Book to Book transfers

[John Dough]

...however they do transfer to cascade and wwts... wtf?

CS - Juan: jazz, matchbook, abc island, 5dimes, bet phoenix, wsex, pinnacle, greek, hollywood, grande, del mar
CS - Juan: catalina, cascade
CS - Juan: carib
CS - Juan: bet jamaica
CS - Juan: wwts

No way is this list accurate.

Carib has repeatedly told me they don't accept any interbook transfers, I doubt they do business with Cascade (lol), Hollywood was probably on there from before they became a Jazette book, BetPhoenix just told me they don't accept any B2B transfers, etc.

Any chance a mod could get a "real" list from Bookmaker since apparently when the avg. person asks on live chat they get some lousy info? Thanks.

[bigboydan]

this post needs to be updated, bookmaker support just told me that they do not transfer to Las Palmas or wagerweb

Updated my original context in my post. Thanks for the info sir.

[bigboydan]

SBR poster St.Aquinas reports that Betsportsweb offers Book-2-Book transfers with Jazzsports

[durito]

...however they do transfer to cascade and wwts... wtf?

CS - Juan: jazz, matchbook, abc island, 5dimes, bet phoenix, wsex, pinnacle, greek, hollywood, grande, del mar
CS - Juan: catalina, cascade
CS - Juan: carib
CS - Juan: bet jamaica
CS - Juan: wwts

what is this list from 2004?

[Scorpion]

SBR poster St.Aquinas reports that Betsportsweb offers Book-2-Book transfers with Jazzsports

wow, almost wanted to signup there

11/6/2008 08:52 PM

SBR Justin reports: betsuperior (SBR rating D+) player balance confiscation
On April 10th, an employee of betsuperior enticed a large bettor he knew from working at a previous sportsbook, with a credit line of $5000. The player lost this in the casino, and paid off his debt to the house. Over the following two weeks, the player made additional deposits totaling $8500. He made some sports wagers but most of his action was in the betsuperior casino. During that time, the player and the betsuperior account representative corresponded numerous times about the casino. The player's limits were raised to $500 per hand, and the rules were adjusted to reduce the house edge to be more comparable to that of blackjack on the Las Vegas Strip. The player gave Superior high volume play, some nights putting over $1 million in action. During that period, the sportsbook gave him multiple bonuses totaling approximately $18,000. One of these bonuses was a $5,000 credit that was applied with no deposit requirements. At the end of the week two the player went on a significant winning streak bringing his balance up to $120,000. The sportsbook then confiscated the balance. betsuperior management claimed that the sportsbook employee, who was managing the account and authorized to give bonuses, should not have applied these bonuses and that the player's balance would be reduced to zero as a result. betsuperior also claimed that the player and employee were in cahoots, and cheated at Blackjack by modifying the software. No proof of this claim was offered, despite SBR's offer to analyze the player hand history. betsuperior has since been rebranded as BetSportsWeb (SBR rating D+).

[trixtrix]

what is this list from 2004?

this list/conversation took place on 12/19/2008

[durito]

this list/conversation took place on 12/19/2008

lol bookmaker customer service is always entertaining at least

[Frank]

Customer service at some of these books a lot of times have old lists.

When I made that list in March last year, I took out the books they told me that were no longer open (WWTS, etc).

I also took out all the Cascade type stiff books.

I can assure you that the list was 100% current 10 months ago.

A lot changes in 10 months in this industry.

[Bluehorseshoe]

It is beyond stupid that I have to pull money out of Skybook ** in order to send it right back to the same country **. (5Dimes)

Why don't they just offer ** to other books?? It's the same amount of work and less fees.

[Fizzz]

Here is a detailed list for transfers with the CRIS family

We transfer to:
5 Dimes
Bet Jamaica
Betehorse
Cascade ***We do transfers to them, they do not transfer funds to us***
Catalina
First Fidelity
Grande
Hollywood
Instant Action
Jazz/ABC Islands
Matchbook ***Not for DSI***
Olympic/The Greek
Pinnacle ***Not for DSI*** (listed customers only)
Tradewins
Vegas Vic / BetVegas
WSEX ***Not for DSI***

[dark star]

These transfers are free right...just had to ask.

How much would it cost to transfer my Jazz account
to Bookmaker?

[Fizzz]

That can be asked to the customer service of each book man, CRIS's transfers have a $500 minimum with a $100 fee in most transfers

[trixtrix]

UPDATE: greek has just informed me, that they are currently freezing/STOPPING all transfers to 5 Dimes, what's going on??

