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[Aristocles]

well done getting ahead of that sizeable handicap but the fact remains that you are giving up far too much by starting that far behind

it's tough enough to make a good return on investment at sports betting without having to give up so much of it in overheads such as that, and if you're American to have to pay tax on what's left over

maybe you don't care but hopefully some smarter readers will have a good think about the numbers involved there

Yes, there are without doubt much smarter readers than I am. Clearly your opus here demonstrates your own edification.

But you are a c*nt. No, seriously, you are a c*nt. If depositing 250 USD via my C-C, because it was handy, to merely check out the place makes me less than smart in your mind then who gives a sh-it?

BTW: Does that giant cognitive facility you call a brain give any clue about spelling? Sizeable? Indeed, you are a fukking genius.

[Hareeba!]

Yes, there are without doubt much smarter readers than I am. Clearly your opus here demonstrates your own edification.

But you are a c*nt. No, seriously, you are a c*nt. If depositing 250 USD via my C-C, because it was handy, to merely check out the place makes me less than smart in your mind then who gives a sh-it?

BTW: Does that giant cognitive facility you call a brain give any clue about spelling? Sizeable? Indeed, you are a fukking genius.

Thanks for all those illuminating insults

But as for your sizeable knowledge of spelling perhaps you could do with a little education in the English language and check your facts before posting such ignorant comments next time.

oh, and btw ... "fukking" isn't in any dictionary I'm aware of.

[Aristocles]

Thanks for all those illuminating insults

But as for your sizeable knowledge of spelling perhaps you could do with a little education in the English language and check your facts before posting such ignorant comments next time.

oh, and btw ... "fukking" isn't in any dictionary I'm aware of.

Sizable is the accepted American spelling, try right clicking the red underlined word or words. One drops the "e", since this forum is located, where? . Here, c*nt:

Dropped “e”:
Back to Top When adding a suffix to a word ending in “e”, British spelling often keeps the “e” (e.g. “ageing”, “likeable”, “sizeable”, “judgement”) whereas the American and Canadian drops the “e” (e.g. “aging”, “likable”, “sizable”, “judgment”).
But there are many exceptions, where both Britain and the US drop the “e” (e.g. “breathable”, “curable”, “lovable”, “believable”), and the “e” is retained in all countries where needed to preserve a soft “c” or “g” sound (e.g. “changeable”, “knowledgeable”, “traceable”).

"Fukking" is merely a way to circumvent any filters that the site might employ. Also, an ellipsis is ". . ."

Now, go back to annoying others. You are done here. You came into this thread and insulted directly, twice. I probably should not have responded.

Just sit back and when my picks all lose come back and slam me, sound okay?

[Hareeba!]

Sizable is the accepted American spelling, try right clicking the red underlined word or words. One drops the "e", since this forum is located, where? . Here, c*nt:

Dropped “e”:
Back to Top When adding a suffix to a word ending in “e”, British spelling often keeps the “e” (e.g. “ageing”, “likeable”, “sizeable”, “judgement”) whereas the American and Canadian drops the “e” (e.g. “aging”, “likable”, “sizable”, “judgment”).
But there are many exceptions, where both Britain and the US drop the “e” (e.g. “breathable”, “curable”, “lovable”, “believable”), and the “e” is retained in all countries where needed to preserve a soft “c” or “g” sound (e.g. “changeable”, “knowledgeable”, “traceable”).

"Fukking" is merely a way to circumvent any filters that the site might employ, c*nt. Also, c*unt, an ellipsis is ". . ."

Now, go back to annoying others. You are done here.

