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  • Raston56
    SBR Rookie
    • 10-27-10
    • 13

    #1
    Bodog customers BEWARE!
    Hello all,

    I just signed up here with SBR Forum at the suggestion of others due to a problem I am having. I was advised to post a complaint regarding the offshore that I use here at SBR so that others may be made aware of their bad business practices. Unfortunately, the book in this case is Bodog - which I have been a loyal customer of since 2004. I have long used Bodog exclusively as my offshore book, mainly because they appeared to be the largest offshore around, which I falsely believed made them more reputable than others out there. I look forward to continuing to post at SBR in the future, hopefully regarding topics much more pleasant in nature. If my post is in the wrong area of the site, I apologize in advance and ask that it be moved to the appropriate area so that others may be warned accordingly.

    While watching the Phillies/SF game on 10/23/2010 I decided to check out what in-play lines Bodog had available. I decided to take a shot at an “in-game” wager on the Giants +150, risking $500 to win $750 (the max allowable bet). The bet was placed, processed and accepted successfully at 10:42 pm. Subsequently, in the 8th inning, Juan Uribe hit a HR breaking the 2-2 tie and ultimately giving the Giants (and myself) the win.

    However, at 10:56 I received an email from Bodog stating that my bet had been graded as "no action" and the $500 was refunded to my account (14 minutes after my bet was accepted). According to an ESPN chat transcript (which I know is not exactly the best evidence) Uribe hit the go-ahead HR at 10:55 - one minute before Bodog cancelled my bet!

    I have called and spoken with Bodog's customer service representatives, as well as supervisors, and have found the results infuriating. I have been told that THEY mistakenly left the line open too long, and that my bet was cancelled due to this. They never definitively stated that MY bet was late, just that they left the line open too long.

    I believe that my bet was placed prior to the bottom half of the 7th inning (I was following a few NCAA football games so I could be off by a half inning, but I am 100% certain that was before the 8th began). I placed it as the players left the field at the end of the half inning, and my bet was successfully accepted by Bodog no longer than 30 seconds after– well before the game returned from commercial break. I have tried, multiple times, to find out how long Bodog leaves their in-game betting lines open, but have consistently been told "I don't know" by each customer service representative to whom I’ve spoken. Therefore, unless the line was open for 30 seconds, I cannot see how my bet was late.

    I have also tried exhaustingly to have them explain the circumstances as they know them to be. Unfortunately, my complaint falls on the ears of those who are either incompetent or do not care enough to investigate the matter further. I received a third response from Bodog today, and they still refuse to pay- despite the unanimous support I have received from 2 other forums on the matter. Bodog remains consistently ambiguous in their responses and provides me with no specific information regarding my wager; information which I imagine is available at the push of a button.

    Even if the line was mistakenly left open and late bets were accepted, this is no fault of mine and wholly irrelevant to my wager. I believe that they should honor bets placed in accordance to their rules and regulations - which I believe mine to be. Due to their repeated failure to adequately support their decision, I am left to assume that their decision is wholly without justification. Bodog has made it clear that despite my long standing customer relationship with them, they simply do not care about me as a customer. What good is a sports book that doesn’t pay when you win? What exactly is the service that you offer Bodog? None as I see it.

    Bodog customers, please beware!
  • Peep
    SBR MVP
    • 06-23-08
    • 2295

    #2
    Thanks for coming over here with it Raston.

    I didn't know if you would, so I started a thread here on it as well.

    SBR will get to the bottom of it, they have good communication with the Doggies.
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    • Raston56
      SBR Rookie
      • 10-27-10
      • 13

      #3
      Originally posted by Peep
      Thanks for coming over here with it Raston.

      I didn't know if you would, so I started a thread here on it as well.

      SBR will get to the bottom of it, they have good communication with the Doggies.
      I saw that, thanks Peep.
      I really have not been frequenting the message boards for the last year or so, and was pretty in the dark as to what was out there these days. On the bright side, this matter has led me to two new forums that seem to really support their fellow members. Very glad to be here ... just hope it doesn't cost me $750 in the process.

      Raston
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      • castle
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-04-10
        • 344

        #4
        If everything in your post is accurate, you should definitely be payed. That's bodog bullshit for ya'.
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        • chase hardy
          SBR MVP
          • 01-07-10
          • 1324

          #5
          Gl getting your money pal
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          • Thremp
            SBR MVP
            • 07-23-07
            • 2067

            #6
            Bodog live is a borderline scam.
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            • MadTiger
              SBR MVP
              • 04-19-09
              • 2724

              #7
              The one thing about BoDog I won't even try to cosign is their live betting. Pretty, but deadly, like a damn succubus.
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              • Raston56
                SBR Rookie
                • 10-27-10
                • 13

                #8
                Here is a copy of the ticket.


