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  • scurd8
    SBR Hustler
    • 06-08-09
    • 69

    #1
    Requested a ** payout, now ** investigating?
    Firstly, I've used ** over the years to request payouts from sportsbooks and poker rooms. My latest payout request at a Poker room has been approved and sent for processing. The status has been listed as "in progress" for a week now. I contacted them to find out why I haven't been given my ** instructions within 24-48 hours of it being processed. They told me that the money has been sent to ** but is currently being investigated by ** and they could not tell me when ** would get back to them with an approval or not. I asked the poker room if there was anything I could do to speed this up. Like maybe contact ** to find out whats the problem? They told me this normally happens when someone receives alot of ** transactions, and the only thing to do now is to just wait until they hear back from **. I must admit I do receive maybe 3-4 **'s a month for the past year or so, so I can see myself being flagged by **. My question is though, will ** contact me to ask me about my past ** history? The poker room didn't even give me the details of this current transaction..meaning whos the sender..so if they called me to ask me about the sender..I honestly couldn't tell them anything about them. Not even there name. I asked the poker room for the details of the ** instructions, and they were not able to give it to me. So I feel left in the dark here. Has anyone ever gone through something like this? How long do these investigations last? Also will they(**) contact me? If so, obviously I'm not going to say I'm receiving gambling profits...but what would be a good excuse for the moneys I have received in the past?

    Sorry for the long post.

    Cliffs
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    ** is investigating me for receiving too much money over the year. Looking for advice. Will they contact me? What do I say?
  • BChrisB
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-19-10
    • 709

    #2
    Tell them you do a lot of selling on ebay and other online auctions, and due to past experience you only accept ** and/or bank transfer from certain counties due to the amount of fraud from certain areas in the world. If they ask you sender info, tell them you have to go into your records and check because your not at your computer right now.

    There's hundreds of legitimate excuses.
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    • chase hardy
      SBR MVP
      • 01-07-10
      • 1324

      #3
      you'll get it man. Dont worry! GL
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      • kmarinouofm
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-26-09
        • 8437

        #4
        to be honest most likely they are just going to ban you.. they won't call you.. they won't ask any questions.. they will just decide to stop taking your business.. it happened to me.. i was using it for a ton of books as well as my business to send money to eastern europe.. i sent well over 6 figures through ** and they axed me..

        nothing bad will happen.. in the future u can still send money..i still send money.. just under 1k .. anything under 1k and your info doesn't matter
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        • CollegePro
          SBR MVP
          • 02-23-09
          • 4006

          #5
          Didn't read the whole thing but my transaction was being investigated before.. I had to go through interviews and myexcuse was that I own business.. they rejected me and they just refund the money back to sender and black list my name
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          • BChrisB
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-19-10
            • 709

            #6
            I remember a few years back around 3am I tried to do an online **, I got rejected online and had to talk to a CS rep to process my request. Well make a long story short, the ** rep said straight out to me, "We are not processing this, because we think its for gambling." So I think they just tag certain request for various reasons.
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            • Bartmeister
              Restricted User
              • 09-10-10
              • 412

              #7
              Is it possible that its the sender being investigated and not you as the receiver?
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              • BChrisB
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-19-10
                • 709

                #8
                Originally posted by Bartmeister
                Is it possible that its the sender being investigated and not you as the receiver?
                This might be the case as well, I guess there's only so many Jose Rodriguez's from Nicaragua.
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                • Eagle1958
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-23-10
                  • 577

                  #9
                  will anyone ever leave gamblers alone?
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                  • Jnas
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 08-26-10
                    • 760

                    #10
                    yea you will probably just be blacklisted. hopefully their are some **'s locations near you for the future
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                    • wtt0315
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-18-07
                      • 8037

                      #11
                      yep it happens with them
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                      • Bulldog-53
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-08-10
                        • 235

                        #12
                        What does ** care if it's for gambling? You know how many people send **'s for drugs, roids etc everyday?
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                        • scurd8
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 06-08-09
                          • 69