I decide when I'm done mate, not you.
And I'm not finished with you yet.
Firstly, my language is English, not American.
"Sizeable" is far and away the more acceptable spelling in most English speaking countries.
I am aware that Americans have done immense damage to our language and when dealing with Americans I just have to tolerate that. But I do come down hard on anyone else for being so influenced by the excessive amounts of American culture on our TV and in our cinemas.
And neither will I tolerate an American telling me how to speak or write in English.
And seeing as you seem to be somewhat short of them, let me give you a clue.
If you misspell a word in this forum it will appear with a squiggly red underline which alerts one to the fact. "Sizeable" doesn't trigger that feature so even in this US centred forum it is acceptable spelling.

[Aristocles]

I decide when I'm done mate, not you.
And I'm not finished with you yet.
Firstly, my language is English, not American.
"Sizeable" is far and away the more acceptable spelling in most English speaking countries.
I am aware that Americans have done immense damage to the English language and when dealing with Americans I just have to tolerate that. But I do come down hard on anyone else for being so influenced by the excessive amounts of American culture on our TV.
And seeing as you seem to be somewhat short of them, let me give you a clue.
If you misspell a word in this forum it will appear with a squiggly red underline which alerts one to the fact. "Sizeable" doesn't trigger that feature so even in this US centred forum it is acceptable spelling.

Sadly c*unt it indeed appears with a red line underneath on my screen as does your "centred". I posted the above link as an attempt to edify you. Your language is what it is. But this forum is 'Americentric', were I posting on a forum that was UK based then I would have spelled the word accordingly.

I fully realize that you despise both Americans and things American. I have read your petty and ignorant insults ad nauseum, here. You are a pathetic little man with an even more pathetic little brain. Tell me was it American TV that caused you to be ignorant of the proper form of the ellipsis? Guess so.

[unclebuzz1]

My first question should have been "What do you consider a 'token amount' to be?" but you've given it as $250. Now I can compute that it cost you 8% to send money in and another 20% (of what you sent in) to get money out. My only observation is that it's a 28% loss before you start wagering. Once again, good luck on tonight's games!

[Hareeba!]

Sadly c*unt it indeed appears with a red line underneath on my screen as does your "centred". I posted the above link as an attempt to edify you. Your language is what it is. But this forum is 'Americentric', were I posting on a forum that was UK based then I would have spelled the word accordingly.

I fully realize that you despise both Americans and things American. I have read your petty and ignorant insults ad nauseum, here. You are a pathetic little man with an even more pathetic little brain. Tell me was it American TV that caused you to be ignorant of the proper form of the ellipsis? Guess so.

Well that is very odd, neither of those words appear underlined for me. Perhaps this is dictated by one's Windows settings rather than this site's software?

But in your response the following do:
realize - I won't berate you as an American for that distortion
nauseum - Unforgivable in my view regardless of where you come from
Americentric - I'll let you get away with that as a contrived word to make your point

You are very wrong. I don't despise Americans. I have American friends and relatives with whom I get on just fine.

What I do despise is the ugliness of the way our language has been distorted by Americans.
As I said, I will tolerate that coming from an American but I will not tolerate an American telling me how to speak or write English such as you did in regard to "sizeable".
And I will not lower myself to writing or speaking distorted English in a forum just because it is mostly populated by Americans.
If you can't accept that then stick it up your ARSE, not your donkey

[Aristocles]

My first question should have been "What do you consider a 'token amount' to be?" but you've given it as $250. Now I can compute that it cost you 8% to send money in and another 20% (of what you sent in) to get money out. My only observation is that it's a 28% loss before you start wagering. Once again, good luck on tonight's games!

Correct. It cost me the princely sum of 20 bucks to deposit for a test drive, with the full knowledge that I could have deposited 1500 via another method for the sum of 15 bucks. Yes, it is a huge price to pay for a test run but I think I'll survive it. Token amount. I doubt I withdraw from this deposit, either by choice or by forced choice.

And again, thank you, ever so much.

[Aristocles]

Well that is very odd, neither of those words appear underlined for me. Perhaps this is dictated by one's Windows settings rather than this site's software?