                Oct 23, 2010
                10:42:14 PM
                190470914
                Placed Single #190470914 (Placed by Web)
                Baseball - IN PLAY (Game) Moneyline
                MLB PLAYOFFS - NATIONAL LEAGUE - CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
                (9923) San Francisco Giants +150, Sat@7:55p

                Risked US$ 500.00 to win US$ 750.00


                Oct 23, 2010

                Oct 23, 2010
                10:56:04 PM
                190470914
                Settled Single #190470914 (Cancelled) (Placed by Web)
                Baseball - IN PLAY (Game) Moneyline
                MLB PLAYOFFS - NATIONAL LEAGUE - CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
                (9923) San Francisco Giants +150, Sat@7:55p

                Risked US$ 500.00 to win US$ 750.00
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                • Raston56
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 10-27-10
                  • 13

                  #9
                  I have also been told that there is a formal complaint form that I can submit for review. Does anyone know where I can find this? Thanks in advance.
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                  • THEGREAT30
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 10-04-08
                    • 8970

                    #10
                    it's unfortunate that you use them, I simply think that they are bad business
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                    • THEGREAT30
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-04-08
                      • 8970

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Raston56
                      I have also been told that there is a formal complaint form that I can submit for review. Does anyone know where I can find this? Thanks in advance.


                      Complaint form.

                      I would welcome your 6 points. Just hit the gold button below
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                      • Raston56
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 10-27-10
                        • 13

                        #12
                        I just filed a complaint. Thanks for the link.
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                        • THEGREAT30
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-04-08
                          • 8970

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Raston56
                          I just filed a complaint. Thanks for the link.
                          no problem hope u get your money. I hate to see someone not get paid. Never know when someone was depending on that money for something serious. Good luck but personally I think Bodog is a crap book.
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                          • Raston56
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 10-27-10
                            • 13

                            #14
                            That is becoming apparent.
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                            • oiler
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 06-06-09
                              • 6585

                              #15
                              no doubt they have really gone to shit the last year and i dont care what bodog becky says they are a bullshit book who doesnt give two shits about there customers
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                              • thericker7
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 09-18-10
                                • 340

                                #16
                                Yeah that wasn't right for them to do. I have been using bodog for years and will say that I have never had a problem with the lines or betting.
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                                • RonPaul2008
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-08-07
                                  • 6741

                                  #17
                                  Would be interesting to know what the line was at Pinnacle at that time.
                                  Regardless, they waited 14 minutes to cancel it...right after the Homerun. How convenient!
                                  $100 says they wouldn't have canceled it if the Phillies had won.
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                                  • Raston56
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-27-10
                                    • 13

                                    #18
                                    Is there a way to see if my complaint went through successfully? I was supposed to get a copy emailed to me, but I have not yet received one.
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                                    • Peep
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-23-08
                                      • 2295

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Raston56
                                      Is there a way to see if my complaint went through successfully? I was supposed to get a copy emailed to me, but I have not yet received one.
                                      I don't think so. Keep the thread alive, and if you don't hear anything back from SBR in four or five days, resubmit.

                                      The moderators obviously read the forum as well.
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                                      • LegitBet
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 05-25-10
                                        • 538

                                        #20
                                        I've had problems with them and their live betting in so far as the bet on each at bat feature...i know what happened to you---they left the line up too long, got past posted by some, and then went through and cancelled each one, with a bullshit message 'apologizing' for the inconvenience, instead of calling you an outright past-post cheater...
                                        as far as I'm concerned, live betting at bodog should be both buyer and seller beware...if they screw up and some win on an at bat,, let it be...the juice and their profiling of players tendencies makes it virtually unbeatable.
                                        With delays in television transmissions differing all over the world, they are accepting a certain amount of risk that they cannot always pull the lines down just before the action continues, which is a product of their greed as well, since they want to suck as many bettors in, but cancel wagers when the guy who pulls them down at thier HQ gets distracted and F's up.
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                                        • nli07
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 07-03-06
                                          • 604

                                          #21
                                          hey at the bottom of the 7th inning you say and you got +150? Even if you got the line at the end of the 7th let's say. The line at Pinnacle if I remember correctly was maybe anywhere from +120 to +135. Maybe BoDog left the line open too long? This is a weird situation.
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                                          • Raston56
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 10-27-10
                                            • 13

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nli07
                                            hey at the bottom of the 7th inning you say and you got +150? Even if you got the line at the end of the 7th let's say. The line at Pinnacle if I remember correctly was maybe anywhere from +120 to +135. Maybe BoDog left the line open too long? This is a weird situation.
                                            If that was the case, then couldn't that be fairly easily explained? Each time I hear anything from them the more I am convinced that there is no reason for doing what they did. I spoke with 4 people over there, one who was supposed to be the supervisor, and NONE offered anything to show me my wage was past-post ...

