EasyStreet casino winner accused of using robot software

[WVU]

Hand history has been posted across the street.

IMO all claims about the bot not being intelligent are thrown out the window when I see it adjusting bet sizes from $10 to $25.

If someone can point out at least 5 spots in that hand history where there was more than a 5 second pause in between hands I would say that is was slightly possible that he did not use a bot.

you really have a problem grasping reality. 7.59 hands per minute is pretty darn SLOW. There is no way he used a bot.

[Monitor-Tan]

It could be because, he probably played another hand then to realize saw his credit and it was jumped and he was like WOAH, and started his own fist pump and blah blah.


Personally, the way I look at it is this for people who question "bot" and AI

What is a bot or AI to the book and to the player and to us. What does a "bot" exactly do"

Is somethign that just randomly plays a hand considered a bot or a more precise and programmed macro.

I think the fault here is that the casino failed to emphasize WHAT THEY SEE AS A AI. Everyone has their different POV on what an AI is.

I think street here just failed on that and the player took advantage of it.

Where I see it, I think EZ street should pay him like 33% or around 16k to Cory and then move on.

Owning your own business comes with risk, here Street messed up and Cory took advantage of it.

Shady or not there's too much gray area in defining what AI is.

Just my 2cent

[BigDaddy]

well that file closes the case.

it was already half way closed but that just closed it

nothing but a broke book.

any poster still backing this book really needs to have their heads examined.

[WVU]

the play log shows 4055 hands that took 8 hours and 53 minutes. That means he played 7.59 hands per minute which is really slow.

Also the bunk about him not pausing after he hit his 20k royal? It looks like he hit the Royal played one hand and took a 19 minute break.

3-1-11 12:28 PM 0 28:24.3 19975 NR
3-1-11 12:28 PM 0 28:29.8 -25 -
3-1-11 12:47 PM 0 47:21.3 -25 -




This play log should bury EasyStreet. No bot play and he did indeed pause after hitting his royal.

I misread the log or my math was off.

5944 hands in 8 hours and 54 minutes = 11.13 hands per minute

[PoweRay]

These were posted by Reagan across the street:

Not much evidence of bot play in these breaks. 1st round of plays went from 9:03 to 9:31, played 514 hands averaging 18.4 hands per minute 1 hour 11 minute break 2nd round of plays went from 10:42 to 12:28, played 1981 hands averaging 18.7 hands per minute 19 minute break 3rd round went from 12:47 to 1:39, played 912 hands at 17.5 hands per minute 2 hour, 2 minute break Final round went from 3:41 to 5:57 played 2442 hands averaging 17.9 hands per minute

Some more fun evidence disproving bot play 600 hands with 2 second gap 2791 hands with 3 second gap 759 hands with 4 second gap 65 hands with 5 second gap 59 hands with 6 second gap Reply With Quote

[sharpcat]

I misread the log or my math was off.

5944 hands in 8 hours and 54 minutes = 11.13 hands per minute

how long did it take you to filter that mess?

[neverstoppers23]

well that file closes the case.

it was already half way closed but that just closed it

nothing but a broke book.

any poster still backing this book really needs to have their heads examined.

I disagree with that 100 percent, the guy used a bot, its obvious. According to EZ he has also scammed other books.
Why not either take the lie test, or go down to costa rica, and show them your mad skills and your f'ing check. I am sorry about this B.S line that you are afraid of someone killing you...
Something, is just not adding up here.
The owner of the casino software/book may have had problems, paying out to customers in the past, but something just seems fishy here. Even if you were a 'pro' player , which if you are why are you using easystreet, winning that amount of money you would think you would stop.

Also, Justin, I also agree with your statement of, if he used a bot, he should not have all of his winnings taking away, i may agree with that if he won money also where, say on a sports bet, however, he won all of his winnings from the casino game he was playing.

I may be 100 percent wrong here, but like i posted else where, my instincts are telling me, something is wrong.

(Even though I would never deposit with this book, since I love bodog already)

[McFly86]

I disagree with that 100 percent, the guy used a bot, its obvious. According to EZ he has also scammed other books.

Because the misconduct about other books is irrelevant.