But in your response the following do:
realize - I won't berate you as an American for that distortion
nauseum - Unforgivable in my view regardless of where you come from
Americentric - I'll let you get away with that as a contrived word to make your point

You are very wrong. I don't despise Americans. I have American friends and relatives with whom I get on just fine.

What I do despise is the ugliness of the way our language has been distorted by Americans.
As I said, I will tolerate that coming from an American but I will not tolerate an American telling me how to speak or write English such as you did in regard to "sizeable".
And I will not lower myself to writing or speaking distorted English in a forum just because it is mostly populated by Americans.
If you can't accept that then stick it up your ARSE, not your donkey

Utter bullshit. You have typed on this forum reams of garbage slandering America and Americans. Search.

What I can't accept is a dumb ass who attempts to chide others who is too fukking stupid to properly employ an ellipsis. Not to mention your habit of block writing rather than the accepted format, or perhaps it is just the pathetic hypocrisy I see when some idiot fails to even properly punctuate sentences or capitalize (uh-oh) words. You are a pathetic hypocrite. Condescending about the way Americans employ language when you are too ignorant to even punctuate a sentence, or write down grammatical devices.

Here, 'google' this, asshole (note how I use that "enter" button twice here?):

"lite dare sanctum canibus: neque mittatis margaritas vestras ante porcos, ne forte conculcent eas pedibus suis, et conversi dirumpant vos."


If you can't accept that, then go fukk yourself.

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Examples of your atrocities:

"I decide when I'm done mate, not you.
And I'm not finished with you yet.
Firstly, my language is English, not American."

"well done getting ahead of that sizeable handicap but the fact remains that you are giving up far too much by starting that far behind

it's tough enough to make a good return on investment at sports betting without having to give up so much of it in overheads such as that, and if you're American to have to pay tax on what's left over

maybe you don't care but hopefully some smarter readers will have a good think about the numbers involved "

I am done with this as I am aware you never stop and are both pedantic and pathetic. Bye, now.

[Hareeba!]

Utter bullshit. You have typed on this forum reams of garbage slandering America and Americans. Search.

What I can't accept is a dumb ass who attempts to chide others who is too fukking stupid to properly employ an ellipsis. Not to mention your habit of block writing rather than the accepted format, or perhaps it is just the pathetic hypocrisy I see when some idiot fails to even properly punctuate sentences or capitalize (uh-oh) words. You are a pathetic hypocrite. Condescending about the way Americans employ language when you are too ignorant to even punctuate a sentence, or write down grammatical devices.

Here google this asshole (note how I use that "enter" button twice here?):

"lite dare sanctum canibus: neque mittatis margaritas vestras ante porcos, ne forte conculcent eas pedibus suis, et conversi dirumpant vos."


If you can't accept that, then go fukk yourself.

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Examples of your atrocities:

"I decide when I'm done mate, not you.
And I'm not finished with you yet.
Firstly, my language is English, not American."

"well done getting ahead of that sizeable handicap but the fact remains that you are giving up far too much by starting that far behind

it's tough enough to make a good return on investment at sports betting without having to give up so much of it in overheads such as that, and if you're American to have to pay tax on what's left over

maybe you don't care but hopefully some smarter readers will have a good think about the numbers involved "

I am done with this as I aware you never stop and are both pedantic and pathetic. Bye, now.

Charming!

And thanks for all the grammatical lessons. Pardon my sins. I wasn't aware that this forum demanded such literary perfection.

But may I remind you that it was you who started that by ignorantly accusing me over a spelling issue.

I'll ignore all the insults but will challenge you to show me where I have ever "slandered America and Americans".

However as per many past experiences on this forum, when I've challenged those cowards who continually post insults to prove their claims, I don't expect I'll get a response.

[QQPALLADIUM]

Charming!

And thanks for all the grammatical lessons. Pardon my sins. I wasn't aware that this forum demanded such literary perfection.

But may I remind you that it was you who started that by ignorantly accusing me over a spelling issue.