                          #13
                          Thanks for your responses guys. Well I just got word from my poker room that ** has canceled the payout and my money was returned to my account. They told me to choose another payout option and I no longer have the ** payout as an option anymore =( ...Never did get contacted by **. Sucks, but I guess its not all that bad. I do have **'s near me for other boooks, but this site in particular doesn't offer ** payout. Also just for reference, this particular cashout was only for $600 and I'm assuming I was infact the one being investigated and not the reciever as I don't have the option anymore.
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                          • ehp6737
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-11-08
                            • 4185

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bulldog-53
                            What does ** care if it's for gambling? You know how many people send **'s for drugs, roids etc everyday?
                            They care because it's illegal to fund an account for the purpose of online gambling. So if they knowingly let you do it than they're just as liable as you are. I hate having to worry about them blacklisting me everytime I send/recv money, but I understand why they do it.
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                            • RonPaul2008
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-08-07
                              • 6741

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ehp6737
                              They care because it's illegal to fund an account for the purpose of online gambling. So if they knowingly let you do it than they're just as liable as you are. I hate having to worry about them blacklisting me everytime I send/recv money, but I understand why they do it.
                              No, he is not liable at all - it's only illegal for U.S. banking institutions and the like to transfer money for offshore gambling - it's not illegal for an individual to send money.
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                              • RickySteve
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-31-06
                                • 3415

                                #16
                                Unless you can provide them copious evidence as to the legitimacy of your transactions, you are done using **. Happens to the best of us. We move on.
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                                • king
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-15-09
                                  • 506

                                  #17
                                  Don't contact **, let it just ride out and see what happens. Everytime I contact ** they always take action as something is going bad. Last time they said to me this person is trying to scam you and I believe it. I was sending money to a book but they are using scare tactics to not send the money.
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                                  • 63890000
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 06-11-10
                                    • 174

                                    #18
                                    hope you get your money this would suck for anyone
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                                    • frankthetank
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 08-29-09
                                      • 652

                                      #19
                                      still can't believe we live in a country that calls itself free but you cannot put your money on a card game or ballgame. If that isnt the definition of being not free, I dont know what it. My money. My decision. Govt' get out of my personal life. When are poeple going to wake up and start to object to the constant attack on our freedom?
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                                      • BChrisB
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-19-10
                                        • 709

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by frankthetank
                                        still can't believe we live in a country that calls itself free but you cannot put your money on a card game or ballgame. If that isnt the definition of being not free, I dont know what it. My money. My decision. Govt' get out of my personal life. When are poeple going to wake up and start to object to the constant attack on our freedom?
                                        It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better !!! I hate to say it, those inches this country has taken has added up way past a mile.
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                                        • ehp6737
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-11-08
                                          • 4185

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                          No, he is not liable at all - it's only illegal for U.S. banking institutions and the like to transfer money for offshore gambling - it's not illegal for an individual to send money.
                                          The point I was making was that a lot of people here think **/** have no right to dictate who can or cant send money as well as dictate where they can send it to because it is their money, which is not the case. I was stating that **/** does have to take precautions on their end because as you just stated......banking institutions and/or transfer services (**/**) CAN be penalized if they dont follow the newest regulations outlined by the UIGEA.


                                          Here is the quote directly from the UIGEA

                                          Obligations of U.S. Financial Institutions
                                          Financial institutions and money transmitting businesses, like **, ("financial transaction providers") are not subject to any liability if they rely on and comply with the regulations adopted by the federal regulators. Financial transaction providers are not liable to a customer for blocking a transaction in accordance with the regulations. Section 5364(d).
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                                          • Jive
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-10-10
                                            • 1405

                                            #22
                                            The imperialist federal government really is out of control. Not just with gambling, but trying to tell us what we can eat, what we can drive, what kind of toys can be in kid's meals... I fully expect all gov't buildings to be painted red before too long. Heck, we already have a whole panel of unconstitutional csars making unaccountable decisions.

                                            In this case, they don't want us gambling because it cuts into their business. Not only is it too easy to evade taxes, but they want you gambling with the gov't as bookie. Look at all the lotteries, off track betting, casinos, riverboats, etc. that are money making machines for the various levels of government.

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                                            • BChrisB
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-19-10
                                              • 709

                                              #23
                                              Not to mention they can molest you at the airport. All in the name of security
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                                              • craigpb
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 06-19-08
                                                • 709

                                                #24
                                                Sucks because you want to have multiple choices. Really wish insta debit was still allowed.
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