Betmaker Review - In progress

[todd73nj]

I have been doing other things since Match and kinda fell off looking at BM, was considering loading the account a month ago. Is there any money to be made there or what??What u guys thing I dont really want to waist my time

Im having no problems making some $$ there at all. Masters trading has been great. Between 1st and 2nd round offered some nice value.

I wont complain at all. I can get plays down easier here than I did at MB.

I've been playing at Betmaker since the start of MLB; I like it so far, I can get down $ on what I want most of the time - I primarily make offers, just to get a better number. They seem to seed the lines a little later than MB did, a couple of the runlines on the early games today weren't seeded, but for the most part, it is very comparable to MB. Have done pretty well so far, up 30%, haven't requested any withdrawls or anything like that yet. The guys that have it made are the ones who can scalp between MB and BM, thats where the money can be made

Nice post. But I think you can find more scalps with BM and other sites. Especially with the line differences in basketball

[Legions36]

Im having no problems making some $$ there at all. Masters trading has been great. Between 1st and 2nd round offered some nice value.

I wont complain at all. I can get plays down easier here than I did at MB.



Nice post. But I think you can find more scalps with BM and other sites. Especially with the line differences in basketball

Thatnks todd i will deposit today.

[elgreco]

Its a trash platform. Dont get me wrong - I dont think Betmaker platfor is perfect. I liked MB a bit better. But the Tradesports platform was the best. It was a little less complex than Nadex. If someone built a platform like Tradesports had, and marketed it the right way that would be very successful. This link you guys put up had zero hope of in game use.

I still don't understand why no one has followed that platform. I even brought it up in Ganch's thread and no one responded. My post:

I have a quick question that hope someone is kind enough to answer for me.

How come most exchanges are built in a way where there are essentially two markets for the same game, one for each side? Whats wrong with the tradesports model where you either went long or short on an individual game contract that encompassed both sides?

I'm not a math guy, so maybe they are one and the same... but it seems like room is left opened for inefficiencies between the sides.

[the sink]

3.5% fee to deposit with moneybookers and then they will charge your withdrawal also...

[todd73nj]

Thatnks todd i will deposit today.

Your added liquidity is welcomed

I still don't understand why no one has followed that platform. I even brought it up in Ganch's thread and no one responded. My post:

I have a quick question that hope someone is kind enough to answer for me.

How come most exchanges are built in a way where there are essentially two markets for the same game, one for each side? Whats wrong with the tradesports model where you either went long or short on an individual game contract that encompassed both sides?

I'm not a math guy, so maybe they are one and the same... but it seems like room is left opened for inefficiencies between the sides.

I think they want to model like Betfair. But I am a supporter of the Tradesports model. I trade financial binaries on Nadex now. And I love the actual buying and selling of shares on the 1-100 basis.

How long did you play at Tradesports?

3.5% fee to deposit with moneybookers and then they will charge your withdrawal also...

Isnt it free on alot of other sites? Does Bookmaker also charge this 3.5%?

Not good.

[bookie]

How long did you play at Tradesports?



Isnt it free on alot of other sites? Does Bookmaker also charge this 3.5%?

Not good.

Gosh that is a big fee. Thanks for mentioning it because I hadn't heard. Anybody know what the out fee is? And what the cheapest forms of deposit & withdrawal are?

[the sink]

Gosh that is a big fee. Thanks for mentioning it because I hadn't heard. Anybody know what the out fee is? And what the cheapest forms of deposit & withdrawal are?

I only asked about moneybookers
he said 3.5% fee on deposit and he told me the fees on withdrawals, but I don't remember them 100%...
I remember he said $5000 withdrawal was $60 fee

Bookmaker does not charge deposit

[tofuman]

easiest way to get money in is book-to-book transfer! it's free!

[BigFish]

OK, guys -- I'm in. I'm convinced, after reading this thread, that this is the best thing going for US former Matchbook players. I got my wire already and it's just sitting my bank earning something like .00001% interest, so I see no downside here given how solid Bookmaker is. I look forward to some live betting (and other markets) with some the guys on this thread. Todd, I tried to PM you for some deposit advice that I don't think I can post here, but it says you cannot accept PMs. Hmmm...I guess I'm on my own. Thanks anyways for all that you've done on this thread, and please PM me if you gain the ability to PM in the near future.

Thanks to all who have kept this thread going, and deposited, in order to get improve liquidity. I encourage other former Matchbook players to do the same and deposit. This thread has things moving in the right direction at Betmaker. Let's keep that going!

[bookie]

Good luck BigFish...Keep us posted on how smooth your deposit goes, how you like the interface, and how you find the markets. I'm thinking about a deposit there myself.

[ArunSh]

Interface etc. isn't great, but depositing was easy enough, and the lines here are better than you can probably get anywhere else - given that, seems like a must have!