                                            After repeatedly avoiding my questions I feel pretty confident that they have nothing and were just hoping that I would go away.
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                                            • sundin4prez
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-09-10
                                              • 1970

                                              #23
                                              good luck getting your winnings......
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                                              • jcurro
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 08-17-10
                                                • 377

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Raston56
                                                Here is a copy of the ticket.


                                                Oct 23, 2010
                                                10:42:14 PM
                                                Why is not the ticket enough evidence to proof you right? And anyway if they let the line open too long as they claim... That shouldn't be the costumer problem. That should be THEIR problem and fire whoever didn't update the score, but not take your money.

                                                I've read several posts of cases like this. Has anyone heard of a case when the losing bet was cancelled?
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                                                • BodogBecky
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-28-09
                                                  • 579

                                                  #25
                                                  Raston56, can you please PM me your account number? I will speak directly with a senior CS manager so I can get the facts for you.

                                                  Thanks,
                                                  Becky
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                                                  • SBR Lou
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-02-07
                                                    • 37863

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Raston56
                                                    Is there a way to see if my complaint went through successfully? I was supposed to get a copy emailed to me, but I have not yet received one.
                                                    Originally posted by Peep
                                                    I don't think so. Keep the thread alive, and if you don't hear anything back from SBR in four or five days, resubmit. The moderators obviously read the forum as well.
                                                    Raston,

                                                    Looking at the e-mail chain I can see that Justin7 followed up with you within a day of your complaint being submitted. Please check your spam box if you don't see his e-mail.
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                                                    • Raston56
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 10-27-10
                                                      • 13

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Lou
                                                      Raston,

                                                      Looking at the e-mail chain I can see that Justin7 followed up with you within a day of your complaint being submitted. Please check your spam box if you don't see his e-mail.
                                                      Lou,

                                                      I have been contacted by Justin7. Apparently I mis-typed my email address on the complaint form.
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                                                      • harlee71
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 12-02-09
                                                        • 7202

                                                        #28
                                                        At Bodog I have had dozens of winning live bets cancelled for one thing or another, but I have never had 1 not 1 losing bet cancelled for any reason.

                                                        I stopped playing there over a year ago for this reason. It is a con-game!
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                                                        • Raston56
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 10-27-10
                                                          • 13

                                                          #29
                                                          Regardless of the outcome, this has been the worst customer service experience that I have ever had. How can a company allow itself to be ran like this? Leaving customers to resort to the assistance of a 3rd party to get answers that could not be had from the source of the problem is absolutely disgraceful. Rather than resolve this in my initial call, they have allowed this to continue now for 5 days with zero assistance or explanation to date. Now instead of having one disgruntled customer, my complaint has been viewed by nearly 3,000 people! Not much of an emphasis on damage control at the Dogger I suppose. Thank god Bodog doesn't run BP - their response to the gulf oil spill would have been "f**k the environmental ... you lose fish!"
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                                                          • frankthetank
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-29-09
                                                            • 652

                                                            #30
                                                            man, I dont do live betting only for this reason. all these books have the capability and motivation to screw you out fo your wins and happily collect on your losses. The live betting gives them that much more grey area from which to operate (and scam). PS - shame on bodog.
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                                                            • soxwin1917
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-09-08
                                                              • 1188

                                                              #31
                                                              I'll always defend Bodog because they've done right by me, but it seems like the live betting is creating a lot of problems. From the information in this thread, the OP deserves to be paid.
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                                                              • sideloaded
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-21-10
                                                                • 7561

                                                                #32
                                                                So did this ever get fixed?
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                                                                • The Bishop
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 08-21-09
                                                                  • 311

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Bodog is decent for most things but I would never touch their live lines, it's reasonably well known that they angle shoot like this.
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                                                                  • BodogBecky
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-28-09
                                                                    • 579

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I have spoken directly with the Head of Trading who will personally be contacting Raston56 today (Friday) and the $750 should already be credited to his account.

                                                                    Thanks,
                                                                    Becky
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                                                                    • Raston56
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 10-27-10
                                                                      • 13

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I woke up today to an email from the Head of Training and the money credited to my account. Thanks to SBR and its members for providing an outlet where complaints can be heard and disputes can be resolved. I do not think that I would have gotten my money without this great site. I would also like to thank BodogBecky since within hours of giving her my account number, the matter was resolved.

                                                                      Thank you to all that have helped.

                                                                      -Raston
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