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It could be because, he probably played another hand then to realize saw his credit and it was jumped and he was like WOAH, and started his own fist pump and blah blah.
Personally, the way I look at it is this for people who question "bot" and AI
What is a bot or AI to the book and to the player and to us. What does a "bot" exactly do"
Is somethign that just randomly plays a hand considered a bot or a more precise and programmed macro.
I think the fault here is that the casino failed to emphasize WHAT THEY SEE AS A AI. Everyone has their different POV on what an AI is.
I think street here just failed on that and the player took advantage of it.
Where I see it, I think EZ street should pay him like 33% or around 16k to Cory and then move on.
Owning your own business comes with risk, here Street messed up and Cory took advantage of it.
Shady or not there's too much gray area in defining what AI is.
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well that file closes the case.
it was already half way closed but that just closed it
nothing but a broke book.
any poster still backing this book really needs to have their heads examined.Comment -
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I disagree with that 100 percent, the guy used a bot, its obvious. According to EZ he has also scammed other books.
Why not either take the lie test, or go down to costa rica, and show them your mad skills and your f'ing check. I am sorry about this B.S line that you are afraid of someone killing you...
Something, is just not adding up here.
The owner of the casino software/book may have had problems, paying out to customers in the past, but something just seems fishy here. Even if you were a 'pro' player , which if you are why are you using easystreet, winning that amount of money you would think you would stop.
Also, Justin, I also agree with your statement of, if he used a bot, he should not have all of his winnings taking away, i may agree with that if he won money also where, say on a sports bet, however, he won all of his winnings from the casino game he was playing.
I may be 100 percent wrong here, but like i posted else where, my instincts are telling me, something is wrong.
(Even though I would never deposit with this book, since I love bodog already)Comment -
Very interesting thread. Has it been officially resolved or is it just specualtion?Comment -
Justin and SBR told EZstreet to pay the player in full. After that resolution, EZ wasnt happy with the fair ruling so they went across the street (where they advertise) to then get told, we are siding with you but please keep the advertisding dollars rolling in....So as of now, the players money is in the grubby pockets of the one Mr Alex Powers and i dont think its going anywhere, that is if the book even has the 46k which i dont think they doComment -
No offense pokerplayer22, I agree with you that the player should be paid, but your credibility on this forum IMO is shot. You are a scammer yourself, having scammed Sportbet, not even considering what Marvin explained about how you also scammed Jazz. Lying to Justin7 is the worst part. http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...ortbet-p2.htmlComment -
bongo i agree that credibility is the issue here.
seems that the scammers are out in full force supporting a fellow scammer.
i have been a bonus whore longer than just about everyone, but opening multiple accounts, using bots, doing chargebacks, etc etc crosses a moral line that most of us here are uncomfortable with.
it's one thing to play within the rules to grind away some profits, it's another thing entirely to lie, cheat, and steal.Comment -
I can confirm that Wilheim is nothing but a shill and a liar, and that he has no integrity to speak of. He also fails to understand even simple logic. He is the exact type of person you would NOT want as a mediator.
When I had a major problem with BetPhoenix, I attempted to post my story to the various forums. When I posted at therx, first they edited the title of my post. I was fine with that. Then Wilheim came into the thread and did the following, without knowing a single thing about me or my case:
1. talked about how great BetPhoenix was
2. said that my computer had been hacked, which was a lie he invented out of whole cloth
3. said that I was the type of person who blames all of my misfortunes on others
I wasn't too shocked to find out the head moderator was a shill, so I just thanked him for allowing me to post my story. After all, despite the interference he was running for BP, the facts of the case spoke for themselves.
Next he came back and again started bragging about how many people he has helped get paid by BP (bizarre that he's so dense that his way of telling you how great BP is is to let you know that you will be slow played unless you bring the issue to his attention). Then he even more bizarrely takes a shot at me for not telling the forum about an email Wilheim received concerning yet another BP slow play that had nothing to do with my case. Why would I mention that? And how would I even know about it in the first place?
This guy is clearly a mental midget (more on that later).
At this point I mention a very simple fact... that Wilheim is not an impartial observer. He works for therx and BP is a big advertiser there.
Wilheim comes back into the thread, and again showing that he is really bad at even simple logic, denies that he benefits in any way from talking people into playing at BetPhoenix (strange, because that's clearly his job - he's nothing but a shill and it shows.) He then moves my post to something called the "Rubber Room". So after casting doubt on my story and attacking me personally, he then moved the thread to somewhere where it wouldn't be read/taken seriously.
