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  • SBR Lou
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-02-07
    • 37863

    #1
    VIP Sports, Matchbook no longer accepting players from Washington State
    VIP Sports, Matchbook no longer accepting players from Washington State

    Washington State residents are no longer able to ante up at VIP Sports (SBR rating B+), or Matchbook (SBR rating B-). In 2006, the United States SAFE Port Act was enacted by Congress and signed into law by President Bush. The act contained a last minute passage regarding internet gambling, labeled the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA). The UIGEA makes it illegal for US banks to process transactions to and from known gambling operators. The act does not state that it is unlawful for citizens to wager online and does not list penalties for doing so.

    Placing a sports bet does not violate federal law. States can pass their own laws against placing bets. Many states have archaic criminal laws against gambling, even the act of running a raked poker game amongst friends would be classified as illegal. Washington State is the only state with a Class C felony provision for wagering online. | Full report
  • smitch124
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-19-08
    • 12566

    #2
    I blame Fischnasty for this
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    • sharpcat
      Restricted User
      • 12-19-09
      • 4516

      #3
      BetOnline also noted on their site that they are not taking players in Washington State any longer the other day but I can not find that on their site anymore, maybe they changed their mind.
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      • jkilla990
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-28-10
        • 713

        #4
        Sounds to me that this only affects bank transactions, so why cant residents of WA reload with ** or **?
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        • ttwarrior1
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 06-23-09
          • 28469

          #5
          means they can't gamble there period
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          • Stacocakes
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-10-08
            • 7126

            #6
            Unbelievable how stuff like this goes on.If someone wants to bet,what is the big deal?
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            • bradthebloke
              SBR MVP
              • 07-26-09
              • 3175

              #7
              sleepless in seattle
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              • LVHerbie
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-15-05
                • 6344

                #8
                Interesting that both fulltilt and pokerstars have already made this decision but first I heard of sportsbook making the move...
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                • magnavox
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-14-05
                  • 575

                  #9
                  Intertops had a similar rule regarding certain states way before UIGEA.
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                  • jackkkk2009
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-13-09
                    • 1183

                    #10
                    The only way for WA residents to bet online is to move to a near state.
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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #11
                      The UIGEA has nothing to do with this Lou, try learning something about the industry you work in.
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                      • FreeFall
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-20-08
                        • 3365

                        #12
                        Originally posted by durito
                        The UIGEA has nothing to do with this Lou, try learning something about the industry you work in.
                        This is what confused me as well when I read it over and over. I read the title and then the paragraph and neither of them seem to be linked. Isn't the first time this place has misinformed the public and surely won't be the last.
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                        • Kaabee
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-21-06
                          • 2482

                          #13
                          you guys need to click on the full report link in the op. the uigea part is just the intro.
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                          • capitalist pig
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-25-07
                            • 4998

                            #14
                            I always thought Washington State was a left/liberal leaning state, guess Ive been thinking wrong.

                            later
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                            • gafl
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-07-06
                              • 656

                              #15
                              Let's hope other states don't follow Washington State's lead. The part about Washington State officials having banks debit 8M from it's citizens checking accounts due to offshore gambling, is really going too far. Even the Feds don't do that.
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                              • SBR Lou
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 37863

                                #16
                                Originally posted by durito
                                The UIGEA has nothing to do with this Lou, try learning something about the industry you work in.
                                Originally posted by Kaabee
                                you guys need to click on the full report link in the op. the uigea part is just the intro.
                                Thanks Kaabee. A guy like durito would rather pre-fire, though.
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                                • wisky
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-04-09
                                  • 458

                                  #17
                                  Wonder if this would cause a gambler to move out of the state.
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                                  • GettingScrilla
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 10-29-10
                                    • 314

                                    #18
                                    Washington...why would anyone live in that wet ass depressing place?
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                                    • Metalhead
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-14-09
                                      • 719

                                      #19
                                      Locals must be happy.
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                                      • dbnmln
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 10-30-07
                                        • 804

                                        #20
                                        if you live on the border, on the washington side, do you drive over the line and stop off for a coffee at starbucks and place a bet?
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                                        • Mr. Jones
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 09-02-05
                                          • 942

                                          #21
                                          Sportsinteraction does not accept players from Kentucky.
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                                          • durito
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 07-03-06
                                            • 13173

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Lou
                                            Thanks Kaabee. A guy like durito would rather pre-fire, though.
                                            I read it.
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                                            • mtneer1212
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-22-08
                                              • 4993

                                              #23
                                              Everyone is abandoning Washington. The Indian casinos and Card Rooms must have some heavy hitting lobbyists there........
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                                              • Harmy G
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 02-10-10
                                                • 210

                                                #24
                                                Kentucky I am not surprised with. Bunch of idiots down there. But Washington, there are some smart people who live up there. The deal with Washington is that they got so much pressure from the Native American casinos. They even appealed the ruling and it still stood. Sets a really bad precedent imo.
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                                                • greg66
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-04-06
                                                  • 151

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by capitalist pig
                                                  I always thought Washington State was a left/liberal leaning state, guess Ive been thinking wrong.