It would be like me running someone down in my car and saying "it's ok b/c he didn't pay his gas bill last month"

[Eleven]

Very interesting thread. Has it been officially resolved or is it just specualtion?

[pokerplayer22]

Very interesting thread. Has it been officially resolved or is it just specualtion?

Justin and SBR told EZstreet to pay the player in full. After that resolution, EZ wasnt happy with the fair ruling so they went across the street (where they advertise) to then get told, we are siding with you but please keep the advertisding dollars rolling in....So as of now, the players money is in the grubby pockets of the one Mr Alex Powers and i dont think its going anywhere, that is if the book even has the 46k which i dont think they do

[milwaukee mike]

Because the misconduct about other books is irrelevant.

It would be like me running someone down in my car and saying "it's ok b/c he didn't pay his gas bill last month"

terrible analogy.

it would be more like running someone down with your car who was purposely jumping in front of it in order to collect insurance money.

[heyman]

Because the misconduct about other books is irrelevant.

It would be like me running someone down in my car and saying "it's ok b/c he didn't pay his gas bill last month"

No. It would be like convicting OJ of another murder now with only very circumstantial evidence.

[Bongo]

Justin and SBR told EZstreet to pay the player in full. After that resolution, EZ wasnt happy with the fair ruling so they went across the street (where they advertise) to then get told, we are siding with you but please keep the advertisding dollars rolling in....So as of now, the players money is in the grubby pockets of the one Mr Alex Powers and i dont think its going anywhere, that is if the book even has the 46k which i dont think they do

No offense pokerplayer22, I agree with you that the player should be paid, but your credibility on this forum IMO is shot. You are a scammer yourself, having scammed Sportbet, not even considering what Marvin explained about how you also scammed Jazz. Lying to Justin7 is the worst part.

You attempted to defraud Sportsbet. You closed out your account except for the referral bonus, and attempted to open your fourth account. At that point, a clerk identified you. Sportbet is not crooked. Sportbet has no outstanding no-pay complaints. I wasted hours of my life investigating your dispute. You contradicted yourself during the investigation (did they play from work? Or during your poker parties 3 times a week at your house, where they placed all their internet bets). You lied to OSGA, making up things that SBR never said. You lied to me when I asked you about it. You lied to Sportbet when you identified yourself on telephone as various different people. You continuously misrepresent the facts of this dispute. You're obviously free to post what you wish, but as I warned you privately, I'll continue correcting your factual misstatements.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...ortbet-p2.html

[milwaukee mike]

bongo i agree that credibility is the issue here.
seems that the scammers are out in full force supporting a fellow scammer.

i have been a bonus whore longer than just about everyone, but opening multiple accounts, using bots, doing chargebacks, etc etc crosses a moral line that most of us here are uncomfortable with.

it's one thing to play within the rules to grind away some profits, it's another thing entirely to lie, cheat, and steal.

[KGambler]

I can confirm that Wilheim is nothing but a shill and a liar, and that he has no integrity to speak of. He also fails to understand even simple logic. He is the exact type of person you would NOT want as a mediator.

When I had a major problem with BetPhoenix, I attempted to post my story to the various forums. When I posted at therx, first they edited the title of my post. I was fine with that. Then Wilheim came into the thread and did the following, without knowing a single thing about me or my case:

1. talked about how great BetPhoenix was
2. said that my computer had been hacked, which was a lie he invented out of whole cloth
3. said that I was the type of person who blames all of my misfortunes on others

I wasn't too shocked to find out the head moderator was a shill, so I just thanked him for allowing me to post my story. After all, despite the interference he was running for BP, the facts of the case spoke for themselves.

Next he came back and again started bragging about how many people he has helped get paid by BP (bizarre that he's so dense that his way of telling you how great BP is is to let you know that you will be slow played unless you bring the issue to his attention). Then he even more bizarrely takes a shot at me for not telling the forum about an email Wilheim received concerning yet another BP slow play that had nothing to do with my case. Why would I mention that? And how would I even know about it in the first place? This guy is clearly a mental midget (more on that later).