The idea that this guy could be trusted as an impartial mediator in a case involving one of his sponsors is just ludicrous. Even if he were impartial, he seems like he is simply too dumb for the job. Why is he talking about a lie detector test? Just how uneducated can someone be? Really? A lie detector test is supposed to 100% determine if this guy gets paid or not? 
And it's by an accredited Costan Rican company! You can't make this shit up. Get a ******* education people... look up "scientific method". "Lie detector test"? Why not just get an "accredited Costan Rican Shaman" you ******* ignoramuses??? It seriously pisses me off that people this stupid think they are smart enough to mediate such a dispute (can you tell I actually get mad? 
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Just look at the way Wilheim has handled this easystreet case and compare it to how Justin7 has conducted himself... Justin is a competent professional, while Wilheim is a total and complete hack. Wilheim is accepting at face value everything the book tells him, is happily repeating their lies and propaganda (i.e. no break after Royals... guess dummy just took their word for it - oops!), is bragging about a scenario he helped to organize in which the player must pass a lie detector test in order to get paid, is talking about how open easysteet is being despite his receiving no actual proof of anything... Not only is he a liar and a shill, not only does he not have any personal honor, he's also an incompetent clown. He is just about the worst person you could find to mediate this dispute.
Here's my thread, which he moved to the "Rubber Room":
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That's standard behavior at the RX and was standard on EOG when Shrink ran the show. Anything negative written about a sponsor is either deleted, edited, or moved to the garbage forum, at the RX it's "The Rubber Room" and on EOG it's "the Dump." And those making the negative posts are usually put on post review, meaning their posts won't appear unless a moderator approves them.
About a year ago, someone posted about a issue with poor customer service at 5Dimes and their post was promptly edited. I wrote "It's a shame the RX edits posts critical of advertising books even when the complaints are legitimate" and almost immediately my post was deleted and I was placed on post review, and the RX moderators said I was on post review for "bashing 5Dimes." Only in Wilhelm's ridiculous way of thinking is constructive criticism of a sponsor book considered "bashing."Comment -
this is why sbr is by far the best forum. i used to post at therx and eog but never even visit those sites any more.
i have bashed betphoenix and others here pretty harshly (but always truthfully) but sbr has never edited or moved any of those posts. and i'm 99% sure that a few of my posts would've been deleted or moved at eog/rx.Comment -
Wilhelm is now posting completely incorrect statistical information with regards to the odds of hitting a royal. He claims many years of expertise in Vegas with video payouts and that he never saw a player hit 3 royals in such a short period of time, claiming the odds of hitting 3 royals in 5800 hands is 125,000 to 1 against. That figure is wrong by a very large magnitude. I'm posting from my phone right now so I can't verify with a spreadsheet that does poisson calculations but since the odds of hitting a royal in any given hand at jacks or better is around 1 in 40,000, the odds of at least 3 in 5800 hands is somewhere in the ballpark of 1 in 1000 or 1 in 2000, nowhere near 1 in 125,000.
It's extremely embarrassing that someone who claims to be an offshore mediator with "many years of experience with VP payouts" would bungle a calculation so badly.Comment -
Having a rep come to Florida would be more reasonable then asking a player to come to what is practically a 3rd world country.......................
On the subject of the frequency of Royals, it has been made clear over at TheRX by now that it is not thousands and thousands to one against a player hitting 3 or more Royals in 9000 hands............it is very clear that it is less then 1 in 1000...........and probably less than 1 in 700.Comment -
Wil and the Rx were wrong to "mediate" this case. Very similar to when Shrink ruled for Oddsmaker after SBR had sided with the player. Shrink was smart enough to gauge sentiment and went back to Oddsmaker and said this is not going to work.
In this case Wil and theRx probably do not have the leeway to reverse the decision.
Which brings me back to my original point. They could have been honorable and told the book we can not effectively mediate this case. Please find a neutral mediator. Now they are trapped siding with the stiff and their credibility shot.
Shrink would have rallied the troops, try to blame SBR(lol), claim he had new info and got the player paid.Comment -
I am completely disgusted by the defense and actions of Wilheim, BetAllsports, and RobFunk, who are all moderators of the Rx. Wil continues to post lie after lie even when it is pointed out that his information is inaccurate. I am conviced no one over there has even bothered to look at the play logs.
Wil continues to claim the player played 17.4 hands per minute when it was actually closer to 11.2 according to the game logs.Comment -
Shilheim needs to step back from attempting to be a "mediator" in this case. He doesn't have the necessary competence nor impartiality. Furthermore, the player has no interest in working with Shilheim. At this point it is clear that Shilheim is mostly concerned with spreading pro-easystreet propaganda, without any regard for actual facts.Comment -
Easystreet is afraid to send an employee into U.S. jurisdiction, which make perfect sense. But couldn't they hire a consultant to represent them?