[Thremp]

Here is a detailed list for transfers with the CRIS family

We transfer to:
5 Dimes
Bet Jamaica
Betehorse
Cascade ***We do transfers to them, they do not transfer funds to us***
Catalina
First Fidelity
Grande
Hollywood
Instant Action
Jazz/ABC Islands
Matchbook ***Not for DSI***
Olympic/The Greek
Pinnacle ***Not for DSI*** (listed customers only)
Tradewins
Vegas Vic / BetVegas
WSEX ***Not for DSI***

DSI will receive xfers from WSEX.

[Casi]

Bookmaker/DSI are the worst for b2b fees, something to be proud of.

[HedgeHog]

Incoming transfers to any of The Greek family of Books are actually the most expensive. The 4x rollover is worse than Cris' $100 fee IMO.

[durito]

Cascade ***We do transfers to them, they do not transfer funds to

WTF is wrong with you people

Hollywood

Yea right

[Casi]

lol yep, Cascade...nothing surprises me anymore at Bookmaker.

HH: depends, i dont mind a rollover at theGreek coz they are a very valuable out.
But i agree, it´s a big rollover for nothing. My guess is they don´t want to be used as a bank or "trade centre"..they are the most respected book out there besides Pinny, and prolly get a lot of b2b transfers.

[LVHerbie]

WSEX is charging $50 to do transfers to Matchbook and there is no reimbursement in commission credits according to chat support at Matchbook...

[durito]

nm

[John Dough]

UPDATE: greek has just informed me, that they are currently freezing/STOPPING all transfers to 5 Dimes, what's going on??

Very strange. According to 5Dimes, they currently only do transfers with Matchbook, BetJM, CRIS, and Jazz.

I wonder why they're still transferring with Jamaica but not Greek.

[robertg]

WSEX is charging $50 to do transfers to Matchbook and there is no reimbursement in commission credits according to chat support at Matchbook...

The crazy thing is matchbook transfers to nearly every book I use for free, and I've never had it take more than 30 minutes. So many things different about WSEX and Matchbook that I can't understand since they have same ownership??? (but i must confess, i just reupped with WSEX even though I said I never would just the other day.) It really is still a valuable out for live wagering and baseball and I can live with $5o transfer fee, at least its quick and painless.

[Santo]

Same ownership is a misnomer I believe, there may be some links at the very top of the chain but day-to-day management and operational control is totally separate as I understood it.

[kmarinouofm]

guys why do a book to book transfer?? just empty the funds into click to pay for free.. open up a new account where you want to play.. get the new bonus .. fund the account with your funds from click to pay...

[RonPaul2008]

It's free...4x rollover is no big deal.

Incoming transfers to any of The Greek family of Books are actually the most expensive. The 4x rollover is worse than Cris' $100 fee IMO.

[d2bets]

guys why do a book to book transfer?? just empty the funds into click to pay for free.. open up a new account where you want to play.. get the new bonus .. fund the account with your funds from click to pay...

And this is easier how?

[RonPaul2008]

How is clicktopay different than neteller?

[HedgeHog]

It's free...4x rollover is no big deal.

A 4x rollover is "free" at a 20 cent Book? Get real. Almost all Books "charge" just a 1x rollover. Books make money on rollovers, and The Greek is just being overly greedy IMO.

[d2bets]

4x is a big deal to some, but not to others. Everyone is different.

[HedgeHog]

The worst part is that The Greek, Bet Jam and Wagerstreet make no mention of the 4x roll until you try to withdraw--not during the transfer itself. Very shady for A+ Books.

[BouncedCheck]

Not sure about Greet or Wagerstreet, but BetJamaica has it clearly listed, all the way down at the bottom of the page...... seems clear enough for me, and it took me less than 30 seconds to find the information..... just click MY ACCOUNT-BANKING - Overview.

Bet Jamaica charges no fees on in coming or out going transfers.
4x rollover requirement for banking withdrawals or must be sent out via book transfer.

http://www.betjm.com/asi/WPBanking.asp

[HedgeHog]

You're correct BC, I see BetJam has finally added the 4x disclaimer. Haven't yet seen it at the Wagerstreet site, but they only transfer to The Greek and BetJam. Even though the transfer is in the family, the 4x roll still applies.

[Stumpage]

While this thread is very informative and interesting, it is also a little disturbing to read that a site with the experience of BetCris (And the entire BetCris "family") apparently still see nothing wrong with transferring funds to Cascade.

Why not add English Sports Betting as well, for those around long enough to recall that degenerate outfit.

[donjuan]

So what's the deal with 5Dimes not xfering with the Greek but doing so with BetJam? Any update on this?

[HedgeHog]

Betphoenix and Matchbook now do transfers with one another. Even better, you can open an account with BP via a transfer from MB--and still get a 15% free play (105 lines bonus program).