At this point I mention a very simple fact... that Wilheim is not an impartial observer. He works for therx and BP is a big advertiser there.

Wilheim comes back into the thread, and again showing that he is really bad at even simple logic, denies that he benefits in any way from talking people into playing at BetPhoenix (strange, because that's clearly his job - he's nothing but a shill and it shows.) He then moves my post to something called the "Rubber Room". So after casting doubt on my story and attacking me personally, he then moved the thread to somewhere where it wouldn't be read/taken seriously.

The idea that this guy could be trusted as an impartial mediator in a case involving one of his sponsors is just ludicrous. Even if he were impartial, he seems like he is simply too dumb for the job. Why is he talking about a lie detector test? Just how uneducated can someone be? Really? A lie detector test is supposed to 100% determine if this guy gets paid or not? And it's by an accredited Costan Rican company! You can't make this shit up. Get a ******* education people... look up "scientific method". "Lie detector test"? Why not just get an "accredited Costan Rican Shaman" you ******* ignoramuses??? It seriously pisses me off that people this stupid think they are smart enough to mediate such a dispute (can you tell I actually get mad? ).

Just look at the way Wilheim has handled this easystreet case and compare it to how Justin7 has conducted himself... Justin is a competent professional, while Wilheim is a total and complete hack. Wilheim is accepting at face value everything the book tells him, is happily repeating their lies and propaganda (i.e. no break after Royals... guess dummy just took their word for it - oops!), is bragging about a scenario he helped to organize in which the player must pass a lie detector test in order to get paid, is talking about how open easysteet is being despite his receiving no actual proof of anything... Not only is he a liar and a shill, not only does he not have any personal honor, he's also an incompetent clown. He is just about the worst person you could find to mediate this dispute.

Here's my thread, which he moved to the "Rubber Room":

[skrtelfan]

That's standard behavior at the RX and was standard on EOG when Shrink ran the show. Anything negative written about a sponsor is either deleted, edited, or moved to the garbage forum, at the RX it's "The Rubber Room" and on EOG it's "the Dump." And those making the negative posts are usually put on post review, meaning their posts won't appear unless a moderator approves them.

About a year ago, someone posted about a issue with poor customer service at 5Dimes and their post was promptly edited. I wrote "It's a shame the RX edits posts critical of advertising books even when the complaints are legitimate" and almost immediately my post was deleted and I was placed on post review, and the RX moderators said I was on post review for "bashing 5Dimes." Only in Wilhelm's ridiculous way of thinking is constructive criticism of a sponsor book considered "bashing."

[milwaukee mike]

That's standard behavior at the RX and was standard on EOG when Shrink ran the show. Anything negative written about a sponsor is either deleted, edited, or moved to the garbage forum, at the RX it's "The Rubber Room" and on EOG it's "the Dump." And those making the negative posts are usually put on post review, meaning their posts won't appear unless a moderator approves them.

About a year ago, someone posted about a issue with poor customer service at 5Dimes and their post was promptly edited. I wrote "It's a shame the RX edits posts critical of advertising books even when the complaints are legitimate" and almost immediately my post was deleted and I was placed on post review, and the RX moderators said I was on post review for "bashing 5Dimes." Only in Wilhelm's ridiculous way of thinking is constructive criticism of a sponsor book considered "bashing."

this is why sbr is by far the best forum. i used to post at therx and eog but never even visit those sites any more.

i have bashed betphoenix and others here pretty harshly (but always truthfully) but sbr has never edited or moved any of those posts. and i'm 99% sure that a few of my posts would've been deleted or moved at eog/rx.

[skrtelfan]

Wilhelm is now posting completely incorrect statistical information with regards to the odds of hitting a royal. He claims many years of expertise in Vegas with video payouts and that he never saw a player hit 3 royals in such a short period of time, claiming the odds of hitting 3 royals in 5800 hands is 125,000 to 1 against. That figure is wrong by a very large magnitude. I'm posting from my phone right now so I can't verify with a spreadsheet that does poisson calculations but since the odds of hitting a royal in any given hand at jacks or better is around 1 in 40,000, the odds of at least 3 in 5800 hands is somewhere in the ballpark of 1 in 1000 or 1 in 2000, nowhere near 1 in 125,000.