In Shilheim's propaganda he describes Costa Rica as a "tourist destination" when pointing out the player's reluctance to go there. OK, it is a tourist destination (in the case of San Jose, not so much, unless it is sex tourism, but for the rest of the country it's true). That doesn't mean there aren't people there you can hire on the cheap to throw someone a serious beating. I think the player's fears may be overblown, unless it is true he has scammed dozens of books, but it's disingenuous for Wilhelm to refer to San Jose as a "tourist destination" as if we are talking about Disney World. Disney World does not have Colombian gangsters nor Mexican cartel members, as far as I know.
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But then again with Cory having scammed so many books, he most likely scammed a mob owned or mob linked book down there as well. They probably wouldn't mind picking him up at the airport either.Easystreet is afraid to send an employee into U.S. jurisdiction, which make perfect sense. But couldn't they hire a consultant to represent them?
In Shilheim's propaganda he describes Costa Rica as a "tourist destination" when pointing out the player's reluctance to go there. OK, it is a tourist destination (in the case of San Jose, not so much, unless it is sex tourism, but for the rest of the country it's true). That doesn't mean there aren't people there you can hire on the cheap to throw someone a serious beating. I think the player's fears may be overblown, unless it is true he has scammed dozens of books, but it's disingenuous for Wilhelm to refer to San Jose as a "tourist destination" as if we are talking about Disney World. Disney World does not have Colombian gangsters nor Mexican cartel members, as far as I know.Comment -
I haven't seen any evidence that the player scammed "many books" other than Wilhelm's own words, and Wilhelm can't keep his stories straight. Once he said the player scammed 21 books, another time he said the player scammed 80% of the offshore books.
I'm on post review at the RX for making a single post about 5Dimes' poor customer service and the RX censoring posts about said topic, so I am unable to post in the EZ thread. I tried correcting Wilhelm's royal flush math, and I tried contrasting BetJam's policies about automated scripts and bots (which explicitly bans line scrapers) with Pinnacle's policy of allowing line scrapers provided the line scraper only checks the server no more than once per minute, but none of my posts have been allowed to go through as I'm censored there.
Wilhelm is online right now busy writing about being 63 and using an exercise bike, a highly relevant topic to sports betting, so it's not as if there's no mod around to approve my posts. Quite humorous the guy is constantly talking about needing some days off as if moderating a sports betting board is hard work when he has time to write paragraph after paragraph about exercise bikes but can't come anywhere near accurately calculating the odds of hitting 3 royals in 5800 hands and refuses to approve posts that correct his figure.Comment -
That's what I was thinking. That's why I said his fears for his physical safety do seem a little overblown, unless it is true that he has scammed dozens of books.
But I want to make clear that any reasonable and even remotely educated person would reject EZstreet's offer out of hand... The first part of their offer is that the payment is 100% dependent on cory1111 passing a "lie detector test" administered by a Costan Rican company hired by ezstreet. This is the same as saying they will hire a psychic in order to determine if the player cheated, and the payout will be 100% dependent on what the psychic says. Only a total and complete idiot would accept ezstreet's offer.Comment -
At this point there isn't really even anything to mediate. The game logs don't even look like anything played by a bot, as the player's time between hands varied substantially and the player took a lengthy break after hitting a royal, whereas EZ and the RX falsely claimed that the player took no breaks and played much faster than he actually did. This thread is too long to easily search through but Justin7's quote was something like "I have no idea how anyone could look at these game logs and think he used a bot."
Wilhelm now claims the player must have somehow rigged the software to hit that many royals, falsely claiming the odds of that happening legitimately are 1 in 125,000, but that is nowhere near the correct amount. I tried to correct his figure but I am apparently no longer allowed to post to the RX.Comment -
Correct...EZstreet (Alex Powers) has already made its decision to 100% stiff the player out of 46k on the grounds that he used a bot...no wait, on the grounds that he rigged the software, no wait, on the grounds that he didnt take a break after hitting a royal, no wait, on the grounds that he scammed other books (which have nothing to do with EZ), no wait, because Wilheim agreed that stiffing would be best, no wait, because the player wont fly halfway around the world to take a lie detector test....
Every one of EZ's theories have blown up in their face...We should hold a pool as to what the next reason will be for not paying the player. My guess wil be that the player wears a size 11 shoe and EZ doesnt play anyone wearing size 10-12 shoes.Comment
