SBRtv Interviews with Pinnacle Sportsbook: Episode 1 - Intro Q&A with a Senior Trader

[noober]

I would like to know what type of action they get on all sports, kind of like a breakdown from tennis, to golf, soccer, etc

Also have they ever thrown a player out or limited a player because of too much money won

I second that request

[sportsfrance]

What was the story with the "Pinny Blaster" controversy from a year or so ago? All of the NCAAB overnight totals were manipulated and bought back a huge profit, supposedly.

This happened. Story is that the kid is a nut job and a hacker. Basically tried to extort guys(krackman was one guy who was extorted). Books know who he is and I doubt anyone is going anywhere near this kid anymore. Certainly a lesson learned. But just goes to show that pinny is 100% on auto pilot at certain times. Maybe not anymore after this incident.

[Justin7]

It involved two accounts. One account bet all the totals to get prices on high moneylines, like bet over 143 until under 143 was at +350. This account lost a fortune, and was planning to stiff Pinny. The other account bet all the +350 moneylines on the totals. It was a slam dunk fraud/collusion case (based on what was posted in the forums; I was not involved in this case).

[sportsfrance]

It involved two accounts. One account bet all the totals to get prices on high moneylines, like bet over 143 until under 143 was at +350. This account lost a fortune, and was planning to stiff Pinny. The other account bet all the +350 moneylines on the totals. It was a slam dunk fraud/collusion case (based on what was posted in the forums; I was not involved in this case).

Yes. And it was done by this nut job kid from what I am told that has tried to extort many high profile pro's out in vegas and continues to taunt on other forums. A real sick kid mentally from what I have assessed.

[Cookie Monster]

Questions...
1.- What is the history of Pinny? Say, who started it, who are the owners, etc.
2.- How much is the total market size for each big sport? (NFL, NCAAF, NBA, NCAAB, MLB, NHL, Soccer). If you do not want to give money amounts, a relative size is OK (Say, NFL = 100, NCAAF = 20, etc.)

[sportsfrance]

Questions... 1.- What is the history of Pinny? Say, who started it, who are the owners, etc. 2.- How much is the total market size for each big sport? (NFL, NCAAF, NBA, NCAAB, MLB, NHL, Soccer). If you do not want to give money amounts, a relative size is OK (Say, NFL = 100, NCAAF = 20, etc.)

Your not going to get answers for #1 on a forum. You can google the story of the computer group and read a good story.

[BrianLaverty]

Amazing addition to SBR.... LOVE IT!

[username474]

Q: How many of your coustmers bet max limits in MLB ?
Q: How many of your coustmers, that you would consider recreational bettors bet max limits?

[username474]

I'm just a much better reporter than 60 minutes could produce with BW. He would take the 5th on my line of questioning.

If you think your a better repoter then Lara Logan wait till the Q&A with BW sex tape comes out !! She even get his offshore acct. #'s

[jairocon]

Wow this is interesting - can't believe I missed it. Awesome job sbr!

[OMGRandyJackson]

Ive got 2 questions, tho maybe just a regular poster can answer

1. On a typical MLB game, what is the max limit? And if you are winning, will this max limit be lowered for your account?
2. Pinnacle offers 1 free withdrawal per month. Is there a limit on how much you can withdraw for free?

[evo34]

IMO, the interviewer did nothing but awkwardly repeat every little thing the trader said, which led to a cycle of needless repetition on both ends... Not a single legitimate follow-up question. Obvious ones would include: what are your target hold percentages? what kind of size/pattern might make you nervous you are unware of some news? what sources do you use for news/information? do you look at what the lines are doing at other books? do you accept any action from other books? Love the concept of the interview; just needs to be executed much better.

whats interesting is how many posters consider the interviews insightful when the guy basically said little more than common sense. Simple question would clear alot of debate, does pinny trade. Certainly their soccer moves suggest they do.

[Vaughany]

SBR posters,

If you have any questions or topics you'd like to have addressed in the next interview SBRtv will be doing with John T., post them in this thread!



Thanks!

SBRtv Staff

Do they have any intention of bringing out proposition bets for MMA like Sportbet/5dimes have? If not then why not?

Many thanks

[jairocon]

Here's a question you should ask: Why doesn't pinnacle invest into more servers? It's annoying that during big time events - like Champions League today - the servers are simply unreachable. Buy some extra servers please! Or anticipate. Not to mention, that the servers crap out minutes before start of Premier League games regularly every week.

[Nicky Santoro]

John T just confirmed in the 1st video what i'd been telling you losers now for 3 yrs over 1,342 times, and none of you ever agreed with me.. He just said that gambling is all mathematics and has nothing to do with knowing sports.. he even said that the more you know about sports, the less successful you are. i swear to god, i cant' name you boys one NCAAB or NCAAF player and they are my 2 best sports..

You boys should listen to your ole pal Nicky Santoro more often. You might learn something. I dont come in here to hear myself talk. i come here to help you losers and you don't want to listen..

BOYS, STOP HANDICAPPING GAMES. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR FUKKIN TIME.. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME .. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SPREAD THERE..

[Sportsguy_USA]

How real-time are their XML feeds on betting odds for sites who integrate their XML feeds?

[Salmon Steak]

start taking Americans pinnacle

[Mahowny82]

Cool interview but could dig a little further on some topics.

