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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    **/** problems
    I'm just curious how you avoid getting banned by either. What triggers them to review and/or kick you out?
  • jackkkk2009
    SBR MVP
    • 07-13-09
    • 1183

    #2
    Have never heard anyone got banned from any of them since they are just do person to person transfer with cash.
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    • sharpcat
      Restricted User
      • 12-19-09
      • 4516

      #3
      My best guess is it is the guys sending $50 at a time 5 times a week or more who run into problems.

      Keep your transactions under $2,501 and don't send more than 2-3 times a week and you shouldn't have any problems.
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      • Keith Richard
        SBR MVP
        • 07-06-06
        • 1576

        #4
        I have never had a problem so far. I always keep deposits under a 1000 and I rarely send more than twice a month.Maybe I'm just lucky so far?
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        • THE_LOCKSMITH
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-25-08
          • 7237

          #5
          i'm confused about what are you supposed to say when receiving money from **/**. If asked where the money comes from are you not supposed to say a Sportsbook or gambling site?
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          • Mikail
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-19-09
            • 21689

            #6
            Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
            i'm confused about what are you supposed to say when receiving money from **/**. If asked where the money comes from are you not supposed to say a Sportsbook or gambling site?
            Yes always tell them you are receiving funds from offshore gambling.
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            • THE_LOCKSMITH
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-08
              • 7237

              #7
              Originally posted by Mikail
              Yes always tell them you are receiving funds from offshore gambling.
              I'm in Canada where its not as stict on sports betting, but thanks for the reply dick
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              • Mikail
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-19-09
                • 21689

                #8
                Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                I'm in Canada where its not as stict on sports betting, but thanks for the reply dick
                Dumb question. What did you expect? "Dick"
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                • scott235
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 10-12-09
                  • 465

                  #9
                  I think J7 might have been more interested in the receive side... my thought is don't use it more than once a month either way, but i'd like to get an update on this too
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                  • CaptainHindsight
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 01-04-11
                    • 20

                    #10
                    I'm interested in the hold ups with this process too. What is the basic strategy when it comes to using them to fund offshore?
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                    • THE_LOCKSMITH
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-25-08
                      • 7237

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mikail
                      Dumb question. What did you expect? "Dick"
                      Whats dumb is your belief in an imaginary god. Mine was a legitimate question for people who are unfamiliar with **/** process
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                      • Mikail
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-19-09
                        • 21689

                        #12
                        Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
                        Whats dumb is your belief in an imaginary god. Mine was a legitimate question for people who are unfamiliar with **/** process
                        Here we go again with the kufr comments. The fact that you asked a dumb question has nothing to do with whether I believe in God or not. Get real. Leave the personal attacks because you don't know me. You can believe that!
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                        • Albert Pujols
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-01-10
                          • 1670

                          #13
                          I've heard to wait 7 days between transactions and you're good.
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                          • notsosharp
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-25-10
                            • 799

                            #14
                            Using your card online to usewestern union or money gram or xoom not a good idea. You are better off going into the store and using those options. They wont process most transactions online.
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                            • CollegePro
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-23-09
                              • 4006

                              #15
                              i got banned from **.... I don't know if what ** told me was true or not.. but at the time when I sent the fund to Philippines, they said there was some sort of fraud going on at the time in Philippines.... so they asked me whole bunch of questions like if I knew the person who I was sending money to....I answered all of them without any suspicious and they still didn't feel comfortable sending money for me and asked me to submit business license... at that point, I was like **** it.. just give me my money back....what's funny is that I am only banned to send money to person.. when I made a payment to company, it goes through fine...and of course, I can not receive money.
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                              • capitalist pig
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-25-07
                                • 4998

                                #16
                                I was put on the ** blacklist a few years ago, no one has ever told me why. At most I used them 4-5 times in a 3 year period.I have not tried **, guessing that if your on ones list your probably on both,JMO.

                                later
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                                • jagaf22
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-22-08
                                  • 2932

                                  #17
                                  I've used ** for years. Small amounts, large amounts, sometimes more frequently than others. Never ran into any problems. I have sent money to multiple books in Nicaragua for example and then had to send it to Costa Rica due to too many transactions in a short amount of time.
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                                  • BranchDavidian
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-29-10
                                    • 1014

                                    #18
                                    I have also made many deposits with both ** and ** with no problems, but wonder what they must think at the counter when they see all these different names and countries that shows up on their computer. Several times the clerk has had to ask me if this is a new name rather than scroll down the list. They gotta know or be able to figure out what is going on rather easily. After reading about all the people that got banned, I finally started to get a friend to do some of these transactions for me. Fortunately, I find that many books are finding other methods --- instant deposit checks seem to be coming back.
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                                    • jpowderly
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 06-30-06
                                      • 872

                                      #19
                                      I having problems with money gram sending it to the Philippines. I would send it out at least two weeks apart. The name they give you is computer generated . It has something to do with the name and location where you send the money to.
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                                      • RickySteve
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-31-06
                                        • 3415

                                        #20
                                        Send $800 and use a fake identity. Pray nothing goes wrong. EZ game.
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                                        • Igetp2s
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-21-07
                                          • 1046

                                          #21
                                          Don't do too many in a short period and you should be fine.
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                                          • brettley
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 11-15-10
                                            • 148

                                            #22
                                            I tried to get set up on another book today. Guy in chat tells me ** is the only way to go since wager is roughly 1k. I say thank you and get set up... send money to peru.