It's extremely embarrassing that someone who claims to be an offshore mediator with "many years of experience with VP payouts" would bungle a calculation so badly.

[ncsubowen]

I disagree with that 100 percent, the guy used a bot, its obvious. According to EZ he has also scammed other books. Why not either take the lie test, or go down to costa rica, and show them your mad skills and your f'ing check. I am sorry about this B.S line that you are afraid of someone killing you... Something, is just not adding up here. The owner of the casino software/book may have had problems, paying out to customers in the past, but something just seems fishy here. Even if you were a 'pro' player , which if you are why are you using easystreet, winning that amount of money you would think you would stop. Also, Justin, I also agree with your statement of, if he used a bot, he should not have all of his winnings taking away, i may agree with that if he won money also where, say on a sports bet, however, he won all of his winnings from the casino game he was playing. I may be 100 percent wrong here, but like i posted else where, my instincts are telling me, something is wrong. (Even though I would never deposit with this book, since I love bodog already)

Why in god's name would you ever agree to fly down to a foreign country and walk into a place that is notoriously shady and just so happens to owe you 46g's? Do you enjoy re-enacting scenes from the Passion of the Christ? Is your name Toby?

[AimingHigh]

Why in god's name would you ever agree to fly down to a foreign country and walk into a place that is notoriously shady and just so happens to owe you 46g's? Do you enjoy re-enacting scenes from the Passion of the Christ? Is your name Toby?

Please. I'm sure an SBR rep would happily go with him. If you think the entirety of CR is like that, I assume you have no funds offshore?

[Fishhead]

Having a rep come to Florida would be more reasonable then asking a player to come to what is practically a 3rd world country.......................

On the subject of the frequency of Royals, it has been made clear over at TheRX by now that it is not thousands and thousands to one against a player hitting 3 or more Royals in 9000 hands............it is very clear that it is less then 1 in 1000...........and probably less than 1 in 700.

[SBR_John]

Wil and the Rx were wrong to "mediate" this case. Very similar to when Shrink ruled for Oddsmaker after SBR had sided with the player. Shrink was smart enough to gauge sentiment and went back to Oddsmaker and said this is not going to work.

In this case Wil and theRx probably do not have the leeway to reverse the decision.

Which brings me back to my original point. They could have been honorable and told the book we can not effectively mediate this case. Please find a neutral mediator. Now they are trapped siding with the stiff and their credibility shot.

Shrink would have rallied the troops, try to blame SBR(lol), claim he had new info and got the player paid.

[ncsubowen]

Please. I'm sure an SBR rep would happily go with him. If you think the entirety of CR is like that, I assume you have no funds offshore?

I've been to CR before, I'm not worried so much about that as I would be the management at EZ and the general state of this whole issue.

[WVU]

I am completely disgusted by the defense and actions of Wilheim, BetAllsports, and RobFunk, who are all moderators of the Rx. Wil continues to post lie after lie even when it is pointed out that his information is inaccurate. I am conviced no one over there has even bothered to look at the play logs.

Wil continues to claim the player played 17.4 hands per minute when it was actually closer to 11.2 according to the game logs.

[KGambler]

Wilhelm is now posting completely incorrect statistical information with regards to the odds of hitting a royal. He claims many years of expertise in Vegas with video payouts and that he never saw a player hit 3 royals in such a short period of time, claiming the odds of hitting 3 royals in 5800 hands is 125,000 to 1 against. That figure is wrong by a very large magnitude. I'm posting from my phone right now so I can't verify with a spreadsheet that does poisson calculations but since the odds of hitting a royal in any given hand at jacks or better is around 1 in 40,000, the odds of at least 3 in 5800 hands is somewhere in the ballpark of 1 in 1000 or 1 in 2000, nowhere near 1 in 125,000.

It's extremely embarrassing that someone who claims to be an offshore mediator with "many years of experience with VP payouts" would bungle a calculation so badly.

Shilheim needs to step back from attempting to be a "mediator" in this case. He doesn't have the necessary competence nor impartiality. Furthermore, the player has no interest in working with Shilheim. At this point it is clear that Shilheim is mostly concerned with spreading pro-easystreet propaganda, without any regard for actual facts.