If John decided to quit his job and started sportsbetting what kind of money management system would he use?

Is it possible to win at sportsbetting and how???

Last question is for all reading this, just pm the answer...

[brad89]

Is it possible to win at sportsbetting and how???

[The Resurrection]

Has episode 2 come out yet or is it on its way?

[Hareeba!]

John T just confirmed in the 1st video what i'd been telling you losers now for 3 yrs over 1,342 times, and none of you ever agreed with me.. He just said that gambling is all mathematics and has nothing to do with knowing sports.. he even said that the more you know about sports, the less successful you are. i swear to god, i cant' name you boys one NCAAB or NCAAF player and they are my 2 best sports..

You boys should listen to your ole pal Nicky Santoro more often. You might learn something. I dont come in here to hear myself talk. i come here to help you losers and you don't want to listen..

BOYS, STOP HANDICAPPING GAMES. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR FUKKIN TIME.. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME .. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SPREAD THERE..

I certainly agree with the main thrust of what you say Nicky but your conclusion is dead-set wrong.

There is more than one way to win at this game. Yours obviously suits you but it's not for everyone.

I play very differently and whist basic arithmetic is most certainly a big part of determining value and staking in my betting it isn't everything. It isn't necessary to predict the outcome of every game. You just need to be reasonably accurate in determining the likelihood of each outcome.

[Monte]

What Nicky says is true for most mature markets, but even Pinny has some weak opening lines sometimes.
It is possible to beat these openers more often than not if you are good with a certain sport, that is why the limits are lower here for early lines obviously.

[Dark Horse]

Ask them if they, or anybody related to Pinnacle, bought Matchbook.

[SBRPicks]

Has episode 2 come out yet or is it on its way?

The Resurrection,

Thanks for your interest. The follow-up call was done last week, and it will be up on SBR this week, so look for it stickied in the Sportsbooks & The Industry forum.

Thanks,

SBRtv Staff

[Dank_Fire]

The Resurrection,

Thanks for your interest. The follow-up call was done last week, and it will be up on SBR this week, so look for it stickied in the Sportsbooks & The Industry forum.

Thanks,

SBRtv Staff

[The Resurrection]

The Resurrection,

Thanks for your interest. The follow-up call was done last week, and it will be up on SBR this week, so look for it stickied in the Sportsbooks & The Industry forum.

Thanks,

SBRtv Staff

Great news! Can't wait!

Thanks

[bookie]

The Resurrection,

Thanks for your interest. The follow-up call was done last week, and it will be up on SBR this week, so look for it stickied in the Sportsbooks & The Industry forum.

Thanks,

SBRtv Staff

Excellent. Looking forward to it.

[CanuckG]

A lot of what the trader said in the video seems like BS to me but interesting none the less.

[Dark Horse]

A lot of what the trader said in the video seems like BS to me but interesting none the less.

Yeah. This is all a game, so you have to wonder how much of their hand they're really going to show. We know Pinnacle takes positions, but the 'trader' acted like it was mostly about pennies on the dollar. Hope part 2 will be juicier.

[BeatingBaseball]

If even half the follow-up questions suggested here were posed, the second call should be a lot more interesting than the first.

[dazed99]

been waiting for this for a long time thanx sbr

[jgilmartin]

John T just confirmed in the 1st video what i'd been telling you losers now for 3 yrs over 1,342 times, and none of you ever agreed with me.. He just said that gambling is all mathematics and has nothing to do with knowing sports.. he even said that the more you know about sports, the less successful you are. i swear to god, i cant' name you boys one NCAAB or NCAAF player and they are my 2 best sports..

You boys should listen to your ole pal Nicky Santoro more often. You might learn something. I dont come in here to hear myself talk. i come here to help you losers and you don't want to listen..

BOYS, STOP HANDICAPPING GAMES. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR FUKKIN TIME.. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME .. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SPREAD THERE..

I agree with the gist of your post; I hardly ever watch any of the leagues I bet on (hell, a lot of them I couldn't watch if I wanted to). My plays are 100% mathematics, yet I consider myself a handicapper. How do you define 'handicapping'? Anything other than steam/shaded lines/arbs/BS teasers, etc.?

[louis]

The most interesting thing he said was that when the sharps are on one side, and the public is on the other side, they will sometimes "join the sharps" rather than move the line.

[JR007]

i listen...and read your posts very carefully

[eberetta1]

John T just confirmed in the 1st video what i'd been telling you losers now for 3 yrs over 1,342 times, and none of you ever agreed with me.. He just said that gambling is all mathematics and has nothing to do with knowing sports.. he even said that the more you know about sports, the less successful you are. i swear to god, i cant' name you boys one NCAAB or NCAAF player and they are my 2 best sports..

You boys should listen to your ole pal Nicky Santoro more often. You might learn something. I dont come in here to hear myself talk. i come here to help you losers and you don't want to listen..

BOYS, STOP HANDICAPPING GAMES. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR FUKKIN TIME.. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREDICT THE OUTCOME OF ANY GAME .. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A SPREAD THERE..

You do not have to convince me. He reiterated that in the 4th video also. I agree, no company would want to go out of business when there is easy money to be made just providing a market. But then there are people who still do not believe Obama was born in Hawaii. They might pick a side on maybe 10 percent of their book at most(who gives a rats *ss), but the other 90 percent is pure fixed income.