I'll ignore all the insults but will challenge you to show me where I have ever "slandered America and Americans".

However as per many past experiences on this forum, when I've challenged those cowards who continually post insults to prove their claims, I don't expect I'll get a response.

i think the word you used or acknowledged was seppo....

[Aristocles]

And indeed you 'shan't' get one here. But I guarantee I am NO coward, in any sense.

Perhaps it's time you posed yourself a query? Why do so many people accuse me of the same thing? Your answer, sans doubt, will be that they do it because they are all insecure and ignorant.

I do apologize for the Argumentum ad Hominem. It was out of line, just antagonizing. It was silly.

I am finished.

[Hareeba!]

And indeed you 'shan't' get one here.

Perhaps it's time you posed yourself a query? Why do so many people accuse me of the same thing? Your answer, sans doubt, will be that they do it because they are all insecure and ignorant.

I do apologize for the Argumentum ad Hominem. It was out of line.

Seriously, I am finished.

So, that remains just another cowardly attack with failure to even attempt any justification.

I suppose a withdrawal of the accusation would also be too much to expect?

[Johnnythunder]

It appears from the live chats I've had with this book that their customer service people are dreadful. That's the impression I get.The 8 percent thing is insanity and the moron who I was IM'ing with over there claimed it was merely their fees. I wish we had a real exchange.

[QQPALLADIUM]

So, that remains just another cowardly attack with failure to even attempt any justification.

I suppose a withdrawal of the accusation would also be too much to expect?

funny how you ask for withdrawals but won't listen to your own advice regarding the word you acknowledged.

[Hareeba!]

funny how you ask for withdrawals but won't listen to your own advice regarding the word you acknowledged.

That may mean something to you but to me it remains a mystery.

[QQPALLADIUM]

That may mean something to you but to me it remains a mystery.

your comrade called us seppos....next time you come to the usa use that word and you will get beaten up.

[Hareeba!]

your comrade called us seppos....next time you come to the usa use that word and you will get beaten up.

Once again you post a lie!

I've never ever used that word.


And this coming from someone who referred to us as convicts!


Retraction and apology demanded.

[QQPALLADIUM]

what i said was fact...google it.

what your buddy said you did not dispute...you would have been great in 1930's germany...

[Hareeba!]

what i said was fact...google it.

what your buddy said you did not dispute...you would have been great in 1930's germany...

What "fact" should I google?

No poster on this forum is my "buddy"

What was it that I should have disputed?

[QQPALLADIUM]

i am done with you...you are not very smart...and i am only in the 8th grade...you must be an abo.

[Hareeba!]

i am done with you...you are not very smart...and i am only in the 8th grade...you must be an abo.

So here's a guy who thinks nothing of calling people convicts or abos yet objects to someone referring to Americans as seppos.

If he had half a clue he'd know that 200 years ago convicts were transported to America as well as to Australia.

I personally am not a descendent of one of those, not that it would worry me in the slightest if I were. And same goes for being Aboriginal.

And statistically it is more than likely that he himself does indeed have a convict in his ancestry like most of us would.

[unclebuzz1]

Hi Todd, GL reading all the posts today!

[wrongturn]

pretty crazy trading on the mlb game 6 by the way.

[wrongturn]

wow the crazies just doubled!

[todd73nj]

well done getting ahead of that sizeable handicap but the fact remains that you are giving up far too much by starting that far behind

it's tough enough to make a good return on investment at sports betting without having to give up so much of it in overheads such as that, and if you're American to have to pay tax on what's left over

maybe you don't care but hopefully some smarter readers will have a good think about the numbers involved there

If $50 +8% deters you - maybe you need to readjust your whole strategy.

As demonstrated by MBs 100+ day slow pay, they did not have any cash on hand to pay anyone. Rob Peter to pay Paul strategy.