[yellowman]

Baseball was excellent there today...seems like it is picking up slowly but surely

[RealSlimShady]

Baseball was excellent there today...seems like it is picking up slowly but surely

Yes, I agree.

[fedex11204]

I am seeing very little liquid there I don't know what you guys are talking about

[the sink]

I am seeing very little liquid there I don't know what you guys are talking about

[todd73nj]

I only asked about moneybookers
he said 3.5% fee on deposit and he told me the fees on withdrawals, but I don't remember them 100%...
I remember he said $5000 withdrawal was $60 fee

Bookmaker does not charge deposit

So why dont you check with Bookmaker and see if you deposit via Moneybookers - if they will require a rollover if you want to transfer to Betmaker?

OK, guys -- I'm in. I'm convinced, after reading this thread, that this is the best thing going for US former Matchbook players. I got my wire already and it's just sitting my bank earning something like .00001% interest, so I see no downside here given how solid Bookmaker is. I look forward to some live betting (and other markets) with some the guys on this thread. Todd, I tried to PM you for some deposit advice that I don't think I can post here, but it says you cannot accept PMs. Hmmm...I guess I'm on my own. Thanks anyways for all that you've done on this thread, and please PM me if you gain the ability to PM in the near future.

Thanks to all who have kept this thread going, and deposited, in order to get improve liquidity. I encourage other former Matchbook players to do the same and deposit. This thread has things moving in the right direction at Betmaker. Let's keep that going!

Email me! tjg8633@hotmail.com
I check it daily and hopefully can give you whatever info you need.

Interface etc. isn't great, but depositing was easy enough, and the lines here are better than you can probably get anywhere else - given that, seems like a must have!

If you compare them to Matchbook - they are better in most situations

I am seeing very little liquid there I don't know what you guys are talking about

Well you must be a bigger player than me then. I can easily get down what I need on basically any game. Once again - if you are looking at NBA/NHL games this weekend - keep in mind 90% of them are meaningless!

[fedex11204]

I wager about at minimum $1000 a game so i see nothing close to that over there

[relaaxx]

must be nice for BETMAKER not to have to answer any questions themselves but at the same time have every question here on this thread get answered. every problem anyone has with the site dealt with a positive spin, all without having to say a word themselves. without saying anything - there is nothing to hold them to. can't wait for the next exchange to show up and it will - BETMAKER'S days are numbered. they are not smart enough to cease this oppurtunity. that much is very clear.

nothing at BETMAKER or this thread has changed in a week.

[elgreco]

How long did you play at Tradesports?

I played for a few years, starting before the intrade split. I loved the concept... I was able to apply all my studying of financial markets into something I truly did understand, sports. I didn't have a lot of money in there, but I really enjoyed it. I made my biggest score going long on the Lakers the day they got gasol, and then dumping my position as soon as they made the finals.

The format of these other exchanges just doesn't feel as natural to me as the tradesports platform did.

[todd73nj]

I wager about at minimum $1000 a game so i see nothing close to that over there

Im not really sure what you are looking at then? Because on 75% or more the the MBL MLs, I see blocks of $3000 or over. It might not be at the best price - but thats what you do if you want a better price - front what is listed. On Totals Im seeing about the same.

Even looking at NBA now - and see even bigger amounts available on any game that has some seeding implication. The other games have a few hundred bucks - but if you are such a big player - I doubt youd play games like that.

What is it that you are betting that you dont see this?

Ive put up screen shots a few times showing how Betmaker is greater or equal to what MB has offered for listed sports - but no one else provides screen shots for when they claim there is nothing available. And please, if you do.. dont provide the ONE game that might have limited markets.. have to look at it as a whole.

I played for a few years, starting before the intrade split. I loved the concept... I was able to apply all my studying of financial markets into something I truly did understand, sports. I didn't have a lot of money in there, but I really enjoyed it. I made my biggest score going long on the Lakers the day they got gasol, and then dumping my position as soon as they made the finals.

The format of these other exchanges just doesn't feel as natural to me as the tradesports platform did.

You are completely correct about the feel of all of these other exchanges. Its totally different. They arent designed for "trading" - but more of just trying to get a slightly better price.

Do you still trade financials? Because Nadex.com is awesome. Even a better platform than Tradesports had imo. If anyone has programming ability, that would be the platform to model a sports site after.

Drop me an email sometime at tjg8633@hotmail.com - Wouldnt hurt to have the contact info for some old TS players.

[ktorp18]

I am going to be switching to this site soon. Talked to the live chat today and look forward to getting more action going on at this site. Baseball and NBA is basically all I need and there is plenty of action going on there already.

[todd73nj]

I am going to be switching to this site soon. Talked to the live chat today and look forward to getting more action going on at this site. Baseball and NBA is basically all I need and there is plenty of action going on there already.

Well the last few nights in the NBA had many games that didnt have much in liquidity. But I guess there were 12 teams who had no seeding or playoff spots to play for. But Im sure the playoffs will be solid!