                                                  later
                                                  Actually the left is no better than the right. On the right you have the bible thumpers that want to ban gambling on moral grounds. On the left you have the liberals who want to legislate everything and will not hesitate to legislate in order to protect their state sponsored gambling interests. Add in big dollar contributions from the lotteries, local casinos, not to mention the under the table influences from organized local bookmakers and you get the picture.
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                                                  • WileOut
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-04-07
                                                    • 3844

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Harmy G
                                                    Kentucky I am not surprised with. Bunch of idiots down there. But Washington, there are some smart people who live up there. The deal with Washington is that they got so much pressure from the Native American casinos. They even appealed the ruling and it still stood. Sets a really bad precedent imo.
                                                    You have to be a total retard to make a comment like this. Washington people are smart, Kentucky people are not? You have no proof of this and no reason to even think it unless you have low IQ yourself.

                                                    As for the felony thing, it wouldn't surprise me if other states follow the lead sooner or later.

                                                    gregg66 you couldn't be more wrong. People who go to church could care less about gambling. Its not a sin, why would Christians care about it? I'm a Christian and have attended about 7 churches in my lifetime and know hundreds of Christians. Never once in my life has gambling been brought up by another Christian or a pastor unless it was about who I am on this weekend or other gambling talk. Christians gamble too. Opening a business is a gamble. But I know many people who attend church regularly and still bet on sports. And are open about it.

                                                    The misconceptions about Christians and what they think about is so off by non Christians.
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                                                    • bookie
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 2112

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by WileOut

                                                      The misconceptions about Christians and what they think about is so off by non Christians.
                                                      Groups like Focus on the Family both claim to speak for millions of Christians and spout this stuff about how sports betting ruins families. Maybe that's where Harmy was coming from.

                                                      I know gambling-affirmative Christians too, hell Catholics have all but made it a part of their ritual, but I don't see how you can pretend to not understand why people see Christians as anti-gambling when anti-gambling rhetoric has been an evangelical staple for a long time.
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                                                      • BookTaker
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 05-07-09
                                                        • 37

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by greg66
                                                        On the left you have the liberals who want to legislate everything and will not hesitate to legislate in order to protect their state sponsored gambling interests. Add in big dollar contributions from the lotteries, local casinos, not to mention the under the table influences from organized local bookmakers and you get the picture.
                                                        Yup

                                                        Washington state has local casinos all over the place. That could be a reason why. There is even a Hooters that is a casino there.

                                                        And all the liquor stores are owned by the state.
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                                                        • Yi
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 03-19-09
                                                          • 646

                                                          #29
                                                          I can understand Poker sites pulling out because they want to stay in good grace with the U.S. government so that in the future when online poker is legalize they can have access to the market.

                                                          However, what potential benefits does Matchbook and VIP have for pulling out?
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                                                          • Kaabee
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-21-06
                                                            • 2482

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Yi
                                                            I can understand Poker sites pulling out because they want to stay in good grace with the U.S. government so that in the future when online poker is legalize they can have access to the market. However, what potential benefits does Matchbook and VIP have for pulling out?
                                                            they are afraid of fund seizures from payment processor accounts
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                                                            • masontnk
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-03-10
                                                              • 200

                                                              #31
                                                              Hey all banks in wa dont allow onine gaming transactions with there credit or debit cards
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                                                              • DwightShrute
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-17-09
                                                                • 103738

                                                                #32
                                                                unreal. Seeing how the government, state or federal, makes these laws it amazes me that people would like it to be run by the government.
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                                                                • tylerguy02
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-29-09
                                                                  • 1987

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I live in WA and I'm pretty sure my request for payout just got put back into my account at 5dimes and Bodog sent me an email that said they wouldn't send checks to WA state anymore. The government here is BS. If they can't get their hands on the tax dollars, then it is made illegal.
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                                                                  • vitalogist
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-11-08
                                                                    • 2820

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Add DSI to the list now too. Who will take our action??? I gave up on poker, but I need a sportsbook now....
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                                                                    • Kaabee
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-21-06
                                                                      • 2482

                                                                      #35
                                                                      dsi and bookmaker are both out. 5 dimes is in for now.
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