Betmaker is backed by an A rated book, and I think paying that fee to withdraw is basically a fee to have my money safe. I have no problem with it at all. Is it high? Sure. Is it worth the saftey to me? Yes.

Only a real small player would really need to consider not playing. But for someone who claims they are making money. $50 is a drop in the pan to know you are going to get your money.

[todd73nj]

It appears from the live chats I've had with this book that their customer service people are dreadful. That's the impression I get.The 8 percent thing is insanity and the moron who I was IM'ing with over there claimed it was merely their fees. I wish we had a real exchange.

Call the phone # and ask for Rich if you have an issue!

pretty crazy trading on the mlb game 6 by the way.

Crazy in a good way???

[Hareeba!]

If $50 +8% deters you - maybe you need to readjust your whole strategy.

As demonstrated by MBs 100+ day slow pay, they did not have any cash on hand to pay anyone. Rob Peter to pay Paul strategy.

Betmaker is backed by an A rated book, and I think paying that fee to withdraw is basically a fee to have my money safe. I have no problem with it at all. Is it high? Sure. Is it worth the saftey to me? Yes.

Only a real small player would really need to consider not playing. But for someone who claims they are making money. $50 is a drop in the pan to know you are going to get your money.

There you go with your tripe again!
I've never heard of a slow pay complaint by an account holder at MB. Get over it.
My money is certainly safer at MB than it would be at Betmaker.
The $50 may be relatively small if that's a fixed fee but 8% on deposits is just absurd.
I don't pay fees to anyone for deposits or withdrawals.

[Johnnythunder]

There you go with your tripe again!
I've never heard of a slow pay complaint by an account holder at MB. Get over it.
My money is certainly safer at MB than it would be at Betmaker.
The $50 may be relatively small if that's a fixed fee but 8% on deposits is just absurd.
I don't pay fees to anyone for deposits or withdrawals.

The 8 percent is a complete laugh and their customer service people spell like they're in third grade.
It's beyond belief that they would not take this exchange seriously.

[Hareeba!]

The 8 percent is a complete laugh and their customer service people spell like they're in third grade.
It's beyond belief that they would not take this exchange seriously.

Perhaps the talk of BM/DSI exiting the US scene is a clue as to why?
They would know that it would be almost impossible to compete with Betfair.

[todd73nj]

There you go with your tripe again!
I've never heard of a slow pay complaint by an account holder at MB. Get over it.
My money is certainly safer at MB than it would be at Betmaker.
The $50 may be relatively small if that's a fixed fee but 8% on deposits is just absurd.
I don't pay fees to anyone for deposits or withdrawals.

Funny there is a whole thread of people at 100 days for a mere few thousand $$.

Money is certainly safer at an a rated book, than any other book. Ask the BetEd users who were rated around matchbook where there money is - vs the Bookmaker/Betmaker users who had the site taken down on the same day. MB goes down for days at a time for DDOS attarcks, while Betmaker/Bookmaker back online in mere hours with a brand new URL. Hmmm.

[Domer]

I find it incredibly hard to believe that they charge 8% + $50 for a deposit.

I opened my account with a transfer so I paid precisely 0...but if that is the case, why would anyone use betmaker?

[Hareeba!]

Funny there is a whole thread of people at 100 days for a mere few thousand $$.

Money is certainly safer at an a rated book, than any other book. Ask the BetEd users who were rated around matchbook where there money is - vs the Bookmaker/Betmaker users who had the site taken down on the same day. MB goes down for days at a time for DDOS attarcks, while Betmaker/Bookmaker back online in mere hours with a brand new URL. Hmmm.

even Pinnacle suffered a DDOS attack no so long back
MB wasn't down for "days" - just more Todd lies
no book serving the US is safe enough for me thanks - that gives MB a massive head start - they are an A book by my rating

[QQPALLADIUM]

1 hour before

J W Tsonga -620 $732
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[unclebuzz1]

14 inches of snow so far with no end in sight!