Baseball has been good so far.. not great.. but good.

The more people who think like you Ktorp, the more liquidity for the all of us.

[ktorp18]

Well the last few nights in the NBA had many games that didnt have much in liquidity. But I guess there were 12 teams who had no seeding or playoff spots to play for. But Im sure the playoffs will be solid!

Baseball has been good so far.. not great.. but good.

The more people who think like you Ktorp, the more liquidity for the all of us.

Yeah the liquidity is actually quite strange. There's $30,000 on some baseball games today and then less than a few hundred on others.

[relaaxx]

Yeah the liquidity is actually quite strange. There's $30,000 on some baseball games today and then less than a few hundred on others.

right now i do not see $30000 anywhere on anything. i see 1 baseball game at $3000. 1 other close to that. then a few bucks here and there. do not see $1 on any nba. todd. was wondering if you still have the e-ck option for depositing.

[ktorp18]

right now i do not see $30000 anywhere on anything. i see 1 baseball game at $3000. 1 other close to that. then a few bucks here and there. do not see $1 on any nba. todd. was wondering if you still have the e-ck option for depositing.

There's $26,000 on the Rays/Red Sox game. Thought I saw $30,000 on one before, must have been mistaken. Maybe I was adding up the matched and unmatched on Rays/Red Sox. If you don't see any money on NBA you must be looking at the wrong website.

Here's a pic of what I see: http://img577.imageshack.us/i/betmakernba.jpg

[Igetp2s]

It's not just the liquidity that's important, it's the spread. You could have $20 million of available offers, but if it's 20 cent lines, what good does it do? How much of the liquidity is at extremely tight spreads?

[patswin]

Just signed up and funded yesterday at betmaker
will see how it goes

[tofuman]

decent liquidity this morning on rockies vs mets, 2 cent line

[todd73nj]

right now i do not see $30000 anywhere on anything. i see 1 baseball game at $3000. 1 other close to that. then a few bucks here and there. do not see $1 on any nba. todd. was wondering if you still have the e-ck option for depositing.

There's $26,000 on the Rays/Red Sox game. Thought I saw $30,000 on one before, must have been mistaken. Maybe I was adding up the matched and unmatched on Rays/Red Sox. If you don't see any money on NBA you must be looking at the wrong website.

The Sox game had over 30k at one point. Baseball is better today that the few previous days. Less to dilute it

And instant deposit is available to established accounts from my understanding. I have it available on my deposit screen

It's not just the liquidity that's important, it's the spread. You could have $20 million of available offers, but if it's 20 cent lines, what good does it do? How much of the liquidity is at extremely tight spreads?

Again, spread has been equal to or better than MB in at least 75% of situations. I posted a bunch of days of screen shots.

Just signed up and funded yesterday at betmaker
will see how it goes

Good luck. Need more people giving it a chance and everything will continue to get better on the price and liquidity front.

[relaaxx]

todd,i was told by kathy who runs depoits and withdrawlals, noone has instant deposit right now. was also told if i used ** once. i would get instant deposit also. but right now there are processor problems. so noone has instant deposit. well which is it. can anyone else tell me if they have the instant deposit availible to them or maybe had it and now does not. and if there are processor problems how are withdrawlals going. any processor problems there.

[wrongturn]

Is today's MLB best so far? It looks great today.

Can SBR add BetMaker into SBR Odds list?

[Johnny 55]

We are finally starting to get somewhere with Betmaker, the MLB liquidity has improved to the point where we are getting 2 and 3 cent lines, I am going to wire them a large figure on Monday, hopefully this will continue to improve and then Ganchrow's exchange will get going and American consumers will have 2 exchanges to work with by mid-summer.

[todd73nj]

todd,i was told by kathy who runs depoits and withdrawlals, noone has instant deposit right now. was also told if i used ** once. i would get instant deposit also. but right now there are processor problems. so noone has instant deposit. well which is it. can anyone else tell me if they have the instant deposit availible to them or maybe had it and now does not. and if there are processor problems how are withdrawlals going. any processor problems there.

Its listed as available on my deposit screen. I havent deposited in 3 weeks or so because dont need to at the moment. Is it listed for you and not working? Bec maybe thats the case for me - bec I havent had to use it.

Is today's MLB best so far? It looks great today.

Can SBR add BetMaker into SBR Odds list?

It has been very solid today! Compare it to MB and its better in most situations with price and spread.

And Im not sure - who do we ask to get this added?

[relaaxx]

Its listed as available on my deposit screen. I havent deposited in 3 weeks or so because dont need to at the moment. Is it listed for you and not working? Bec maybe thats the case for me - bec I havent had to use it. It has been very solid today! Compare it to MB and its better in most situations with price and spread. And Im not sure - who do we ask to get this added?

not listed. wish i could get a straight answer from BETMAKER about this. anyone else have the choice of instant deposit still listed.

[tofuman]

keep up the liquidity boys!