. It's not like they are up high on google if you type in sportsbook. I'd also venture to guess most people on these forums will run for the hills.
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #113
                  Originally posted by increasedodds
                  This decision by EZ Will put them out of business. I'd guess 80+% of their biz comes from these forums. It's not like they are up high on google if you type in sportsbook. I'd also venture to guess most people on these forums will run for the hills.

                  Two people confirmed to me this evening they will be depositing there next week...........for whatever reason.

                  Just sayin
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                  • Scooter
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-15-07
                    • 1159

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Fishhead
                    Two people confirmed to me this evening they will be depositing there next week...........for whatever reason.

                    Just sayin
                    Apparently a thread is not a thread without this fool trolling and shilling on the "recreational" forums.

                    He's been kicked out of the Think Tank, laughed out of several forums at a few other websites when he tried to pass himself off as a Video Poker expert, and most recently (that I am aware of) laughed out of a twoplustwo thread where he was - what else - shilling, in that case for scam outfit LVA Sports.

                    But here he is again, immediately coming up with 2 invisible "friends" who are eager to deposit in a thieving sportsbook, and couldn't wait to make Fishhead aware of the fact that they are fellow morons.

                    Probably a lot more time on his hands - no more $1.95 scalps using Matchbook.
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                    • mvp123
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-24-06
                      • 1736

                      #115
                      and i know 10 ppl that were gonna deposit there but now said f no
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                      • slash
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-10-05
                        • 1000

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Fishhead
                        Two people confirmed to me this evening they will be depositing there next week...........for whatever reason.

                        Just sayin
                        Com'on now. No reason to make a fool out of yourself.
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                        • GamblingStacy
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 12-25-09
                          • 449

                          #117
                          This is so sad and I think Corey needs to be paid his 46K!
                          Gambling Family Contest Coordinator.
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                          • SBR_John
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-12-05
                            • 16471

                            #118
                            Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.

                            EZ can run and lay down but the search engines are in the process of recording this event for all time.
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                            • socalaaron
                              Restricted User
                              • 07-22-09
                              • 200

                              #119
                              I too was looking at EZ as an out for baseball season... Guess I will stick with 5dimes, betjm, and betonline.. Oh well..
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                              • cc440unn
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-18-11
                                • 737

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                Why not give both parties an opportunity to save face? Instead of offering the player his money after completing an additional test (play perfect strategy for many hours at a CR location), why not offer him 10K to come to CR and show he can do so? If it is clear that he can't do so, he still has 10K, and EZS saves face. If he can pass this test, then he wins another 10K on top of his 46K plus a nice little weekend trip. If EZS is so certain he cheated, they should have no problem with this. And if the player didn't cheat, he shouldn't have either.

                                On a sidenote, if the player does know how to cheat casinos, this won't be the last case.

                                bah in your idea. If EZ proof the player cant play like he played during his 46k winning streak. They still loose 10k.

                                P.S im not defending EZ in this story. they re just scammer...
                                P.S. Im not good in english. I apologize for any error in my post.
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                                • Dark Horse
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-14-05
                                  • 13764

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by cc440unn
                                  bah in your idea. If EZ proof the player cant play like he played during his 46k winning streak. They still loose 10k.
                                  Small prize to pay to have their reputation undamaged.
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                                  • frognose20
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 04-09-10
                                    • 249

                                    #122
                                    I almost sent them some money the day after this started im glad I checked the forums and waited to deposit
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