[KGambler]

Having a rep come to Florida would be more reasonable then asking a player to come to what is practically a 3rd world country.......................

Easystreet is afraid to send an employee into U.S. jurisdiction, which make perfect sense. But couldn't they hire a consultant to represent them?

In Shilheim's propaganda he describes Costa Rica as a "tourist destination" when pointing out the player's reluctance to go there. OK, it is a tourist destination (in the case of San Jose, not so much, unless it is sex tourism, but for the rest of the country it's true). That doesn't mean there aren't people there you can hire on the cheap to throw someone a serious beating. I think the player's fears may be overblown, unless it is true he has scammed dozens of books, but it's disingenuous for Wilhelm to refer to San Jose as a "tourist destination" as if we are talking about Disney World. Disney World does not have Colombian gangsters nor Mexican cartel members, as far as I know.

[KGambler]

Wil and the Rx were wrong to "mediate" this case. Very similar to when Shrink ruled for Oddsmaker after SBR had sided with the player. Shrink was smart enough to gauge sentiment and went back to Oddsmaker and said this is not going to work.

In this case Wil and theRx probably do not have the leeway to reverse the decision.

Which brings me back to my original point. They could have been honorable and told the book we can not effectively mediate this case. Please find a neutral mediator. Now they are trapped siding with the stiff and their credibility shot.

Shrink would have rallied the troops, try to blame SBR(lol), claim he had new info and got the player paid.

You mentioned a bunch of people who you thought would be good candidates to mediate this dispute. How about adding the guy who runs Casinomeister to the list? He seems to be very reputable and certainly knows the online casino industry.

[PoweRay]

Easystreet is afraid to send an employee into U.S. jurisdiction, which make perfect sense. But couldn't they hire a consultant to represent them?

In Shilheim's propaganda he describes Costa Rica as a "tourist destination" when pointing out the player's reluctance to go there. OK, it is a tourist destination (in the case of San Jose, not so much, unless it is sex tourism, but for the rest of the country it's true). That doesn't mean there aren't people there you can hire on the cheap to throw someone a serious beating. I think the player's fears may be overblown, unless it is true he has scammed dozens of books, but it's disingenuous for Wilhelm to refer to San Jose as a "tourist destination" as if we are talking about Disney World. Disney World does not have Colombian gangsters nor Mexican cartel members, as far as I know.

But then again with Cory having scammed so many books, he most likely scammed a mob owned or mob linked book down there as well. They probably wouldn't mind picking him up at the airport either.

[WVU]

You mentioned a bunch of people who you thought would be good candidates to mediate this dispute. How about adding the guy who runs Casinomeister to the list? He seems to be very reputable and certainly knows the online casino industry.

I know Bryan of Casinomeister. I have worked with him before. He and I worked on online casino diputes together way back in 1999-2000

[skrtelfan]

I haven't seen any evidence that the player scammed "many books" other than Wilhelm's own words, and Wilhelm can't keep his stories straight. Once he said the player scammed 21 books, another time he said the player scammed 80% of the offshore books.

I'm on post review at the RX for making a single post about 5Dimes' poor customer service and the RX censoring posts about said topic, so I am unable to post in the EZ thread. I tried correcting Wilhelm's royal flush math, and I tried contrasting BetJam's policies about automated scripts and bots (which explicitly bans line scrapers) with Pinnacle's policy of allowing line scrapers provided the line scraper only checks the server no more than once per minute, but none of my posts have been allowed to go through as I'm censored there.

Wilhelm is online right now busy writing about being 63 and using an exercise bike, a highly relevant topic to sports betting, so it's not as if there's no mod around to approve my posts. Quite humorous the guy is constantly talking about needing some days off as if moderating a sports betting board is hard work when he has time to write paragraph after paragraph about exercise bikes but can't come anywhere near accurately calculating the odds of hitting 3 royals in 5800 hands and refuses to approve posts that correct his figure.

[KGambler]

But then again with Cory having scammed so many books, he most likely scammed a mob owned or mob linked book down there as well. They probably wouldn't mind picking him up at the airport either.