                                            I get chat going again and he says debit card vs. Credit card doesn't matter... since I used a card, it needs to go elsewhere... guy wants me to call and switch transfer names and change location from peru to phillipines. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? that isn't shady or anything.... uhhh yeah, I need to change transfer to other side of world. Lol. I just cancelled the transaction.

                                            I guess I can understand confusion, but asking me to change it from woman in peru to a man in phillipines... come on.
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                                            • LVHerbie
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-15-05
                                              • 6344

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by capitalist pig
                                              I was put on the ** blacklist a few years ago, no one has ever told me why. At most I used them 4-5 times in a 3 year period.I have not tried **, guessing that if your on ones list your probably on both,JMO.

                                              later
                                              I doubt you are banned at both... Everything I read make it sound like this is a internal company decision and you probably can still use ** if you want...
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                                              • king
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-15-09
                                                • 506

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by CollegePro
                                                i got banned from **.... I don't know if what ** told me was true or not.. but at the time when I sent the fund to Philippines, they said there was some sort of fraud going on at the time in Philippines.... so they asked me whole bunch of questions like if I knew the person who I was sending money to....I answered all of them without any suspicious and they still didn't feel comfortable sending money for me and asked me to submit business license... at that point, I was like **** it.. just give me my money back....what's funny is that I am only banned to send money to person.. when I made a payment to company, it goes through fine...and of course, I can not receive money.

                                                I had a similar thing happen to me some not even for gambling. Some are to send to families. They try to make you back off by sending the funds. They try to scare you saying that the person is scamming you and you should contact the ic3.
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                                                • CollegePro
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-23-09
                                                  • 4006

                                                  #25
                                                  i guess they just randomly choose a person to check on them to make sure the sender is not doing anything illegal..
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                                                  • BrianLaverty
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-02-07
                                                    • 2183

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by LVHerbie
                                                    I doubt you are banned at both... Everything I read make it sound like this is a internal company decision and you probably can still use ** if you want...
                                                    Seriously... they are competitors. Being banned from one doesn't mean you are banned from another. If you aren't allowed at one grocery store, you think the other ones won't let you?

                                                    And FWIW, I dont recall anyone ever being banned from **.... Just **.
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                                                    • ronaldo922
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 12-06-09
                                                      • 292

                                                      #27
                                                      good advice
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                                                      • todd73nj
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-09-08
                                                        • 824

                                                        #28
                                                        I havent used ** or ** to fund or get paid in quite some time - but isnt there a level where you dont even need to provide ID?
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                                                        • bracerman
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 01-07-11
                                                          • 469

                                                          #29
                                                          For awhile I was receiving weekly **'s from a book, always a different sender, never had any problems.
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                                                          • CaptainHindsight
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 01-04-11
                                                            • 20

                                                            #30
                                                            Do you have to provide a social security number or just show Id with **?
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                                                            • easywinner
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-31-10
                                                              • 336

                                                              #31
                                                              They hassle a guy for sending a couple of hundred bucks but the high level bankers, politicians and ceos have offshore bank accounts, lol, corrupt system. I've never heard of having to show a social just id and fwiw I've never heard of anyone being banned from ** either just **, maybe that is why the ** has lower limits or something.
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                                                              • ericmangin
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 12-06-08
                                                                • 179

                                                                #32
                                                                keep payouts under $1,000 from ** and/or ** no more than once a week and u will never have an issue... sometimes it's shady when they stare at u and make copies of your license but it doesn't mean anything, don't get paranoid, it's just procedure... try to find a 24 hour major check cashing place where they get to know u and it will become common place... they can't ask u where the money is coming from it's person to person, just say a friend, these are offshore investments anyway... could be real estate, electronics, could be anything...
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                                                                • zam77
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-03-10
                                                                  • 3586

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I got banned form ** about 2 months ago... they asked me if I new the person I was sending to and I told them it was a business transaction for someone who was developing website software for me (was actually sending to betjam). They didn't buy it and asked me a bunch more bs questions. Finally she said my account will no longer be valid after today due to nonverifiable recipient info. WTF was I gonna say... no you can't. So I took it in the ass and that was it. So for anyone who is using **, beware, they are banning at least some of us.
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                                                                  • todd73nj
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-09-08
                                                                    • 824

                                                                    #34
                                                                    And how much money were you sending? Ive never heard of anything like that before.
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                                                                    • BranchDavidian
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-29-10
                                                                      • 1014

                                                                      #35
                                                                      The tellers that work for ** seem to have too much discretion. Twice, I have had a clerk try to "protect" me from getting ripped off. They started asking questions because they thought that I might possibly be the victim of an internet scam. One of them actually said that she almost decided to not do the transaction, because of her concern that I MIGHT be getting scammed! From then on, I had to either go to a different store ( which is not as convenient ) or try to do transactions when that particular clerk was not there. It would seem that such low level functionaries would not have that much authority. Several clerks turning away business on their whims might damage the bottom line for the company!
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