That's what I was thinking. That's why I said his fears for his physical safety do seem a little overblown, unless it is true that he has scammed dozens of books.

But I want to make clear that any reasonable and even remotely educated person would reject EZstreet's offer out of hand... The first part of their offer is that the payment is 100% dependent on cory1111 passing a "lie detector test" administered by a Costan Rican company hired by ezstreet. This is the same as saying they will hire a psychic in order to determine if the player cheated, and the payout will be 100% dependent on what the psychic says. Only a total and complete idiot would accept ezstreet's offer.

[KGambler]

I haven't seen any evidence that the player scammed "many books" other than Wilhelm's own words, and Wilhelm can't keep his stories straight. Once he said the player scammed 21 books, another time he said the player scammed 80% of the offshore books..

I agree. In the absence of evidence or outside verification, nothing Shilheim says about this case can be taken seriously at this point.

[skrtelfan]

At this point there isn't really even anything to mediate. The game logs don't even look like anything played by a bot, as the player's time between hands varied substantially and the player took a lengthy break after hitting a royal, whereas EZ and the RX falsely claimed that the player took no breaks and played much faster than he actually did. This thread is too long to easily search through but Justin7's quote was something like "I have no idea how anyone could look at these game logs and think he used a bot."

Wilhelm now claims the player must have somehow rigged the software to hit that many royals, falsely claiming the odds of that happening legitimately are 1 in 125,000, but that is nowhere near the correct amount. I tried to correct his figure but I am apparently no longer allowed to post to the RX.

[pokerplayer22]

Correct...EZstreet (Alex Powers) has already made its decision to 100% stiff the player out of 46k on the grounds that he used a bot...no wait, on the grounds that he rigged the software, no wait, on the grounds that he didnt take a break after hitting a royal, no wait, on the grounds that he scammed other books (which have nothing to do with EZ), no wait, because Wilheim agreed that stiffing would be best, no wait, because the player wont fly halfway around the world to take a lie detector test....

Every one of EZ's theories have blown up in their face...We should hold a pool as to what the next reason will be for not paying the player. My guess wil be that the player wears a size 11 shoe and EZ doesnt play anyone wearing size 10-12 shoes.

[WVU]

I am posting my comments to Wil's recent statement here as I doubt it will make it past post review at the Rx:

To clear up some misconceptions.

1. Hitting the three Royals in the short span of time is not against the rules at Ez ST but when Cory1111 hit three hands worth a total of $60K in a short span of time it gave them pause as it would nearly any book to check out the players method of play. No argument here from me. All shops will want to investigate any big casin win.

2. While checking out Cory1111's method of play they discovered the never seen before rate of 17.4 hands per minute played over an extended period of time. This is incorrect. Cory played at a rate of 11.1 hands per minute according to the play logs

This led them to believe that a bot may have been used instead of a live person which is against clearly posted Ez st. rules. Hence the investigation that uncovered all of the information regarding Cory1111's history of defrauding books extensively not to mention a similar occurrence on the same software at another book. See my answer above. 11.1 hands per minute is actually fairly slow for VP play, even for a novice.

3. In an effort to allow him to clear his name after all things were considered Ez St offered to pay him in full if he accepted an Rx.com guarantee that they would hold funds in escrow for an all expenses trip to Costa Rica to A. Take a polygraph and B. Duplicate for several hours, maybe a few as three if he insisted of his 17.4 hands per minute play on the identical game in the offices of the software company that designed the game also located in Costa Rica, if he passed both he would have been paid in full. I offered to put this all in some sort of legal document Again, you keep repeating 17.4 hands per minute when in actuality it was 11.1. Asking a winning player to fly to CR and/or take a polygraph is ridiculous.

Lets discuss this polygraph - this was never intended to be a police like polygraph or something a DA would ask a suspect to take. There was never going to be any secondary consequences if his answers indicated he was not being honest.Polygraphs, depending on the qestions asked can be as much as 30% inaccurate according to experts. Why would anyone agree to take one?

The only consequence if he flunked the polygraph based on a neutral polygraph experts interpretation of the results was he would not be paid. Had he passed it then demonstrated the play described above he would have been played in full plus his expenses for the trip once receipts for airline and hotel rooms were sent to The Rx after he was back in the US along with $100 a day per diem to allow him to eat without spending his own funds. He would be paid his expenses pass or flunk with again a legal document made a available should he want it. Legal as far as the court of public opinion goes, I am not familiar with how he could use them in a US court bit they could hold some weight in a Costa Rican court. There is no doubt in my mind if he made the trip that both the Rx and especially Ez St would live up to their agreement. I had the owner of Ez st's word on that, not just the GM's. There may be no doubt in your mind that EasyStreet would live up to what they say, but there is reason for many of us to believe otherwise.

The questioning would be restricted to just one area other than a few routine questions such as are you Cory1111, were you born on such and such a date and maybe are your eyes brown to establish a baseline.

Baseline established all anyone was interested in was "did you use a bot or any other type of software designed to play the XYZ video poker game at the Ez St.casino?

That was it, a legal document to that effect could have been drawn up with copies furnished to any third part Cory1111 designated. Results would be furnished to Cory1111, anyone he cared to designate to receive a copy such as SBR, Ez St management and The Rx.com. That would be it. All this business of the polygraph incriminating him of anything else is not true. EasyStreet has told mistruths throughout this dispute so there is no reason for anyone to believe this wasn't a setup. Why would anyone have to prove their innocence?

Apparently that will not be happening, so rather than do what I could do seeing how I am fired from the case by Cory1111. I am going to go on a fact finding mission to Ez st this week during which I will compile data on everything Cory1111 did during his time playing at Ez St. I believe I understand his motive now for playing there but I will post that after my visit if plausible. Honestly Wil, you have already proven to not grasp the numbers that have been talked about in this thread so you surely aren't qualified to "compile" data or even make an inference based on that data. The fact that you keep saying over and over that the odds of hitting 3 royals in 8865 hands is 125,000 to 1 when in reality it is about 1 in 700.

I know that his past history is not reason enough to not to pay him as does Ez st. but it is reason enough to cloud the issue and to cast some doubt on the veracity of his claims. Clouding the issue sure does seem like what you are doing in this thread. EasyStreet has to prove bot use, and they clearly did not.

He lied to me the first time he contacted me. When asked how he hit his third Royal he claimed he was dealt it, the truth is he drew three cards to it..I could go on but I have to believe anyone with an open mind can see my point. You simply cannot believe everything he says.

In a very real sense I am his last hope to get paid. He will not help himself, SBR from what I can gather almost immediately took his side in the case but I will add that their methods are none of my concern or business. You are not his only hope. Easystreet will have to decide to pay this guy or not, but if they do not their Sportsbook name will be mud. Since they rely heavily on forums for business then they will become extinct if they choose to not pay their winners. Forum posters will never forget what happened here.

Oddly I can by now tell by just looking at the poster name of the last poster in this thread, the name of that poster is displayed outside the thread as to what to expect when I open it and read the post.

I will be honest there are several posters involved in this thread that I do respect the opinions of and several that I do not. You probably know who you are but the bottom line is The Rx allowed this thread to stand and be discussed something that we often get accused of not allowing. While commending yourself for letting this thread stand, you also must remember that several posters including myself have been banned or PR'ed. So even thought the thread is still here there were key points made that wer not allowed to stand as that was the way the thread was moderated.

I said in the very beginning I was not going to allow non posters with obvious agendas to come out of the woodwork and hijack the thread but any veteran Rxer who posts on a regular basis has been able to add his input without being censored. Several ghosts have come from outside The Rx do try and discredit everyone except Cory1111. They are no longer around. I am a longtime forum poster here with over 11,000 posts and I have been censored.

Today may be the day I visit Ez St but more likely it will be Tuesday or Wednesday. Don't expect another day of Q and A. You have my plans outlined briefly. My report will be honest and will reflect what I find out by examining a variety of playing histories among other matters. Again, you are not qualified to do this investigative work. You clearly do not grasp the numbers which are key to the arguments here.

Thanks, wilheim